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Pouteria dominigensis question
« on: June 27, 2022, 08:18:16 AM »
I can find very little info about Pouteria dominigensis. Anyone grows or knows about it? What does the fruit taste like? Is it worth growing? Any insight is appreciated.
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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2022, 12:35:20 PM »
Paging digigarden!

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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2022, 01:48:06 PM »
What does it mean?
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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2022, 05:05:27 PM »
Did anyone tried Pouteria dominigensis fruit? Any comment?
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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2022, 05:53:14 PM »
digigarden is a user here who was selling seeds and may have had the fruit

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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2022, 06:01:57 PM »
digigarden is a user here who was selling seeds and may have had the fruit

Ah thank you!  I’ll reach out
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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2022, 04:39:53 AM »


Pouteria Domingensis=Totuma


It's Domingensis...there are typos floating around. Seems there's P.Domingensis subsp Domingensis with Longer leaves such as this one and there's a subsp Cuprea with rounder leaves? http://cedaf.org.do/arboles_dominicanos/index_ncomun.php?comun=Totuma
That's all the info for now until i find more from old books...

The fruit tastes more like a wild canistel and it's a nice lil thing and not bad...but cannot compete against the larger pouterias. I had a couple of seeds but never sold em as some seeds got confiscated so i've stopped selling seeds. But still go ahead fruit this thing and sell it over there as you will be one of the few selling these eh.




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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2022, 06:24:56 AM »


Pouteria Domingensis=Totuma


It's Domingensis...there are typos floating around. Seems there's P.Domingensis subsp Domingensis with Longer leaves such as this one and there's a subsp Cuprea with rounder leaves? http://cedaf.org.do/arboles_dominicanos/index_ncomun.php?comun=Totuma
That's all the info for now until i find more from old books...

The fruit tastes more like a wild canistel and it's a nice lil thing and not bad...but cannot compete against the larger pouterias. I had a couple of seeds but never sold em as some seeds got confiscated so i've stopped selling seeds. But still go ahead fruit this thing and sell it over there as you will be one of the few selling these eh.

Thank you for the info! Really appreciate it. This fruit is so little known and yet it is native to Florida and Greater Antilles.

Regarding the name. I believe the epithet name “dominigensis” is correct and not a typo like the other one. I verify all scientific names through World Checklist of Selected Plant Families. Pouteria dominigensis is an accepted name. https://wcsp.science.kew.org/qsearch.do
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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2022, 07:27:34 AM »
Well there's a lot of species with the name Domingensis out there so idk about that.

Where did you get this plant btw?

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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2022, 02:09:00 PM »
Well there's a lot of species with the name Domingensis out there so idk about that.

Where did you get this plant btw?

Yes and that’s why it is easier to follow nomenclature accepted by one of the world’s authorities like Kew Gardens.

I got the seedling from a friend. Not sure where he got the seeds.
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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2022, 09:48:20 PM »
I call it "sapote culebra" to distinguish it. Pouteria domingensis has a rich history in the Caribbean & Florida.
This Sapotaceae at one time was considered native to Florida, now considered naturalized, but still rare.

Have 1 tree in the ground, from Cuban seeds. I ate the fruit from what I think was called Totuma, but they were a tad overripe.
I know of very few trees in Florida.

I believe what I have planted is Pouteria dominguensis subsp. Dominguensis (round leaves)

The "Totuma" I observed and tasted has pointy leaves. I have 2 seedlings from that tree.

Digigarden I am interested in any info about subsp. Cuprea to review whatever you found.
Aside from this link - http://cedaf.org.do/arboles_dominicanos/index_ncomun.php?comun=Totuma
Good info about using the Kew list to help with names.




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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2022, 07:59:32 PM »
I call it "sapote culebra" to distinguish it. Pouteria domingensis has a rich history in the Caribbean & Florida.
This Sapotaceae at one time was considered native to Florida, now considered naturalized, but still rare.

Have 1 tree in the ground, from Cuban seeds. I ate the fruit from what I think was called Totuma, but they were a tad overripe.
I know of very few trees in Florida.

I believe what I have planted is Pouteria dominguensis subsp. Dominguensis (round leaves)

The "Totuma" I observed and tasted has pointy leaves. I have 2 seedlings from that tree.

Digigarden I am interested in any info about subsp. Cuprea to review whatever you found.
Aside from this link - http://cedaf.org.do/arboles_dominicanos/index_ncomun.php?comun=Totuma
Good info about using the Kew list to help with names.



Nice stuff, are all of them totumas or only the ones in the right?

Yes in this document you see it has roundish leaves but the plants i've seen they all had longer and pointy leaves...so i'm still confused about that. There's some very old books that describe such species and i need to take a look at them :)
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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2022, 09:22:18 PM »




Well there's some info here...
Aside from describing the leaves and flowers it says
that P.Domingensis(Gaertn.f.) Baehni is not common in Dominican Republic but it's common in Haiti,Florida,Bahamas and Cuba but the variety cuprea(Urb. & Ekm.) Cron is the common variety in DR... but now i'm more confused in which one is what... go figure :)
It also says that the wood? from this plant has "hypnotic" properties.



from the link(warning it's like over 1 GB
https://repositorio.unphu.edu.do/bitstream/handle/123456789/207/Diccionario%20Botanico%20De%20Nombres%20Vulgares%20De%20la%20espa%c3%b1ola.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
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Re: Pouteria dominigensis question
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2022, 09:47:26 PM »




hmm i think we got it so the var cuprea must have reddish/coppery hints like in that cedaf picture 0_0 but i don't think that's the one i have....

 

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