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water temp 100+
« on: July 26, 2023, 08:39:53 AM »

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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2023, 08:58:43 AM »
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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2023, 10:20:02 AM »
Well....maybe it'll cook the red tide  :-\
Really not good for Florida's aquatic ecosystem, and there's no room to argue otherwise.

Let's stay away from the 3rd rail of politics or the cause of the warming please, otherwise I'll have to shut it down.
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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2023, 10:48:58 AM »
Here's an article with some more information about the effects on marine life:

https://phys.org/news/2023-07-florida-ocean-temperature-topped-100f.html


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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2023, 10:58:45 AM »
Well....maybe it'll cook the red tide  :-\
Really not good for Florida's aquatic ecosystem, and there's no room to argue otherwise.

Let's stay away from the 3rd rail of politics or the cause of the warming please, otherwise I'll have to shut it down.

I agree,just crazy hot it about killed me yesterday working in this heat and no cloud cover.

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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2023, 11:37:36 AM »

I've lived in Florida since the mid-70's, what I've seen since then has been dramatic. Winter conditions used to last a solid 3-4 months, now it's spread out over what seems like 3-4 weeks total. The changes my kids will see when I am gone will likely be even more dramatic; not a hopeful thought. With the hotter water temps the storms will reach Cat4/5 quickly, I'm guessing they'll see some of the Keys get wiped away.


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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2023, 12:15:57 PM »
Change is Inevitable:::

https://floridakeys.noaa.gov/ocean/limestone.html

 NOAA: Previous Higher Sea Levels covering the Florida Keys:::
"They are island remnants of ancient coral reefs (Upper Keys) and sand bars (Lower Keys) that flourished during a period of higher sea levels approximately 125,000 years ago (a period of geologic time known as the Pleistocene Epoch)."

 NOAA: Previous Lower Sea Levels
"During this time of lower sea levels, the Florida land mass was much larger than it is today and the area now referred to as Florida Bay was forested. As glaciers and polar ice caps started melting 15,000 years ago, flooding of land combined with tidal influence changed the geography of the Keys and their surrounding areas."

Just noting the earth fluctuating with time:::
NOAA: Old data of 1936 July Heat Wave
https://www.weather.gov/ilx/july1936heat#:~:text=July%201936%2C%20part%20of%20the,people%20died%20from%20the%20heat.

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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2023, 12:44:37 PM »
Change is Inevitable:::

Yes, what's notable with the current change is the pace. In the historical examples of warm periods or ice ages, they typically formed slowly over millions of years, allowing both marine life and terrestrial life a chance to adapt (though even at that slower pace, plenty of extinctions occurred).

The current pace of warming is far more rapid than any historical examples, and it will be a lot harder for species to adapt, which means corals, fishes, etc., may go extinct at much higher rates than in the historical periods you're describing.

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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2023, 01:47:56 PM »
Change is Inevitable:::

Yes, what's notable with the current change is the pace. In the historical examples of warm periods or ice ages, they typically formed slowly over millions of years, allowing both marine life and terrestrial life a chance to adapt (though even at that slower pace, plenty of extinctions occurred).

The current pace of warming is far more rapid than any historical examples, and it will be a lot harder for species to adapt, which means corals, fishes, etc., may go extinct at much higher rates than in the historical periods you're describing.
Even more drastic temperature changes have happened in the past, but those have involved major volcanic eruptions, meteor impacts, etc.,. Excluding those, there's no precedent for how quickly temperatures are rising without singular causes.

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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2023, 02:02:25 PM »
need some rain

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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2023, 03:10:37 PM »
Natives are hoping the extra heat burns out some of the transplants. When we lose the keys, it'll be because they were crushed into the ocean floor by the weight of all the extra people in the state! (I think I'll adopt this as my new theory). In fact, the unprecedented rise in temp is probably combination of the body heat and hot breath of all our new neighbors.

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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2023, 03:58:16 PM »
A friend in Cairns QLD told me that after an unprecedented high 40'c day, a lot of Palms in the city and suburbs dropped dead. Mainly certain species. Also Fruit bats fell out of the trees. A TV gardening person in Brisbane says he sowed a successful crop of sweet corn every month in recent years, which is not the usual case, "Winter is NOT Coming". If Crocodiles start showing up as far South as Brisbane, not sure if Game of Thrones fans will get these puns.

