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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which mexican avocado tastes most like a California Hass?
« on: March 12, 2018, 12:40:45 PM »
Stuart is a good upright, smaller size tree with excellet fruit.  8 to 9 months to go from flower to ripe fruit.  They are small fruits though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: March 12, 2018, 12:34:39 PM »
I acquired a bunch of free pots from a landscaper and am going to put different DF cuttigs in them along a welded wire fence.  I have a neumatic paint sprayer and already did 16 pots.  Going to put a quick coat on the fence rails.  Otherwise the rails and the pots get super hot in summer. 

I am thinking 1 cutting per 15gal pot.  1 pot every 3ft.  Anything special you guys would do with the materials on hand to make it better?  I have a bunch of old trex 2x2s laying around also. 

For soil, I am going to use decomposed granite local soil mixed with compost and steer manure. 

Input on anything?  Changes?








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is White Sapote really *this* productive?
« on: March 10, 2018, 07:25:02 PM »
My buddy has one thats very old and it makes loads of fruits.  He never waters it and its up on a hill.  The fruit falls everywhere and makes a mess.  The tree would surely produce even more if he watered it occasionally.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surinam cherry leaves turning red.
« on: March 09, 2018, 02:02:27 PM »
Nice area, I always look at those houses along thet 52 and think how nice it looks up on that hill.  Is your yard looking north or south?

I wasn't trying to tell you your zone was incorrect or anything, I just find it interesting how everyone has different weather that doesnt always go according to the zones.  I think the zone systems are not that accurate in san diego because of all the hills and valleys.  The zone map itself it pretty interesting to look at also. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surinam cherry leaves turning red.
« on: March 09, 2018, 01:52:17 PM »
What part of San Diego do you live in?  I am just curious because your profile says 10B.  I think my house is offically 9B but we didn't get any frost.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surinam cherry leaves turning red.
« on: March 09, 2018, 12:18:05 PM »
Quote from: huertasurbanas on March 09, 2018, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: BonsaiBeast on March 09, 2018, 12:31:33 AM
We recently had some cold nights. Is the red tinge of the leaves due to some sort of cold shock?

Yes, new leaves should be red too! it is a sign of a healthy plant. They do that to protect themselves from freezing, they can resist -7º C

My new flushes are red, the rest of the plant is dark green.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hoop house
« on: March 08, 2018, 06:04:23 PM »
I have a lot of glyphosate.  The power company pays for it so I will maintain a fire break for them.

I have 2 kinds.  41% and 41% with premerchent (total control).

I am thinking remove everything and nail it with the nuclear stuff and then move back in.

Its more pain for me mark because I have lots of small propogation pots crammed together.  I have to move them all out to spray or risk getting on all the plants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hoop house
« on: March 08, 2018, 01:37:12 PM »
I have a lot of weeds in the hoop house.  Big surprise I know.  What do you guys think about spraying with a pre emerchant?  I hate to spray chemicals in there but I wonder if I kill the weeds and sterilize it with pre emerchent that weeds will stay gone?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mail-order mishap, do I need to prune the big branch?
« on: March 07, 2018, 12:00:33 AM »
I would get a longer stake so that you can strap the branch onto it and pull it upwards like mentioned. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: North-facing hillsides
« on: March 02, 2018, 10:34:25 AM »
Seems like avocado is doing the worse over at the neighbors house.  They are on a really steep hill too by the way.  With lots of shade trees and a house above the grove.  So with the exception of things that have to hang for 14+ months on the tree, you would most likely not have much issue.

That is assuming you don't have anything at the top of your hill to the south, it should be OK.  During summer, the hill will get plenty of sun.

I realized now you are further north so that may have impact on your trees also.  Now is a good time of year to go observe the hill and see how much shade its getting. 

Plant tall trees at the bottom (north end) of hill.  A little planning will go a long way.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I confess I am a grating addict - need 12 step program
« on: March 02, 2018, 12:23:54 AM »
Quote from: Th3_BrazilianShark on March 01, 2018, 07:10:11 PM
I am in the same boat. I grafted my cherimoya with so many different scions past week and I want more! So far I have:
Anona Rosada
Genova Red
Cumbe
Pierce
El Bumpo
La Habra Gold
Randhir
Jumbo AP
Giant Atis
Arka Sahan


Wow thats a lot of grafting.  Please keep an update of how it goes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: North-facing hillsides
« on: March 01, 2018, 01:19:00 PM »
My neighbor has a lot of trees on a north hill.  They get ok production from some stuff.  But other plants seem to just not produce.  Its probably partially the north hill and partially how they care for their trees.  Seems like they need more mulch and fertilizer and watering setup is questionable.

I posted some photos of their jungle here:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=24623.0

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best of the New Zill Mangos
« on: March 01, 2018, 11:06:50 AM »
Quote from: wslau on March 01, 2018, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: spaugh on March 01, 2018, 12:57:12 AM
Quote from: wslau on February 28, 2018, 11:54:48 PM
I tried one home grown orange essence and it had the lightest hint of orange.  Its a beautiful colored fruit though.  I prefer the stronger orange flavor in lemon zest.  My OE tree was in a pot and was very young, so maybe not a fair comparison.

Hi I see your posts of mango trees shipped from florida.  I was thinking about trying out the mail order tree thing.  Is there a place tou recommend to order from?  I only know of top teopicals and plantogram.  Is there others?  Anyone to avoid? 

