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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trouble germinating sugar apple seeds
« on: September 17, 2023, 05:39:34 PM »
I'm 5/5 GPF's Cuban No Grit sugar apple seeds. I just used a metal file (like $3 from the hardware store) to scrape the ends a bit, soaked them in water overnight and then stuck them in some soil and placed the pot on my screened porch. It's been about a month and all five seedlings are a few inches tall.

I usually just scrape them on some concrete. Seems less fiddly than a file or sandpaper.

It looks closer to my brasiliensis than to purple mangosteen.

G mangostana new leaf is more of a purpleish shade vs yours looks more on the brown side. Leaf shape looks closer to the brasiliensis I've had and seen.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Andean Walnut
« on: September 16, 2023, 11:16:40 PM »
I germinated black walnut easy just moist potting mix. Might be as easy but can't say, good luck! Oscar at fruitlovers might have some insight

Oscar said the shell on Juglans Neotropica is substantially harder than Juglans Nigra

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's going on with my Jackfruit?
« on: September 15, 2023, 10:46:57 PM »
My guess is squirrels or rats

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Just wanted to show my new setup
« on: September 14, 2023, 10:20:34 PM »
Make some "mosquito bits" tea and water with it, it'll get rid of your fungus gnat issue 100%! Your set up looks great! Itll be cool to see what happens with the grafted mangosteen indoors.

I tried mosquito bits and neem cake and spinosad and they always ended up coming back. Not sure if they came back in from outside since they are ubiquitous here. The only thing that really helped was getting rid of all my mother plants.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Just wanted to show my new setup
« on: September 14, 2023, 04:08:58 PM »
I'd suggest putting a bend in your air intake hose. I kept having outbreaks of thrips and fungus gnats and since I put in a longer hose with a 90 degree angle I haven't had any problems. The light seems to attract them. Not sure how the thrips kept getting in but they are a huge pain in the ass.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: High Stake Grafts
« on: September 14, 2023, 04:03:46 PM »

Looks like a normal height stake to me   8)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 08, 2023, 09:47:21 PM »
Put up some cameras

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hilo Arboretum 9/1/23
« on: September 02, 2023, 01:44:17 PM »
I got to go to one of my favorite places on the island yesterday after serving some papers in Hilo. Here's some pictures:

Xanthorrhoea sp: This grass tree is one of my favorite plants here. I was finally able to collect some seed off the ground after shaking the stalks. I hope it germinates, the internet said they do pretty easily but are often killed by overwatering. Also if anyone could please help with a specific ID that would be greatly appreciated!

Tabernaemontana Pachysiphon: This one was in bloom for the first time I noticed. I actually hadn't looked at this plant on my many trips here before but I am glad it caught my eye this time! I couldn't get a picture but most of the flowers had small wasps or flies on them. They kind of looked like tiny yellowjackets but a lot less angry. The flowers do smell somewhat of cinnamon.

Gmelina fasciculiflora: My jaw dropped upon seeing the fruit hanging in the tree. The fruit is not edible but I touched some of the juice to my tongue and it is similar in taste to Gmelina Arborea. There is a large Gmelina Arborea tree about 100 yards away from this tree, but the color of the fruits on Gmelina fasciculiflora is stunning. The pulp smells strange but not entirely offputting like wikipedia lead me to believe. It definitely did stain my fingers brown and for hours after it felt similar to having dried superglue all over my fingers, kind of a rough sensation. The smell stuck to my hands for hours so that wasn't very nice. Next time I'll use gloves and maybe a cherry pitter to speed up seed extraction.

A group of several Garcinia Mangostana trees. I have only tasted one immature but somehow ripe fruit we found on the ground since these ones are extremely popular. Last time we came the Garcinia Dulcis tree was exploding with fruit but not this time. My mom wanted me to take a picture of the purple mangosteen trees so she could get a sense for how large they get. Apparently they weren't as large as she thought, but then again they did seem a lot larger to me at first.

The abiu and jaboticaba trees were producing as well. I am still looking for E-4 Abiu if anyone has some for sale. I also got to try better fruit off the wampee I took seed from before and it was amazing, like sugar water with citrus flavor. I did find another wampee that they had misnumbered and the fruit wasn't as good. They didnt have seeds either and you had to suck the flesh out and it was much less juicy compared to the other wampee fruit that just explodes into your mouth. They also have a breadfruit tree called "rare autia" that I don't know anything about so if someone else does I would love to hear about it!

Also I got a couple alupag fruits. I havent had any success growing the two seedlings that sprouted and couldnt find much care instructions online... The taste is indescribable, in spite of the small amount of flesh vs giant seed.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mammey seeds germination?
« on: August 28, 2023, 10:55:53 PM »
Any idea how to remove the shell?

I use vise grips to get it started then the rest pull off by fingers (hurt fingers though)

The fibers kind of run longways across the seed and you can sort of peel it as you would a banana.

Most of the ones I've decorticated have a little tab kind of thing that makes it easier to get it started.
How deep you get by removing the layers? Until you see the embryo?

