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About neglected fruits that are worthwhile, there are hundreds, if not thousands. I think this is one reason we are all at it.  ;)  I think there are dozens, if not hundreds, that are also undiscovered fruits, ie totally unknown except by local inhabitants, not made it into any books, many even unnamed by botanists.

I completely agree Oscar - especially African fruits have been overlooked - and while many growers for example have a Bunchosia sp. in their collection, no one have ever tasted the numerous African fruits which are far superior in taste. Which remains me, another thread could be over-valuated fruits - Peanut Butter Fruit is surely one of them.!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone buy seeds from this website before?
« on: February 07, 2012, 03:12:16 AM »
Here they will just steal the packages that look too attractive or they arrive many months later (perhaps after a continental round-tour?). Very frustrating indeed. 

Anestor replied, will have to wait until it is ripe:

..... but the leaves seem to Annona cacans. However, the fruit does not seem to be, because the fruits of Annona cacans I've seen are as a rule, smoother and more conical. Well would expect the fruit to mature.

..... mas pelas folhas até parece Annona cacans. Todavia, pelo fruto, parece não ser, pois os frutos da Annona cacans que eu vi são, em regra, mais lisos e mais cônicos. Bom seria esperar o fruto amadurecer.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: February 06, 2012, 01:24:21 AM »
A bit disappointing. Had to delete all but one picture - I guess a smartphone does not deliver the best quality pictures. Anyway - this is a tree with some 15 big sized fruits, and there were very many trees in that area. The fruit has a pineapple-like taste.
Based on the size of the leafs, I estimate them to be 10cm which is one the high side.
Promised one of the guys living there some money to call me back when they are ripe for better pictures and hopefully seeds - towards end of March.
Again - sorry for the quality.

Thanks Oscar, will do.

Hi Sérgio, well - there are much confusion when it comes to some of those species - take a look at Helton's website; - this would rule out R. sylvatica. And the same picture you linked to can be seen here; - but now it is Rollinia emarginata.
However - I have not any literature on the Central- and South-American species, so it is not easy - and yes, I have already mailed Anestor as I know he grows A. cacans (

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: February 05, 2012, 09:51:50 AM »
Could also be on of the other species unless you know for sure? In Uganda we have at least two species.  Will post pictures of unripe fruits tomorrow when I get the pictures off my phone - just taken yesterday at Ssezibwa waterfall on Jinja road around 40min from Kampala.

True, but there are only two fruits. Not sure that is enough for the effect.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: February 04, 2012, 11:53:15 AM »
It would be great if the information from the yahoo group could be integrated here, I completely agree that it is very extensive, but this format is better. By the way, just encountered the biggest Giant Yellow Mulberry (Myrianthus holstii or M. arboreus) I have ever seen, and they were not even ripe yet. Will post pictures

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What tropical fruits impress normal people?
« on: February 03, 2012, 07:51:34 AM »
Well, there are more to fruit(tree)s than taste - many of the trees have beautiful flowers, foliage or fruit appearance which will impress most people. E.g. Dragon fruit, Pachira sp. many annonaceae etc. I guess that is the only real reason Cucumis metuliferus sells at all...

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds of Cordia africana
« on: February 03, 2012, 06:54:39 AM »
I have been mailing Telfairia sp. seeds before, but currently I don't have any.
The fruit of C. africana is yellow with sweet sticky pulp, it is considered second to C. sinensis.

I could use some help identify this Annona sp. from South-america. I believe it could be Annona cacans, but are not sure.

Bark, leaves and fruit in the center. The tree is easily vegetative propagated from root suckers.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: February 02, 2012, 01:07:56 AM »
I know it is mentioned as edible, but are not sure this is true (as raw) as it has not been listed in the literature I got for Ugandan fruits. Some years back I trading some seeds I thought was Balsamocitrus dawei, but as they produced unarmed seedlings it had to be another hard shelled citroid fruit tree, perhaps Balsamocitrus sp. Some of the members from the yahoo rare fruit group could have producing trees by now, which would make it easier for a final identification.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: February 01, 2012, 11:20:35 AM »
I know of Strychnos spinosa and S. innocua but have not tasted both. Seeds are not easy to get hold of, as they grow in the Northern Uganda away from Kampala.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Frequent Asked Questions (FAQ)
« on: February 01, 2012, 04:20:45 AM »
Can I suggest a:

5) What are the best websites on tropical fruits?

To me, a Google search does not always provide the best results as it often is the most "mainstream" answers.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tropical Fruit Books
« on: February 01, 2012, 03:33:02 AM »
Hi Oscar, the other book I have is this one - however, it might also not be available. There are several more species in this book, though some listed in the Ugandan edition are (of course) left out;

Useful trees and shrubs for Tanzania
identification, propagation, and management for agricultural and pastoral communities
L.P. Mbuya ... [et al.].
Published 1994 by Regional Soil Conservation Unit, Swedish International Development Authority in Nairobi, Kenya .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: February 01, 2012, 01:37:25 AM »
Others from Uganda includes (these I have not tasted);
Cordia millenii (seeds chewed).
Antiaris toxicaria
Piliostigma thonningii
Parkia biglobosa
Olea capensis
And the extreme rare Beilschmiedia ugandensis

...and the list goes on. In Tanzania, there are also several Annonaceae which are highly recommended for the taste.
If anyone is interested, I can recommend a couple of books (

Missed out that Anestor already have fruits on his Berchemia discolor - mine are not there yet  :o

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: February 01, 2012, 01:26:07 AM »
There are numerous African fruits and nuts - just here in Ugandan more than 100 different species, some of excellent flavor, others more of a famine food. To mention a few of the better I have tasted;
  • Berchemia discolor (date-like taste)
  • Canarium schweinfurthii (pulp has a nice olive-like taste)
  • Aframomum sp. (spicy passionfruit-like taste)
  • Telfairia pedata (nutty seed taste)

Others are also good like Carissa sp., Parinari sp., Saba comorensis and Balanites aegyptiaca, not to forget Cordia africana which is sold at the local markets (and of which I currently have seeds to trade). In addition, most fruit growers should be familiar with Vitalleria paradoxa, which has a commercial value (not to forget world famous coffee)!

Picture of Canarium schweinfurthii, slightly boiled and ready to eat.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tropical Fruit Books
« on: January 30, 2012, 03:14:51 AM »
For some of the many African species; I got this for Uganda and a similar book for the species in Tanzania, which includes several very rare annonacea;

Useful trees and shrubs for Uganda
identification, propagation, and management for agricultural and pastoral communities
A.B. Katende, Ann Birnie, and Bo Tengnäs.
Published 1995 by Regional Soil Conservation Unit in Nairobi, Kenya .

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Seeds of Cordia africana
« on: January 30, 2012, 02:23:06 AM »
I still have some seeds left of Cordia africana here from Uganda. A multipurpose species, with sweet fruits. Let me know if anyone is interested in a trade...

Seedlings of Cordia africana (large-leafed cordia)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: January 30, 2012, 02:20:20 AM »
Hi all,
Some of you might know me from yahoo rarefruit group where I have been a member for several years. Living in Kampala, Uganda and are cultivating rare tropical fruits. Always interested in trading seeds.

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