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Looks good to me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla
« on: March 13, 2025, 04:16:52 PM »
I have like 10 of these. Been sampling them from just barely give to the touch to practically falling apart. In nowhere in between were they palatable.

Sounds like you don't know when they aren't ripe.

Thats what they taste like when unripe.

Picked too early.

Im guilty of doing this when I first started picking my own.

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When it gets hot out again.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zill 40-26 Fruit
« on: March 12, 2025, 09:34:38 PM »
40-26 grows painfully slow, that much spacing is overkill.

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For those that don't have a license to buy from a wholesale location.


Even without a license most of us buy from Zill but through a middle man.
How does that work?

Typically they buy smaller plants and up pot them to make some profit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla
« on: March 12, 2025, 05:53:53 PM »
Sounds like you don't know when they aren't ripe.

Thats what they taste like when unripe.

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For those that don't have a license to buy from a wholesale location.


Even without a license most of us buy from Zill but through a middle man.

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The GOAT Zill High Performance Plants.

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Salis Wood is what you want.

Mine is out of control with production.

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Unfortunately we have indeed had uneven ripening issues with Excalibur mamey. It’s also been really bad about fruit retention, even though it sets well. Hoping that subsides some with age.

Excalibur said the large tree older tree they have, has no problems with uneven ripening.

All the fruit Ive bought from them of that variety didnt either.

Might be another of those plant that with age will improve.

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Isnt chelated iron easier to use?

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I recall there used to be, very passionate discussions actually between people who cared and people who didn't.
Came close to fisticuffs if I remember right.  Perhaps folks want a little peace and quiet.

Not sure what to search for to pull up some of the threads but it started from discussions about use of chemical fertilizers vs organic with soil management and improvement.

Its been a while and perhaps I am mixing forums, but some old timer here may be able to confirm.

Oh lord. This is a really gnarly battle. I don't mind using both synthetic and organic inputs, but seems some people are deeply committed to whichever they choose.

We lost some members from that soil battle for sure.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nurseries to visit in West Palm Beach
« on: March 07, 2025, 04:30:44 AM »
Excalubur in Lake Worth.

This is the biggest one out of all of these.

Plus they sell fruit.

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I just hesitate because Ive been burned a few times from Paul and Julians selections.

To me they are just out to make videos to sell trees.

Alex, Har, Gary, and Walter are the only guys I take seriously now.

They are local to me and definitely put in the work.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Mangoes Should I Grow?
« on: March 06, 2025, 04:16:42 PM »
To me Haden is like a light tasting Glenn.

But I do love both of them. Glenn is just a better producer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mercurial Marvel Mango
« on: March 06, 2025, 05:37:21 AM »
I dont think he has ever released them to the public.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« on: March 05, 2025, 10:11:23 PM »
I was surprised (again) by actually tasting the fruit. I can just imagine someone who never tasted Sapodilla before having an Excalibur and freaking out ;D If you like sweet fruit, Excalibur is an absolute winner with the flavor to back it up.

Because of the sweetness, I would shade towards eating it at the earlier stages of ripeness, basically as soon as it cuts easily. Then you get nice firm texture and limit the sweetness slightly. For my palate that works the best. I'm sure if you let it get super ripe it would ultimately soften and reach an overwhelming level of sweetness.

I prefer the less sweet and more complex varieties like Molix and Hasya but the Excalibur is such an intense experience that I will probably end up planting a tree.

mikesid, how productive is your Excalibur tree? Any thoughts on the growth habit?

Pineflatwoods, if you make the drive to Excalibur, be sure to visit Xain's World, Jack and The Beanstalk Nursery and Incredible Edible Landscapes. They are all within about 15 minutes of Excalibur and they all specialize in different rare items.


Just had an excalibur and tried it a bit firmer and yeah its just about perfect like that.

Excalibur had a ton of them for sale last weekend.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« on: March 05, 2025, 10:07:35 PM »
I've avoided Excalibur because of the distance, and the propensity to mislabel trees, but I may have to take a trip there, I wonder if anybody else is growing this?

The people working there now are top notch.

The grouchy old man that lives on that road finally stopped pulling shifts there.

They did a 180 in the past few years.

I'll have to check it out, I picked up a few small trees from them a couple years ago and everything seems kosher so far.

I think the draw with Butterscotch was that is was a large fruit.

But so was Ox, and it has been completely barren for most people- Steve from fruitscapes finally gave up on it. So I passed on that one

Thats interesting since I have a friend with an OX and he gives publix bags full of them to anyone who will take them a couple times a year because it is so productive. Its crazy how productive that tree is at his house in east Lantana.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« on: March 05, 2025, 08:05:29 PM »
I've avoided Excalibur because of the distance, and the propensity to mislabel trees, but I may have to take a trip there, I wonder if anybody else is growing this?

The people working there now are top notch.

The grouchy old man that lives on that road finally stopped pulling shifts there.

They did a 180 in the past few years.

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The Jamaica is a newly introduced variety no?

I see TREC had it planted long ago but we have little data from back yard growers from what I can find.

I would figure if it was amazing the fruit freaks on here would have tons of real world experience, but there is none.

We should be careful to push anything with question marks on its resume.   

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« on: March 05, 2025, 07:21:32 PM »
My Excalibur is finally sending flowers out, I cant wait to have those all the time.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« on: March 05, 2025, 12:39:26 PM »
The guys who are more knowledgeable just cant work youtubes algorithm like paul.

Thats where he excels.

I try and help correct his mistakes in the comments when I have free time.

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Just went to excalibur and they have that variety from 3 gallons up to 200 gallons.

To me they rival Lara with mamey selection and size of the plants.

No 1 gallons there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zinc, Venus, Ceci Love, Fruit only
« on: March 04, 2025, 04:34:14 PM »
Gotta wonder, how many people who voted for Venus or Zinc have actually tried a good CL? It is the rarest of the 3 choices.

I have yet to try it so I didnt vote.

Im totally a zinc fan but it sounds like CL will fill that void.

I have 2 CL trees planted in the ground but just too young to even flower yet.

Actually, its the only variety I have 2 of in the ground.

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Im thinking about going but have nothing fruiting at the moment.

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