Yes I remove all the hairy bits. It seems to help a bit with germination time but still several months for most before theyre above ground. IIRC the one that I forgot about wasn't decorticated.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mammey seeds germination?
« on: August 26, 2023, 06:20:58 PM »
Any idea how to remove the shell?

I use vise grips to get it started then the rest pull off by fingers (hurt fingers though)

The fibers kind of run longways across the seed and you can sort of peel it as you would a banana.

Most of the ones I've decorticated have a little tab kind of thing that makes it easier to get it started.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mammey seeds germination?
« on: August 26, 2023, 06:19:15 PM »
I rip off the hairy shell then put them in pots and they still can take several months to germinate.

A couple of them I gave up on and noticed they popped up and were super dried out.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for bulk imbe seeds
« on: June 21, 2023, 07:05:45 PM »
How long does imbe take to fruit from seed?  I have like five seedlings and they aren't exactly vigorous.

personally, any sizeable ones went to our repository so I don't know the growth rate off the top of my head. but i recently sold my last imbe seedling.  well over a year (granted, I'm not the best when it comes to growing out b/c i punish them with full sun outside).  but man this 10" seedling had beautiful root system as almost as long as the seedling itself!

We put three of your imbe in the ground a couple months ago  8)

His done well expanding the awareness of rare fruit!

I donít agree with some of his fruit ratings and descriptions but hey thatís pretty much life!! Haha
For some fruit heís been the only one with a taste description.

All the fruit on youtube, is a bit more accurate with description IMOE and does show trees and growing conditions on another level.


I came to comment about all the fruit haha

Theyre on the forum, same with Jared pretty sure.

Hi folks!

There is a product called sea 90 that is basically sea salt.

I've used it at their recommended rates and never had a problem. Haven't experimented too much with it to say much more about it though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: thinning out garcinia fruit
« on: May 10, 2023, 12:06:46 PM »
I took a picture this morning.
I'm not sure how big the fruit on brasiliensis get but I have quite a few that are around 1 inch in diameter.
2 of my 5 trees are going crazy now.

From the pictures I've seen of Brasiliensis they looked to be abour 3-4 inches

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering for flowering Pitaya
« on: May 08, 2023, 12:26:52 PM »
On this guys channel he built a hydroponic system for his DF. In another video he shows his results and the DF look pretty good to me.

Result Video:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: thinning out garcinia fruit
« on: May 08, 2023, 12:22:47 PM »
If you want larger fruits I would suggest Garcinia Brasiliensis.

Intermedia fruit size is pretty trivial on every plant I've seen.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First ever Cherimoya
« on: May 08, 2023, 12:20:46 PM »
I'm offended on behalf of Mark Twain

I'll agree with those who said canistel. While they aren't all dry, they do all taste "off" and the dry ones are like eating an old dried out hard boiled egg yolk. A friend of mine in Miami tried to convince me there are good ones and let me try one of his favorites when I was visiting a few years ago (I don't remember the cultivar), and it still was gross tasting to me. I have had good smoothies that mix it with other things.

Black sapote, on the other hand, is one of my favorite fruits, so I'm surprised to see so much hate here. I like to just eat it with a spoon when properly ripened, but it's also good in a smoothie even when not perfectly ripe. I'm eventually hoping to try to hybridize it with D. texana, which at least has the same chromosome count so might be able to cross (I couldn't find any research papers where it was attempted, though). I have a bunch of texana seedlings I'm planning to trial outside here, and plan to add a grafted black sapote to my greenhouse in a year or so.

You should try "Ross Sapote" before writing off canistel. The ones I've had were like a really good mamey, and I haven't had a mamey that I liked yet.

Noni. Smells like yak hork. I don't know why some people grow it.

The leaves are supposed to be pretty nutritious  8)

Mammee apple makes a good jam with some cinnamon and nutmeg

Theres a feral ivy gourd plant out back I'm waiting for fruit to cook with too

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: OT How to keep cats from landscape
« on: April 24, 2023, 12:22:20 PM »
Motion activated sprinkler

You might also want to share with your neighbor some of the reasons it is important to keep cats indoors.

I tell my mom that they eat cats around here, they tried to pass something outlawing the eating of cats and dogs in Hawaii, but she just laughs it off.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spacing for a garcina hedge
« on: April 11, 2023, 12:36:12 PM »
FWIW, there is decent "yellow mangosteen" out there.

Theres a 100+ foot tree at the Hilo arboretum here that has good fruits.

The flesh on the inside is sweet/sour, closer to the rind is edible but somewhat acrid.

correct me if Iím wrong but the fruit isnít that crazy; I mean visually sure it looks amazing just not a lot of flesh. Iím pretty sure people use the leaves of the tree as a vanilla substitute

edit: wait I'm confusing the vanilla substitute with pandan

The pandan plant normally used culinarily is Pandanus amaryllifolius, which is not the same as Hala

Hala can be used, and some cultivars have better fruit than others

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