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There are some older discussion threads that Hudson/S FL/Tropical, Triumph, and Winterset/Ormond persimmons do best in S Florida,

Ormond can be purchased from Just Fruits and Exotics,

Thank you for the Ormond suggestion. I'll read more about it and see if it will stand a chance in my climate. Meanwhile, I saw that a website called Richard Lyons Nursery blogged about Triumph persimmons last July, saying that they had it in stock. Unfortunately, they don't ship so I can't get any, but you may want to check them out.

The only vendor I know of is Lara Farms.

Larafarms don't have them in stock

BTW, I gave up my search for Triumph and I planted a Suruga Persimmon last month.

I've been haunting Lara Farms' website ever since I saw their video on Persimmons. I must've missed when it was in stock but I'm more vigilant now!

I wish I could grow a Suruga but my climate is probably far too hot so I'll just wait as long as I can to get the most tropical persimmon I can find.

What does the best for me is is what Zill was selling as South Fl Persimmon or Tropical Persimmon . Hudson is the real name . All three are the same.  Getting seed from American Persimmon from anywhere north of Fl will not work as a good root stock, You need to use seed from here. We are collecting seed from off the Kissimmee river and are going to try to graft in a year or two. As far as using black sapote it does not work you will get incompatibility in a year or two And we do not have any persimmons for sell now.

Thank you for this new information about rootstocks. I didn't realise that the wrong rootstock could affect the chill hours and we don't ever get any chill hours at all. Perhaps I really should try growing rootstock seeds from Florida to see if they would even stay alive in my climate.

Anyway, good luck with the grafting. It seems that many of us like persimmons and if I'm still looking by 2025/26, I'll definitely check with you.

Tropical persimmons that do well in South FL like Triumph or Hudson?

Pine Island may have Triumph,, but they're not always in stock. If anyone knows where to find Triumph, I'm looking for one too.

Yes, Iím looking for the Triumph and types like it. Iíll see if Pine Island has it in stock and might be willing to ship a single tree to a friend in Florida. Thanks for the suggestion.

Does anyone know where I might buy one of these please? Persimmon is one of my favourite fruits and I'd really like to try growing one.

Florida persimmon? Asian persimmons are likely what youíve had before from grocery stores etc. Iím in central FL 10a, and Saijo grows great here if you like soft type. For crunchy type, standard Fuyu works fine, or a larger version like Hana.

Yes, youíre quite right. Iíve only had Asian persimmons but I live in the tropics and I figured I wonít be able to get any Asian types to fruit. So I want to start with the Triumph/South Florida types to see whatís even possible and then either progress from there or give up the dream. If I manage to get one and it fruits, Iíll probably try the Saijo next.

You looking for a native American persimmon? I have seeds and plants available if so.

Iím looking for a Triumph/South Florida type but perhaps I could try growing a native American variety in the meantime, to see what happens. Iíll send you a PM. Thanks.

« on: March 31, 2024, 01:46:06 PM »
Does anyone know where I might buy one of these please? Persimmon is one of my favourite fruits and I'd really like to try growing one.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passion Fruit germination tips?
« on: January 25, 2024, 06:54:31 AM »
I've never succeeded with dry seeds but I once received wet-packed seeds of P. laurifolia from Hawaii and they sprouted before they got to me.

My plants arrived promptly and in excellent condition. They are even large enough to go in the ground by April. Kevin offered me a second plant at reduced rates and refunded excess shipping. Prompt responses, fast shipping and robust plants. I'm very happy with this transaction.

Thanks, Kevin!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarfing a vigorous tree
« on: July 30, 2023, 09:52:34 AM »
Iím definitely going to try this. I live in a climate where trees never seem to stop growing (and nearly all my trees are grown from seed too). If it reduces the vigour, even a little bit, that would be very helpful. I have a few young Kasturi mango seedlings out in the field and can test it on one of them.

