The Tropical Fruit Forum

 As mentioned if left alone they will all grow big, look at some of the old school varieties that have been planted years ago...they are huge. 20' apart is a good spacing for mangos or citrus, if you have the space. 16'  minimum for back yards with limited space. I believe Fruitful Trees has a video on this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpEcuzGBM1E, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpEcuzGBM1E

 What a nice tasting event Vincent thanks for hosting it and having it inside was a bonus. We enjoyed tasting mangos, lychee and grapes.  It was nice to meet you and others as well and share stories and knowledge with one another. Bolt...what can I say except what a mango...wow, Bolt is the bomb! I will be planting our Orange essence tree soon. Thanks again and thanks for sharing your knowledge of grafting.   

  Thank you for the responses, maybe I will just ignore the leaf miners, from what I understand is that it is just aesthetic and does no long term damage. I wonder is moringa leaf extract sprayed on leaves will work?(we have plenty on the property) I have just recently heard of using it as a pest deterrent with no negative long term effects. I need to fertilize more often, I have only been doing it every three months, I will try every other month. All of our citrus trees are on raised berms that are about 50+' long, with a nice top dressing of composted organic matter, we had a dump truck full delivered to top dress the berms with decomposed wood  chips for a cover, all wood chips are away from the trunks.
 

 If you can pick up a few ST Maui's trees I would be happy to purchase one from you at the event.

I am trying it right now in a variety of plants (w/ control groups), 2 weeks in - nothing noticeable.

I am in So Cal and winding clockwise. Am I doing it wrong?

 Keep us posted on the results. I heard that if you live above the equator to wrap your wire clockwise and below the equator counter clockwise and to place the coils on the south side of your plants. 

Bolt mango vs Lemon Zest taste test!! Bolt and Lemon zest fresh head-to-head taste comparison at the event!

https://www.facebook.com/100021853481147/videos/624966262905566/

 Deal.

I'm interested, Vincent. What do I need to do to attend? I'm looking for an Orange Sherbet as well but looking for a true 7 gal size.

 Diluted orange oil works well. I heat up a solution of warm water mix in orange oil and pour on the mound and have had no issues with any of the trees we pour this solution by.

  Nice post, Kaz. I am looking forward receiving my order.

cotter pin, I'm surprised to hear you are growing the Noir of Spain from seeds. You must have a lot of patience to try to grow out the seeds and wait for it to fruit.

Isn't it much easier to just graft a cutting, then you will have fruits in 2 years. How old is your white pakistan and red himalayan tree/plant? If your everbearing tree is large enough you should graft a few white pakistan and red himalayan scionwood that was cut from a fruiting tree. If you don't know if your trees have fruited before, send me a PM and I have large fruiting white pakistan and red himalayan trees and I will give you a good deal for some cuttings.

 When I purchased the seeds at a seed exchange, I was thinking 5 years to fruit, but the more I read into them, I now know they they may take up to 10 years. They are still too small to use as a scion/bud wood for grafting at this point. I purchased the red Pakistan about a year ago it was about 5' tall in a 3 gallon pot and put it into the ground right after I purchased it and it is about 8-9' tall now. And, the white Pakistani and Tice I just purchased and put into the ground about 3 months ago. I have actually eaten fruits of of the Tice, only a few... but it's pushing fruits.
  I do not know much about grafting mulberries at this point, but if I need some cuttings I will defiantly be in touch with you. Those Thai Dwarf's are off the chain crazy with production! Looking good! 

 I have 10 Noir of Spain (M. Nigra)  that I started from seed last year they are currently in 3 gallon pots. They seem to be slow growing, they get watered often and I keep them in my pool area because when they were under my oak tree seems the squirrels and rabbits would just bite the trunk in half. I'm hoping to get fruits eventually. The mix I used to pot them in is 50% compost with biochar and 50% peat moss with a little  bit of perlite. My everbearing cuttings have far surpassed the M. Nigra as they are already in the ground and fruiting.
 I do have a Tice we recently purchased and am hoping to get fruits on it soon and still waiting on our white and red Pakistani's to fruit.   

 On Saturday, here in Charlotte County, we were below freezing, possibly on Sunday night as well. Trees look like they were torched, we covered them and we will see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

 I'm in, I am marking it my calendar.