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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2023, 03:36:13 AM »
Time to start zone-pushing tropicals

Are you guys expecting the humidity will keep up if current trends continue? I've wondered about that in regards to Florida.

We keep setting records out here in Phx for most consecutive days over 110, and I lost a bunch of plants this year that handled multiple previous summers (and higher single-day temps for that matter) just fine. It's the lack of humidity out here in our pizza oven of a city and too many nights where it isn't cooling down at all, even some of the true tropicals are not liking that (although some of them are LOVING it). My crappy neighbors need to plant more trees.

I guess being able to grow proper mangosteens out there in Florida might be a minor consolation prize, at least.

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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2023, 06:47:33 AM »
Nothing short of summertime bathwater but +10, wow. I've never experienced such a dry summer here in naples with 94 highs and no rain.its usually raining every day by now. I'm hoping that will change this week since the forecast is over 50% chance for the next week. Maybe it's the El Nino pattern??? I just hope we start getting rain.

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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2023, 09:26:43 AM »
Nothing short of summertime bathwater but +10, wow. I've never experienced such a dry summer here in naples with 94 highs and no rain.its usually raining every day by now. I'm hoping that will change this week since the forecast is over 50% chance for the next week. Maybe it's the El Nino pattern??? I just hope we start getting rain.

Here in Boynton on the east coast we are getting insane amounts of rain daily.

With these temps it would be tough without it.

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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2023, 08:46:40 PM »
I noticed that side of Florida has been getting a lot more rain than normal. It keeps saying rain possible afternoon and then nothing happens......any day now it should start coming down. At least the plants are getting well water being on a drip line.

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2023, 10:09:22 PM »
Nothing short of summertime bathwater but +10, wow. I've never experienced such a dry summer here in naples with 94 highs and no rain.its usually raining every day by now. I'm hoping that will change this week since the forecast is over 50% chance for the next week. Maybe it's the El Nino pattern??? I just hope we start getting rain.

Here in Boynton on the east coast we are getting insane amounts of rain daily.

With these temps it would be tough without it.
Very true.  Last summer we went for two months (July and August) with almost no rain.  I hope the situation improves around Naples.
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Re: water temp 100+
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2023, 08:36:27 AM »
What the hay is the wet bulb? Went outside  at 5:00 a.m. was like having a wet blanket thrown on me! Instantly got a gag reflex started sneezing. Got to work went to the ice cooler and broke out in a sweat. All before the sun came up. How is it in your neck of the woods. Just when my body thought it had a reprieve. I guess we're in the season of a hoodie one day and then a speedo the next LOL 😨🥵
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2023, 12:22:39 PM »
Forecast looks interesting next week.
54 degrees two nights in a row will be a shock
Then it's predicting only mid to lower 80's for highs going forward
Won't be long I'll be worried about the cold nights

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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2023, 01:38:10 PM »
Skeptical 100F water temp unless it was a puddle.
My pool was no where near that warm.  Actually, with all the rain it was cooler then last yr.  Barely felt 89-90F more then a couple times.
Looking at it right now wishing it was warmer!  :)

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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2023, 03:02:22 PM »
Skept not. My pool is partially shaded, and hit 96. I've been around the beaches, shore, and Biscayne Bay on a boat, talked with fisherman, and can access other sources of information. A combo of consistent hot temps with limited winds and current has led to lots of still and hot water.

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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2023, 03:17:06 PM »
This is an older thread from July but that early in the morning it's only one I could think of where we were opining about the humidity. Friday morning wet bulb was 86 don't know if that's extremely bad but it was definitely not extremely good. We had two days of some heavy downpours all I know is it came from the West. In hindsight I guess should have made a thread called Florida weather South Southwest and Central. That way forum members from Florida can kind of give us an update on weather in their local. I think Southwest Florida had a drought this summer but I think central Florida rainfall averages were about normal. What A Difference A Day Makes 82 degrees low humidity good yard maintenance weather. Hopefully the ramifications from the Gulf getting that hot did not lead to Fishkill or Red tide. One of many reasons is I am going to be vacationing there the week of Christmas close to Anna Maria Island in Bradenton Beach

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