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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse recommendations.
« on: August 08, 2020, 02:41:38 PM »
Oh boy. You are so right. As I look at hoop house prices, at least kits, the prices get significantly lower per square foot with larger structures. Very hard to predict what size I might want in a couple of years. Also I can envision a larger structure becoming my green man cave over the winter. I do have space to make a house way bigger than I think I need. Oh the temptation😈

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse recommendations.
« on: August 08, 2020, 12:51:31 PM »
Thanks Mark. Your list provides a tremendous amount of information.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse recommendations.
« on: August 07, 2020, 08:31:35 PM »
Beautiful greenhouse Brian. I agree that a more open design with
Less costly materials is called for in my climate. Not sure I would use any active heating In winter. We have little if any frost at my location. In winter I just want to shelter tender seedlings and plants that get root rot with prolonged cool wet days. The only reason for active heating would be if I try to grow some ultra tropicals. Summertime will probably call for fans and vents even with sides up. Depending on dimensions I might put shade cloth over a portion of the house to shelter seedlings from full sun. Lots of exciting possibilities.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse recommendations.
« on: August 07, 2020, 05:22:37 PM »
I was thinking decomposed granite or pea gravel for the floor. If dirt works just as well great. Why spend more?

Would like to visit you and get more ideas. Also pick up that recently grafted Pura Vida if it is far enough along.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse recommendations.
« on: August 07, 2020, 04:41:23 PM »
I liked your hoop house a lot. Do you close it up to retain humidity during Santa Ana winds?

Building myself would be ideal in terms of cost and pride of ownership.  Not sure yet if I could take on this project myself. Age(63) and limited construction skill set might take this project out of my comfort zone. At very least I would have someone else make a level pad, and need a couple of buddies to help with particularly heavy components. I will price out the scenarios and continue to educate myself before making a decision but would like to have the greenhouse up for this winter. One of the first things I will do after the house is built is wait for you to have your variety Pack pineapple slip deals. Have had only limited success growing pineapples outdoors.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse recommendations.
« on: August 07, 2020, 03:24:40 PM »
That is definitely in the range I am looking for. What do you do for cooling? I really really really hate squirrels too.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Greenhouse recommendations.
« on: August 07, 2020, 12:56:16 PM »
My property in Southern California would benefit greatly From a greenhouse if I am going to bring my orchard to the next level. I have built and used an 8 x 12 foot double walled Polycarbonate greenhouse in the past. That would be too small for my anticipated needs. I am thinking about a house with 300 to 1000 square feet. Seeing what works for our many members in similar climates would help a lot. I am open to almost any design that is not a true eyesore. Could go the DIY route to save $$ but also open to having a specialty company install. I do not have a set price limit but would get emotional as costs topped $25,000. Don,t have to worry about getting approval from neighbors. Have read a fair amount and suspect a hoop house design with really good ventilation will give the best bang for my buck. All input appreciated.

Really only you after tasting all 3 can make that call. I suspect Booth would be the loser for most people but all three are good. Booth is less sweet, has a less intense flavor and more seeds.

Thanks for the seeds FLNative. It was a pleasant surprise getting a nice red hybrid fruit to sample. It was yummy.


Seeds arrived well cleaned and fresh. Thanks for the extras. Fingers crossed for good germination and favorable fruit characteristics eventually.


Citrus General Discussion / Gotta hate and love Home Depot.
« on: August 03, 2020, 07:07:47 PM »
Home Depot never ceases to amaze and infuriate me. Went today specifically for peat moss and vermiculite. Out of both. Walked all over the garden area hoping to find a misplaced bag or 2 since I did not want to go to Lowe’s. Wouldn’t you know it saw a 15 gallon standard color finger lime holding quite a few fruit. 1” trunk and at least 6’ tall. $99. Got it. Went to load her up and found 15 mature ripe finger limes in the container. Just one tree mixed with general citrus. Will plant her tomorrow. The limes have mature seeds. Are they worth germinating?

