Braiding grapevines

[bovine421]

I know it's probably not practical or necessary but has anyone braided two different varieties of grapevines? Female and a self pollinator planted about 6 in to a foot apart. Braiding The Vines vertically until they reach the wire then running one North and the other South. As a backyard gardener always trying to think of ways to get more varieties on less real estate. I have a summit muscadine and a  Ison muscadine Vines being shipped. I saw a large bougainvillea that was braided with three different colors in the Florida Keys

[Calusa]

I grew a Dixie and a Triumph decades ago on a 10x12 arbor, each planted on opposite corners. Each season they grew together so thickly I could get up there and walk across them. Tons of fruit. I wouldn't recommend braiding them and I would give them a little more space than one foot as well. After a few years the "trunks" get pretty thick and gnarled. I would use #9 galvanized wire and a couple of 8' 4x4 posts buried 2 feet deep.  Those vines can really stress whatever they're growing on. Good luck!

[bovine421]

I grew a Dixie and a Triumph decades ago on a 10x12 arbor, each planted on opposite corners. Each season they grew together so thickly I could get up there and walk across them. Tons of fruit. I wouldn't recommend braiding them and I would give them a little more space than one foot as well. After a few years the "trunks" get pretty thick and gnarled. I would use #9 galvanized wire and a couple of 8' 4x4 posts buried 2 feet deep.  Those vines can really stress whatever they're growing on. Good luck!

Yeah I understand why the commercial people have a standardized way of doing things because they want maximum amount of berries pervine. I just thought maybe a landscaper or a monk who took a vow celibacy did a controlled crash experiment just to see artistically what they could create. In nature sometimes trees fuse trunks together and they do some pretty wacky things with plants and trees. Thanks
for answering I like your Arbor idea I may go that route. I'm sure the squirrels will like that idea too🙂
Tressage

https://wineanorak.com/2020/04/14/tressage-an-alternative-to-hedging-vines-with-some-benefits/






Someone must have took the vow I suppose
Gah gah gah

[Calusa]

Here's a photo of mine from around 1987 two years or so after planting. The top is around 1/3 filled out in the photo - when the muscadines are ripe it's total heavy shade underneath. So much fun cutting it back every year!