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Do these ship to California?

I have a 30-foot tall Soursop at my farm in zone 9B in Brazil.  Yearly winter temperatures always drop to at least 32F.  My tree shows no distress with near-freezing temperatures.  Coastal SF Bay Area or further south should be warm enough to support a Soursop's needs, though irrigation will be needed.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Group seed order from Brazil
« on: November 23, 2021, 09:40:43 PM »
Yes Lucís is the toughest of the bunch, and still a dioecious, 20 year total longshot for coastal nor cal.
Aichacharu is one of the tastiest Garciniaís, I enjoy them alot more than mangosteen, but Iíve killed them all multiple times.  quote author=Pedroboy link=topic=45745.msg445485#msg445485 date=1637692736]
One of the items on the inventory provided that interests me is Bacupari (G. Gardneriana).

Just wondering if anybody out there can render a verdict on both the adaptability and fruit quality of
Bacupari vs. Achachairu (G. Humilis). Among the usual list of Florida sellers - PIN, Everglades and  Plantogram, Achachairu is the one that's always offered.

I'm currently growing a handful of Luc's Garcinia in the shade of some canopy (but without special protection otherwise) here on the No. Central Calif. Coast without incident so far, and am curious to know if I can expect Luc's to be the toughest of the bunch. Thanks for any input.

G. gardneriana, bacupari, is native from the Amazon to the South of Brazil (zone 9), but not in coastal areas. (I'm not sure it's salt tolerant.) The fruit is bittersweet to sweet, ripening from May to July in the Northern hemisphere.

G. humilis, achachairu, is native to Bolivia and high deserts.  This could be a dry zone 9.  If you're more inland, this might work for you, though coastal fog may be a factor as is salt.  The flavor is sweet and lightly acidic, ripening June/July in the Northern hemisphere.

This info is from "Frutas no Brasil" by Harri Lorenzi, pp 213-215.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Group seed order from Brazil
« on: November 23, 2021, 02:50:32 PM »
Do you have any description for the many varieties offered, such as fruit to seed ratio, Brix/sweetness, fruit size, and precociousness? 

The 3 or 5 Gal Manila would be perfect, but my HD and Lowes don't have them.  Perhaps more coastal or Central Coast stores will have it.  I will call around Santa Cruz or Monterey and see if they have it.  I can drive there easily.  If anyone knows a store in Northern CA, please let me know.

I can't find a local source here.  I want to do some grafting and need rootstock.  Dwarfing roots would be preferred.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can anyone help identify this Annona?
« on: December 22, 2020, 12:39:51 PM »

Sorry that the birds got to it before I could pick it.

Inga sp. are common in Brazil and I have several trees growing in the wild.  They like our soil which is high in iron and slightly acidic.  Mine are in partial sun and do quite well.  Try to mimic their native environment.

I find snake fruit to be on par to roasted chestnuts.

My greenhouse is over clay and has a weed barrier with white pebbles.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry of the Rio Grande
« on: December 22, 2018, 05:25:25 PM »
Cherry of the Rio Grande comes from the South of Brazil (Zones 9-10) in semi-deciduous forests where organic matter and mulch helps.  These trees can grow up to 10 meters tall.  partial sun to full sun.  They are generally planted in native soil in Brazil, but since you put amendments it, it is likely working to build root structure.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SF Bay Area Tropical Fruit Experiment
« on: December 12, 2018, 01:38:33 AM »
Hey Joe.  Hawaii is amazing.  Just put it in the ground and it grows.  I was on Kauai, but I assume Hawaii is the same.  What part of the island are you thinking about?  BTW, I brought a Rosa mango back from Brazil and hope the early season can produce some fruit here.

Marc Doyle

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help jaboticaba losing foliage.
« on: November 11, 2018, 10:01:17 PM »
So long as it is watered well, it should recover, though I wouldn't fertilize it for a while. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: the best avocado to use for rootstock?
« on: August 05, 2018, 06:04:50 PM »
I have problems with root rot in a high rainfall area in the Atlantic Rainforest in Brazil.  Has anyone found a rootstock that is resistant to ARR and can tolerate wet feet at times?

Which has more resistance toward anthracnose?  I've heard Neelam has some resistance, but please correct me if I am wrong.

The Brazilian mango "Rosa" has a floral note without the piney flavor.  Too bad it is a bit fibrous, though not nearly as much as a TA.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 06, 2018, 08:26:42 PM »
How does Sugarloaf hold up to anthracnose and what is its fruiting season?  (Mid-season?)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Honda wood chipper ?.
« on: July 05, 2018, 04:18:49 PM »
Electric Trapp's in Brazil run on 220V 60Hz.  They also have electric.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Honda wood chipper ?.
« on: June 27, 2018, 10:31:30 PM »
Regarding the Trapp chippers in Brazil, the cheaper ones are underpowered and can't do more than 2".  There are commercial Trapp's that are much better, but they come at a price.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Florida Mangoes for Sale
« on: June 23, 2018, 05:32:20 PM »
Is it possible to send scions from FL to CA?

I just saw this posting and now I'm interested in finding more about it.  It looks like it may be a relative of the Bourbon vermelho (Red Bourbon), a flavorful mango, though it is very fibrous.  When I return to Brazil in October, I will see if I can find some to try.

Graft a Turpentine or Tommy Atkins to the branches near the property line.

You wrote:  "If one is unwilling to spray fungicide (and especially those living inland or in a rural setting, where humidity is higher), then only a handful of cultivars will produce well in those circumstances."

Which are the varieties that will produce in these circumstances, and can you tell me which are more top tier.  My trees are in the Brazilian rainforest and I have been struggling to keep fruit on my trees.

In Brazil, I see yields greatest with Jabuticaba SabarŠ, given that they have about 4 crops a year and are very productive and precocious.  I found agreement with this in the literature as well:
and though I can't find a quantitative yield per hectare. 

In Southern Brazil, I have many annonas in partial shade that do quite well.  Due to wind damage, we find that the protection of other trees are helpful.  We have high yields and sweet fruit.  Our climate is very different than in Manaus, which is very hot and humid year round.  Here we have cooler winters approaching freezing, and the trees do fine.

Good luck on your project.

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