Thanks!
Brad Spaugh

Will send you PM.

Thanks, I meant to PM you and ended up posting here on accident.  (Cell phone browsing).

I appreciate your message.  May try ordering some. 

Too bad no one grows these locally for sale.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best of the New Zill Mangos
« on: March 01, 2018, 12:57:12 AM »
Quote from: wslau on February 28, 2018, 11:54:48 PM
I tried one home grown orange essence and it had the lightest hint of orange.  Its a beautiful colored fruit though.  I prefer the stronger orange flavor in lemon zest.  My OE tree was in a pot and was very young, so maybe not a fair comparison.

Hi I see your posts of mango trees shipped from florida.  I was thinking about trying out the mail order tree thing.  Is there a place tou recommend to order from?  I only know of top teopicals and plantogram.  Is there others?  Anyone to avoid? 

Thanks!
Brad Spaugh

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grumichima and Pitomba flowering
« on: February 28, 2018, 03:04:34 PM »
Quote from: marklee on February 28, 2018, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: greenbean88 on February 27, 2018, 10:58:06 PM
I have a section of the yard that I'm planting different types of berries and small fruits and these sound really cool. Is anyone growing these in southern California? Are these large trees or more bushy shrubs? Are there any stand out cultivars that have superior taste?
I have 3 different pitomaba varieties growing in south San Diego, they taste kind of like an apricot. Easy plant to grow, just water good when it is flowering.

Are they in full sun?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone familiar with Florida Grande peach?
« on: February 23, 2018, 07:25:33 PM »
I dont think peaches self thin, at least mine dont.  You need to thin when they are marble sized, do not wait until they get larger.  You want to have 1 fruit per foot or so.  You may have to remove 75% or more.  Remove the fruits that are bad shape, shcratched etc and remove from the ends of branches so that the remaining fruit is putting less stress on the branches.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Frost of the year
« on: February 23, 2018, 04:38:04 PM »
Just got a frost advisory on my cell phone for tonight from my weather app.  Looks like at least another week or so of frosty nights. 

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: What are some lesser-known varieties of stonefruit worth having?
« on: February 22, 2018, 01:23:07 PM »
Check out this site, try searching for under 400 hrs of chill.  There are lots of taste test winners.  The idea is to get several types that ripen at different times.

http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/quick-screen/low-chill-fruit-varieties

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: pitless avocado
« on: February 21, 2018, 11:50:47 AM »
That one looks photo shop but there is a natural occuring "cuke avocado" that just doesnt get polinated properly and no seed forms.  Its a real thing.  Google cuke avocado.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rooting cherimoya and atemoya using rooting hormones?
« on: February 21, 2018, 11:43:54 AM »
Mark, they sell a root gel cup thing at the nursery.  You could order online.  They work really well.  Cuttings dont dry out or rot.  Simon turned me onto those and I have a few plants rooted that I was having trouble with in other medium and rooting powder.  Ahve not tried cherimoya but if anything will work this is it.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Frost of the year
« on: February 20, 2018, 11:08:35 PM »
Quote from: Samu on February 20, 2018, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: spaugh on February 20, 2018, 08:17:12 PM

Samu are your stone fruit flowering and flushing now?  I have some trees with big fruits already and others are completely dormant and bare.  Im hoping this week of cold will wake them up.

Yes, I noticed a couple of stone fruit trees started pushing nubs and even few flowers popping sporadically; but no big fruits like yours, Spaugh! (Interesting, how could that be ? Please talk about it at the Temperate Fruit section).
Yeah, this cold nights are good to our stone fruit trees that may require a certain minimum chilling hours. (But unfortunately is the opposite effect to our Tropicals...  :( )

The florida prince peach already has golf balls all over it.  It is always really early to ripen. 

No action on some of the others.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Frost of the year
« on: February 20, 2018, 08:17:12 PM »
Quote from: Samu on February 20, 2018, 03:03:59 PM
Only 37F here last night, 13 Miles inland. All soursop seedlings are inside already; annona scions still under wraps; budding mango scion still looks good; stone fruit trees are liking this...yes, hope yours are ok too!

Samu are your stone fruit flowering and flushing now?  I have some trees with big fruits already and others are completely dormant and bare.  Im hoping this week of cold will wake them up. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hoop house
« on: February 20, 2018, 02:44:51 PM »
If you run it non stop it will be so foggy you will not be able to see in there.  And you will have water on everything. Trust me on this you will need to get a humidistat to throttle it back. 

This is the one I use and it keeps the humidity at 40%

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01FQKXRXA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1519155758&sr=1-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=humidistat&dpPl=1&dpID=41p3jLw61%2BL&ref=plSrch

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hoop house
« on: February 20, 2018, 12:43:47 PM »
Mark, you could always add more nozzles.  I think a 1/2 gpm pump will work for you.

And you can get a humidistat like I got and it will only run a fraction of the time. 

It should use way less than you calculated, that wold be if you ran it non stop all day.  Only on the very hottest days will it be running a lot.  My pump cycles on and off like 100 times a day.  It kicks on for 30 seconds and is off again for 5 miutes or so.  Same with my venting, it is on a thermostat and opens and closes automatically and only runs part time.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Frost of the year
« on: February 20, 2018, 10:55:47 AM »
35 and no frost up on the mountain.

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