Thanks Satya!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Underrated Mangos
« on: June 29, 2023, 09:50:18 AM »

Hey Raul I have been off here for over a year and its good to see you're still bring new stuff to the table. You will be please to know that a few of your plants over here are fruiting. I used to think they were male female and bisex but now it looks like all are bisex but one is 99.9% male and another is 99% female.

Welcome back, Mike. Iíve always found your posts very knowledgeable and helpful.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: POLYEMBRONIC MANGO SEEDS
« on: June 16, 2023, 01:17:03 AM »
kasturi is defintiely on that list.

I transplanted some seedlings from the Kasturi you sent me last September into the field just before the beginning of this yearís rainy season and theyíre growing quite nicely. I had extras and Iím giving away the last of them this afternoon. I guess thatís an extra benefit of poly seeds. Thanks Lance!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: POLYEMBRONIC MANGO SEEDS
« on: June 07, 2023, 03:43:59 AM »
And I'm still looking for polyembryonic seeds. I don't need them de-husked so if anyone has seeds they would have tossed in the trash, I might be interested. Please PM.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: POLYEMBRONIC MANGO SEEDS
« on: June 07, 2023, 03:40:55 AM »
Are Maha Chanok really polyembryonic? In my limited experience, and per Alex's site, they are monoembryonic.

Right! Thanks for clearing that up.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: POLYEMBRONIC MANGO SEEDS
« on: June 05, 2023, 02:02:02 AM »
Might have some Kensington pride soon, as long as the weevils donít get them all.

Yes! KP is on my wish list. I'll send a PM. Thank you!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: POLYEMBRONIC MANGO SEEDS
« on: June 05, 2023, 02:00:41 AM »
i have mahachinok mango fruit for sale those are poly seeds. 125 for a box usps and eat the fruit plant the seed. but i take venmo or zelle its about 10 pounds of fruits

I had no idea they were polyembryonic! I'll send you a PM.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB: POLYEMBRONIC MANGO SEEDS
« on: June 03, 2023, 01:55:58 PM »
Hello everyone!

Please PM me if you might consider selling a mix of polyembryonic mango seeds this season. Delivery would be to Colorado and payment via PayPal.


You learn something new every day. Thank you for this.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Physalis Species Review
« on: May 29, 2023, 01:27:32 AM »
Thank you for this review. I've tried to grow both these plants (no named cultivars though) for several years but never got any seeds to germinate. I tried again about a couple of weeks ago, using the wet tissue method, but since I'd never had any success, I didn't check on them for days. This time, the Physalis pruinosa germinated (almost 100%) and got too leggy! The P. peruviana still hasn't but I'll keep it for a little longer (and check it regularly!) So now I have to buy more seeds of the P. pruinosa but at least there's a good chance I'll get something going. It's a pity it got the worse review but at this point for me, beggars can't be choosers. But why doesn't the Poha berry sprout though?! Frustrating!

It sounds like a good place to quickly sell off any surplus fruit. Will you be doing that too?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: March 02, 2023, 02:27:35 PM »
The trees on the slope fruited faster than those downhill.
How many years and how large the trees to fruit? Why top work them -- don't like the honey sweet Okrung? I like them.

6 years on the slope, 7 downhill. I'm not sure exactly how tall but I'd say about 6-7 feet on the slope and perhaps 10 feet downhill. I'm not sure if they're actually Okrung but I also have a 3 year old Okrung seedling so I hope to compare them properly someday. However, as nice as they are, I'm looking for other varieties otherwise all the trees will be pretty much the same.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / WTB: CITRUS SEEDS MIX
« on: March 01, 2023, 02:33:50 AM »

Would anyone consider selling a mix of fresh citrus seeds? I'm new to citrus growing and it's hard to get grafted trees or scions so I'd like to try growing from seed. I'm not looking for anything exotic. The seeds would be sent to Texas (and I don't know the rules about this).

Thank you!

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