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Francis_Eric:
Oh they say

Europe tomato had no Disease

After 100 years the dieseas adapted

I cannot remember everything I read
guess you could say some guy claims this to be the case 
(named Francis Eric , and it is how it is )

 I have no proof

Francis_Eric:

--- Quote from: digigarden on June 01, 2022, 03:13:56 PM ---
Hi, my experience with tomatoes is just from home gardening and internet websites...i knew tomatoes were from the americas but
wasn't sure if they came from mexico or south america but they obviously spread all over in time.I do agree with that link
information even though i will tell you that the problem in "ultra tropical" areas is not only the diseases which are rampant.
However i must tell you in my experience that tomatoes don't simply die to disease right away(unless it's the rainy season
and it rains too much on them non stop)...they may grow very wbut then won't fruit.
for things like tomatoes and veggies in general but also there's a problem for flowering and producing fruit and this is not
only tomatoes but also peppers and even some eggplant varieties. However the smaller ones such as cherry type tomatoes or hot
peppers do really really well over here. It's probably tropical adaptation from those ancient wild species as the article says.
You can also grow things like cubanelle peppers and those italian type peppers over here...but bell peppers have problems
fruiting at all(at sea level)...you know there's a type of tomato called gajilete https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ExMREiP1qI
that also produces well in puerto rico that came from those italian type of tomatoes, that must be that those can flower well
without tropical winter or mountain tropical weather...that's the thing that in mid to high elevations any tomato or bell pepper
does really well over here!! it's also possible to grow other type of tomatoes at lower altitudes but only during the winter will
they ever produce. Hydroponics is another story...maybe it can be done that way in lower altitudes but i'm not sure...for herbs yes.

--- End quote ---


di you hear the new purple (not cultivated )
species

New discovered

(noty this one

https://www.usna.usda.gov/assets/images/as_standard_image/Capsicum_annuum_Black_Pearl.pdf

It is nice talking with you
Any hel[p is welcome\

Capsicum regale
New

- https://phytokeys.pensoft.net/article/57751/zoom/fig/12/

Francis_Eric:
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digigarden:

--- Quote from: Francis_Eric on June 01, 2022, 04:44:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: digigarden on June 01, 2022, 03:13:56 PM ---
Hi, my experience with tomatoes is just from home gardening and internet websites...i knew tomatoes were from the americas but
wasn't sure if they came from mexico or south america but they obviously spread all over in time.I do agree with that link
information even though i will tell you that the problem in "ultra tropical" areas is not only the diseases which are rampant.
However i must tell you in my experience that tomatoes don't simply die to disease right away(unless it's the rainy season
and it rains too much on them non stop)...they may grow very wbut then won't fruit.
for things like tomatoes and veggies in general but also there's a problem for flowering and producing fruit and this is not
only tomatoes but also peppers and even some eggplant varieties. However the smaller ones such as cherry type tomatoes or hot
peppers do really really well over here. It's probably tropical adaptation from those ancient wild species as the article says.
You can also grow things like cubanelle peppers and those italian type peppers over here...but bell peppers have problems
fruiting at all(at sea level)...you know there's a type of tomato called gajilete https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ExMREiP1qI
that also produces well in puerto rico that came from those italian type of tomatoes, that must be that those can flower well
without tropical winter or mountain tropical weather...that's the thing that in mid to high elevations any tomato or bell pepper
does really well over here!! it's also possible to grow other type of tomatoes at lower altitudes but only during the winter will
they ever produce. Hydroponics is another story...maybe it can be done that way in lower altitudes but i'm not sure...for herbs yes.

--- End quote ---


di you hear the new purple (not cultivated )
species

New discovered

(noty this one

https://www.usna.usda.gov/assets/images/as_standard_image/Capsicum_annuum_Black_Pearl.pdf

It is nice talking with you
Any hel[p is welcome\

Capsicum regale
New

- https://phytokeys.pensoft.net/article/57751/zoom/fig/12/

--- End quote ---

never seen those before...i have seen plenty of them that are multicolor though..

look at this idea where you can graft tomatoes in solanum torvum to avoid diseases and such you can make a tomato "tree" or eggplant tree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16t5FSnsFQU

digigarden:
https://mydesiredhome.com/solanum-tree-a-tree-growing-tomatoes-peppers-and-aubergines/

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