I am planning to start about 100 Sabara seeds with the hope of having at least 50 graftable rootstocks in a year or 2. Sabara is common so I am hoping to get seeds for under a dollar each. One kind individual has offered to provide seed in a month or two when they have fruit. To be honest we did not discuss price. I would probably start more than 100 to ensure my 50 rootstocks if you have some to sell. Also it might be good to have “Sabara” from more than one source. There may be enough variation among Seeds from different mother plans that some make for great rootstock and others don,t.

Bump. Reread my post and realized that I am asking for something for nothing. OK I am not assuming people will send me seeds for free. Anyone with a very productive Sabara that is not Already selling their seeds for over $1 each already be interested in selling me seeds for my project. Obviously it does not need to be all at once or from just one individual.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pura Vida Avocado in S. Florida
« on: August 01, 2020, 05:30:55 PM »
Holly guacamole. Sign me up for one of those Brad. Any word on how it tastes? Definitely a secondary consideration.😂

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba rootstocks???
« on: July 31, 2020, 04:58:45 PM »
Apparently of the varieties we commonly have, Sabara does better tolerating less than ideal PH and salinity. It also is less likely to develop micronutrient issues or so I have read. Which varieties graft well to Sabara? We probably need to talk to Adam at flyingfox and/or do a search of agricultural research into jaboticabas in Brazil etc..

I want to start a bunch of Sabara jaboticaba seedlings for grafting experiments as they get big enough a couple of years from now. My aim is to graft mature scion wood from varieties that do not do well in the ground in SoCal on their own roots to Sabara stock.  Anyone who is now enjoying sabara fruits and tossing the seeds please consider mailing them to me so I can learn to graft. Donators will be first in line for grafted plants at very reasonable cost if I have some success. Thanks in advance for your consideration.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: July 30, 2020, 04:14:18 PM »
Hi. My name is Mike. Really loving this website. I have dabbled in subtropical and tropical fruits for 30 years while working as a physician. As part of my transition to retirement,(not quite there yet) I moved to a property in San Diego county and have started a new orchard. So far have the following in the ground, all planted since last October:

Cherimoya--about 10 varieties.
Atemoya 2 varieties.
Ilama 2 varieties.
Pecan 2 varieties.
Almond 2 varieties.
Apples about 6 varieties.
Approximately 20 stonefruit including apricots, peaches, plums nectarines, pluots.
2 Jujubes.
6 Avocado varieties.
2 pomegranits.
6 fig trees.
1 chestnut.
Ceylon gooseberry.
4 different Mulberries.
Sabara and Paulista Jaboticaba.
Hap ip and Kaimana lychee.
1 finger lime.
1 each washinton navel orange, Persian sweet lemon, Valencia orange, Minneola tangelo, and clementine tangerine.
2 sapodilla,
Purple passiaon fruit.
3 varieties of pink and red dragonfruit.
2 papaya varieties.

I am sure I missed a few. Also have a large vegetable garden. Want to put in a nice size greenhouse for seedlings and ultratropicals within the year. I am really enjoying my transition and look forward to learning a lot from forum members. Life is much easier when you can learn from other peoples experiences.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrel repellent?
« on: July 30, 2020, 01:46:50 PM »
Added benefit it makes a good stud finder in my house when it is hot outside.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrel repellent?
« on: July 27, 2020, 12:14:22 PM »
Ordered a thermal night scope to try to get an edge--NOT JOKING. I will sleep better if I can rid my orchard of destructive critters before bedtime. If I begin to feel mercy I will think about my two devastated almond trees. They look like Brad put a dozen shotgun blasts through each of them >:(

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrel repellent?
« on: July 26, 2020, 08:18:20 PM »
Brad that sounds so satisfying. Currently I am using a .22 air rifle. I hate squirrels, rats and gophers. Squirrels the worst. Hope you don,t use that method in your greenhouse.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ground squirrels
« on: July 26, 2020, 07:02:18 PM »
I always wear a cup when I hunt. :P

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ground squirrels
« on: July 26, 2020, 03:34:35 PM »
Wow I never knew ground squirrels could be so destructive. Have started thinning them out with an air rifle. Any other suggestions?

Sent you a PM.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Red Pulp Finger Limes for sale
« on: July 21, 2020, 02:44:22 PM »
Yes I would like one. Sent a PM.

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