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For the trees that I have coconut cream Malika Little Gem have been subpar. My cream was not as intensely flavored as I expected. So far Little Gym has been watery and the sugar content seems low. The early mangoes possibly because of the drought were intensely flavored. Of the late season cotton candy has been spectacular. The latest test batch of orange sherbert which took 9 days ripen or finning was pleasantly good last night. Finally had a M4 drop so will pick a sample batch this weekend. What can I say about Valencia Pride other than it's a proven performer for that can practically feed a village. If it's blown gets toasted by Frost it just freaking lose it seems to shake most fungal issues off by just growing and growing. The General Public seems very satisfied with this mango so there's no need to give him anything more complexed. One benefit of the recent storms is growth of my juvenile trees. We are all very satisfied with this year is good bloom and fruit set🙂
Tete Nene Julie Juliet Carrie Ice Cream Coconut Cream Little Gem  Dot  Mallika PPK  OS  Pina Colada Cotton Candy Buxton Spice  Michelle M-4  Marc Anthony White Pirie Lychee Cherilata Plantain Barbados Cherry

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2024, 09:20:34 AM »
I had a Dwarf Hawaiian that was extraordinary.  I wasn't expecting it to be so good.  Cac was very good.  Everything that was subpar I will attribute to the growing conditions at the place from which they were procured.  I'm glad to hear that about Cotton Candy.  My only experience with them was subpar, yet I could taste the potential, but aren't they on the fibrous side?
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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2024, 09:52:34 AM »
Cecilove and Sweet Tart were 1A & 1B favorites in my yard this year. My two Little Gem fruits held on forever and were very meh. I picked one way too soon and let the other hang until two weeks ago when the color change and aged stem seemed to indicate it was ripening; it was the size of a cannonball and tasted only slightly better.


Honey Kiss are coming off the tree now and they are also underwhelming, so far (lots still hanging). Edible, but all have some level of jelly-seed and taste similar to some of the random seedling trees in vacant lots I've had over the years. First year for them in my yard and the fruit production was impressive. All my Orange Essence are still hanging, not one dropped during Debby.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2024, 11:11:50 AM »
Cecilove and Sweet Tart were 1A & 1B favorites in my yard this year.
Could you comment on the difference in flavor between SweetTart and CeciLove?  I planted CeciLove instead of SweetTart because I wanted a tree that would be easier to manage and keep reasonably small.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2024, 11:15:16 AM by johnb51 »
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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2024, 11:23:24 AM »
I felt like this mango season started strong and finished/is finishing weak. Early season and mid season varieties were divine (Carrie, Jehangir, Sweet Tart, Orange sherbet), late season has been meh and bleh (Kent, Little Gem, etc).

And most of the sweet tarts that I grabbed later in the season were poor imitations of the early season.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2024, 04:52:04 PM »
Walter Zill said this is a very strange Florida mango season.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2024, 08:13:50 PM »
Lost a bunch due to very intense wind early this season. Edward, Sugar Loaf, Glen, Rosigold, Maha and NDM lost all or almost all their egg sized fruit in late March. Up to 40 mph gusts all day long caused a lot of damage.
Pickering, VP, Miracle and OS were much better holding on to fruit despite being exposed. The M4, Karen Michelle, Son Pari and Super A. were not as exposed and kept most their fruit. Son Pari was a pleasant surprise, outstanding Mango. Slight susceptibility to MBBS. Super A is wife's favorite. Vigorous tree, no disease problems and superior flavor and texture. Yehangir, Venus, Phoenix, Peach Cobler, Sweet Tart, Cac were shy producers. The trees are still young, so I hope performance will improve.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2024, 04:39:48 AM »
After freezes the last two years I expected a great season this year. And this winter no freeze, but temperatures apparently cool enough to suppress pollinator activity. No mango produced well at all, but the Cac I did get were really fantastic. Top ten certainly, maybe top five. And my two Emerald fruit were very, very good as well.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2024, 06:29:48 AM »
Taste wise I had only a few mangoes this year.
Phillipines and Keitts were both excellent
Maha Chanok noticeably was worse(picked up much more old vegetable flavor)

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2024, 08:29:31 AM »
None in my yard were too bad probably because it hasn't really rained all that much. The standouts were LZ, O-15, M4 and the few fruit punch that came off early

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2024, 08:37:45 AM »
Cecilove and Sweet Tart were 1A & 1B favorites in my yard this year.
Could you comment on the difference in flavor between SweetTart and CeciLove?  I planted CeciLove instead of SweetTart because I wanted a tree that would be easier to manage and keep reasonably small.

My take on the difference bw CL and ST is: ST has more acid punch, CL has more spice with balanced acid. CL is a little more complex, ST is a little more of a flavor bomb.

