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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Plants for sale
« on: March 21, 2023, 07:32:01 PM »
Sent PM. Great variety Lance, thank you

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Inga spectabilis seeds
« on: March 21, 2023, 01:15:09 PM »
^and of course, HapaJoe the legend is always a recommendation.

In fact, Joe, I would be glad to get some spectabilis fruit from you next month too!

I would also recommend Kohala Longan, best variety to grow in the states IMO.

I have a stunted aka "dwarf" (but growing) specimen I was keeping for myself in a 3-Gal, although I am open to trade. It would be good to keep potted if you try, and take it indoors for late fall/winter, cause I don't believe it will survive anything less than 9a.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Inga spectabilis seeds
« on: March 21, 2023, 12:49:57 PM »
Hey sytanta,

Good luck with your search! It was a bit difficult for me to find the Spectabilis and Jinicuil for awhile, but I purchased a few goods seeds off MauiSeedCompany on etsy. Great germination rate, would suggest inquiring about a mass order, they have edulis as well.
Could also try reaching out to palologrower on the forum, he has sold me inga seeds in the past I believe.

Hey everyone!

Wanted to jump in on the trend of posting pictures with all this good weather we've been having. I was unfamiliar with Cecropia peltata until I stumbled upon one at the WPB Rare Fruit Council plant sale last year. Hope to find another at the same sale this weekend.

The pictures show the development of the "gummy worm" fruit. I have a strong belief that the fruits will be aborted since the plant is very young, but im hopeful to try one.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or advice on how to make my Cecropia as happy and strong as possible, limited useful information online. PS - I have ONLY a female tree. I am aware of the invasive potential when males are brought into the mix (plus they dont sell males).



@gnappi has a beautiful, mature, fruiting Fairchild #2. From my experience eating his fruit, theyre incredible and I definitely recommend!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Macro Fruitography and Zoom Shots
« on: March 18, 2023, 09:45:53 PM »
Phenomenal photos guys, thanks for sharing  :D


If youre not already in the FB groups "North American Fruit Explorers - NAFEX" and "North American Scion Exchange", I suggest joining. Theres tons of posts throughout the week but not long ago saw some red-fleshed scions for sale, as well as other rare and misc. varities. Probably plenty more groups to joing from there. Best of luck.

I'd love this one too, great price but no space.
If theres anything else you may be looking to trade for Mike and don't get any takers, let me know!


Really awesome of you to share these cuttings with the community, along with your awesome challenge. People charge more than they should for these online (etsy/ebay etc.)
I would take some of the cuttings if I had the space, but my P. Quad vine is thick and boomin', leaves no space for others atm.

Very glad to see interest in this species and genus growing as well,

I got 25 Kadsura longipedunculata seeds from tradewindsfruit that will go into germination now.

Would love to get in line for some of those hybrids Ted, and thanks again for joining!

Any update elouicious? I also got a bunch from trade winds months ago with no luck.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: March 12, 2023, 04:13:02 PM »
Al, I'll let you know the status in 6 months since I'm now grafting most of mine on M Pennsylvania.

Also interested in this. Have some M. pensylvanica that will be ready for grafting within the year.

^I was that someone. I had phenomenal germination rates, and would definitely advise getting them from Ryan. Unfortunately, I was gone for a weekend and they all burnt to a crisp. Keep that in mind, they are definitely more sun-sensitive at this stage than I thought.

They were probably 2x the size of what Pinkturtle just posted. Roots were about 3x the length of the shoot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hi ask a question
« on: March 10, 2023, 11:08:16 PM »
I would not recommend using rarepalmseeds. Expensive all around and they could be too old to be viable.

I saw that Hapa Joe and Anderson Tropicals just updated their inventories on the buy/sell/trade thread of the forum with plenty of Duguetia species, I would inquire about international shipping.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: DMOR 38 mulberry - what is it?
« on: March 10, 2023, 06:22:57 PM »
You've got yourself a nice shahtoot mulberry (Morus macroura).

USDA-ARS Germplasm data below (although its not very informative):

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mamey sapote and canistel
« on: March 09, 2023, 06:54:53 PM »
Both should be fine for zone 10a, just keep in mind they like sun (8+ hrs) and need space from other trees.
Canistel is more cold-sensitive than mameys, not that I expect it to be an issue, but this past winter's cold snap did some damage on my more sensitive plants.