They are both super sweet and delicious with no fiber; I must grow both of them.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2024, 10:10:20 AM »
I also lost a ton of fruit in the wind. Heartbreak city.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2024, 11:06:12 AM »
This season, the best mango that i had came from a Haden tree.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2024, 01:03:05 PM »
This year was kinda a bum year
but I had a very amazing mercurial marvel.
The other varieties this year were either washed out or lacking in sweetness compared to other years...
Don't get me wrong they were still way better than store bought, but not to the full potential.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2024, 02:33:58 PM »
This year was kinda a bum year
but I had a very amazing mercurial marvel.
The other varieties this year were either washed out or lacking in sweetness compared to other years...
Don't get me wrong they were still way better than store bought, but not to the full potential.
What is Mercurial Marvel?  What's the backstory?
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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2024, 02:47:13 PM »
Cecilove and Sweet Tart were 1A & 1B favorites in my yard this year.
Could you comment on the difference in flavor between SweetTart and CeciLove?  I planted CeciLove instead of SweetTart because I wanted a tree that would be easier to manage and keep reasonably small.

My take on the difference bw CL and ST is: ST has more acid punch, CL has more spice with balanced acid. CL is a little more complex, ST is a little more of a flavor bomb.

They are both super sweet and delicious with no fiber; I must grow both of them.
Yeah, they are almost like siblings in their flavor profile. Both are very intense, each gets an “oh wow!” when I let a newbie sample them. Sweet Tart is a darker flesh and ever so slightly richer experience, while Ceci is a balanced, exquisite explosion in your mouth. ST is like my favorite candy growing up, while Ceci reminds me of my favorite champagnes. Gotta have both if at all possible, but I’d pick Ceci if I had to.


ST fruits in clusters (so lots of smaller fruits) and is definitely lankier. Ceci was mostly individual hanging fruits for me and has a denser canopy.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2024, 02:55:21 PM »
My Lancitilla had its first decent season this year, they were bad enough to warrant chopping it down this fall.

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2024, 03:26:34 PM »
Cecilove and Sweet Tart were 1A & 1B favorites in my yard this year.
Could you comment on the difference in flavor between SweetTart and CeciLove?  I planted CeciLove instead of SweetTart because I wanted a tree that would be easier to manage and keep reasonably small.

My take on the difference bw CL and ST is: ST has more acid punch, CL has more spice with balanced acid. CL is a little more complex, ST is a little more of a flavor bomb.

They are both super sweet and delicious with no fiber; I must grow both of them.
Yeah, they are almost like siblings in their flavor profile. Both are very intense, each gets an “oh wow!” when I let a newbie sample them. Sweet Tart is a darker flesh and ever so slightly richer experience, while Ceci is a balanced, exquisite explosion in your mouth. ST is like my favorite candy growing up, while Ceci reminds me of my favorite champagnes. Gotta have both if at all possible, but I’d pick Ceci if I had to.


ST fruits in clusters (so lots of smaller fruits) and is definitely lankier. Ceci was mostly individual hanging fruits for me and has a denser canopy.
Thanks for commenting.  (I spent you a PM also so you can ignore that! :) )  I hope my CL tree has a few fruit next year.
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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2024, 03:53:46 PM »
This year was kinda a bum year
but I had a very amazing mercurial marvel.
The other varieties this year were either washed out or lacking in sweetness compared to other years...
Don't get me wrong they were still way better than store bought, but not to the full potential.
What is Mercurial Marvel?  What's the backstory?
it's one of Mango Men Homestead's releases (planet ones)

Really amazing taste. Reminded me of a muscadine.
 
I will pay top dollar for a plant lol

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2024, 04:58:01 PM »
Wait till ya'll try Carioca. It is up there with CL and ST (but maybe not as powerful a flavor bomb), but is unique; never have tasted a mango quite like it. Hard to describe. Exquisite, complex, and delicious. Might need to make a new flavor profile category. Had 1 this year; planting my tree in ground this weekend.


...and yeah, Mercurial Marvel is really good as well. If you catch them at the right time, exceptional.
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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2024, 05:56:06 PM »
Wait till ya'll try Carioca. It is up there with CL and ST (but maybe not as powerful a flavor bomb), but is unique; never have tasted a mango quite like it. Hard to describe. Exquisite, complex, and delicious. Might need to make a new flavor profile category. Had 1 this year; planting my tree in ground this weekend.


...and yeah, Mercurial Marvel is really good as well. If you catch them at the right time, exceptional.

Is Carioca one of Campbell's also?

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Re: Mango varieties that were subpar and others that were out of park good
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2024, 06:06:38 PM »
Yes, Dr. Campbell/MM developed Carioca. Mother is Bombay, likely father is Duncan.

It even looks different. New growth has emerged as leafless shoots, then later developed leaves. The leaves look wider and shorter than other trees, at least at this size.