Brite Leaf
Pepes Fruit Trees On Line Nursery
Backyard Citrus Trees
Via Citrus
Everglades Farm
Sow Exotic
Florida Nursery Mart (Delivery to Broward, Dade, and Palm Beach Counties)

This is not an endorsement of any of these nurseries, you should do your own research. There are many more throughout the state, but they are either wholesale sellers or do not offer delivery/shipping.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amla root system?
« on: March 09, 2023, 11:59:31 AM »
Honestly I would suggest calling your local Building/Engineering/Env. Health department and requesting that info, whoever regulates that for you there. Its all public information and should guide your decision.
Unfortunately, there is no national standard for these types of systems (To my knowledge), so I cant really be more helpful. When I worked in Env. Health in IL, septic and city sewer diagrams I reviewed varied in depth, material, size, etc. and it all depends on site condition factors such as soil permeability, soil composition, distance to groundwater, slope, flood hazard, etc. Of course, budget plays a role in that as well.

Papaya would probably be a decent shallow rooted option, or its relatives. But yeah regarding citrus, I think it just depends whats in the ground and how deep it is. I want to assume youre fine for a city line, but if problems come in the future dont blame me! lol.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amla root system?
« on: March 08, 2023, 12:58:16 PM »
Amla has a fat taproot, so as long as you preserve that im sure the plants will be healthy. Its pretty hardy for poor growing conditions.

When you say sewer line, is it a city sewer line or a septic field line? if city, is it a larger sewer line or the one connected to your home? The city line materials, especially modern ones, are generally sturdy enough that most plants wont be an issue. Depending on the material of the line (if known) and soil conditions, citrus planted nearby may be fine, perhaps consider a cherry as they are shallow-rooted.

If youre talking septic, based on my own experience and understanding from working in that field, dont plant near it or on it. In addition to many potential health risks, the costs to repair/replace septic systems is bonkers.

Finally, my personal suggestion for something with shallow roots in your zone would be either Yauopon holly (Ilex vomitoria), beautiful plant with leaves that can be prepared for a great tea, or Southern Bayberry (Myrica cerifera), in addition to smelling good, would be awesome to graft some Yangmei in the next few years as scions become more readily available.

Hey all!

More pawpaw seedlings here than I need. Open to trade or sale, shoot me an offer; skip the year-long cold stratification!
Will send them out bareroot.
These have long tap roots and would be best in a deep pot or in the ground, will likely be ready to graft next year. Seeds came from an unnamed variety of a private grower on the East coast, delicious fat and juicy fruit.

I would prefer to do a local trade/sale (Southeast FL), as these are great host plants for zebra swallowtail butterflies and we need to develop a zone 9+ tolerant pawpaw (my current undertaking).

Let me know!
- Dan

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Durio graveolens
« on: March 07, 2023, 08:50:07 PM »

Thank you nattyfroootz for the offer! Website is in the bookmark bar  ;D if this trade I have going right now doesnt come through, I'll make the purchase

I appreciate everyones info. I am one of those people that finds a lot of the varieties of papaya to be pukey. I always advocate for RS Papaya though, that fella slaps.

It makes just about the best fruit bong there ever was though.

regardless of taste, now im sold! lol

Hey all!

Haven't had the best luck starting papaya relatives from seed, hoping to acquire a decent-sized cutting from a Babaco Papaya, preferably a known hermaphrodite. Let me know if you've got it and what you may be looking for in exchange, thanks!

I am aware a seller has this specific item on etsy, but im not looking to drop $60 on a cutting just yet :) seems people on the forum have a lot to say about that seller as well....

Appreciate the info Oolie, painfully slow and compact is what I was looking for in this case. They will be gifts to MIL in suburbs north of Atlanta.
With that, its on me to acquire them and transport, which is why I was hoping to get them closer to here and not have to traverse ATL nurseries for a desirable (and affordable) specimen.

Thank you Ryan! Ill let you know if I don't find anything.

I think both varieties are rare to see this far south since they're 'cold hardy', and theres just better specimens for the area. I am preparing the palm(s) to make their way to Atlanta, eventually.

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