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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #550 on: May 17, 2023, 08:37:49 PM »
Yup, I bought a few containers of ladybugs and praying mantis to release in my fruit trees.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #551 on: May 17, 2023, 08:38:38 PM »
isn't that a ladybug?

HahaÖ Yes! The lady by population is incredible this year. Theyíre everywhere. Patrolling my Yangmei grafts for aphids. 👍🏼

You too? I have never seen this many lady bugs in the 10 years I've lived at the same spot. It's so cool to see them going to work!

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #552 on: May 20, 2023, 12:55:31 PM »
Ladybugs rock! Fun to do releases, and love it when wild ones pop up.

m. cerifera has proven fairly easy to root. Just left some cuttings in a jar with water. Need to be super fresh.





When I cut rootstock, trying to save the tips for new plants/future rootstock.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #553 on: May 20, 2023, 02:59:41 PM »
Wow, that's nice. I stuck my cuttings in pots and it seems they have some small leaf buds growing.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #554 on: June 07, 2023, 07:59:41 PM »
Iím telling you, these things are tough. I took some of my worst seedlings out of 3Ē pots and put them in the soil in my work garden. Though clearly showing signs of transplant stress, theyíre growing some new leaves inside that look ok.








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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #555 on: June 07, 2023, 11:10:35 PM »
I was just admiring my in ground seedlings today. From now on I'm going from 4" to in the ground with shade cages for the first year
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #556 on: June 07, 2023, 11:43:25 PM »
Wanted to say that after talking with many people and doing trials myself, I now come to the conclusion that yangmei will do well in zones 8 and up. Now I don't know the max though as chill hours seem to be required. I know many people who are hesitant to try yangmei down in south FL and PR as the lack of chill hours may be a problem. Now, there are many cultivars, so I think it's only a matter of time till we find one that does well in tropical climates.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #557 on: June 08, 2023, 12:01:34 AM »
Wanted to say that after talking with many people and doing trials myself, I now come to the conclusion that yangmei will do well in zones 8 and up. Now I don't know the max though as chill hours seem to be required. I know many people who are hesitant to try yangmei down in south FL and PR as the lack of chill hours may be a problem. Now, there are many cultivars, so I think it's only a matter of time till we find one that does well in tropical climates.
I'm getting seeds of a yangmei plant in hawaii that is self fruitful! Stoked!
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #558 on: June 08, 2023, 07:44:37 AM »
Wanted to say that after talking with many people and doing trials myself, I now come to the conclusion that yangmei will do well in zones 8 and up. Now I don't know the max though as chill hours seem to be required. I know many people who are hesitant to try yangmei down in south FL and PR as the lack of chill hours may be a problem. Now, there are many cultivars, so I think it's only a matter of time till we find one that does well in tropical climates.
I'm getting seeds of a yangmei plant in hawaii that is self fruitful! Stoked!

Are you sure itís yangmei or is it another species?

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #559 on: June 08, 2023, 06:17:45 PM »
Also wanted to say that various rootstocks could maybe influence cold tolerance too? Still pretty early though so we need to test.
If anyoneís looking, should have more trees ready in a month.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #560 on: June 27, 2023, 07:16:09 PM »
Planted 4 Yangmei cocktail trees on Californica rootstocks a week ago. It's looking happy so far. 3 of trees has Dongkui, Black Crystal and Late Growing grafted on it.










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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #561 on: June 28, 2023, 06:55:56 PM »





Not going to call it a win yet but this is promising on my yangmei x californica grafts.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #562 on: July 03, 2023, 10:27:23 PM »

Crystal graft on californica - jeez, gotta say this one looks pretty promising... But I will resist calling it a win yet.


Broke up a community pot some weeks back and threw the seedlings into FoxFarm Ocean Forest - they have that real fluffy white tomato type root. I have tried a few in ground with good success and this one was just calling to me to go in ground.


Seedling in ground with a campomanesia xanthocarpa for midday shade. This is probably one of the best planting areas on my entire property and used to house a Pierce cherimoya which died this cold winter.
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #563 on: July 04, 2023, 12:24:00 AM »
Everyoneís trees are looking great. Itís only a matter of time before our trees start fruiting. Keep up the great growing and keep the pictures coming!

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #564 on: July 04, 2023, 11:58:41 AM »
Kevin, congrats hope your grafts keep growing my grafts started out looking like they were going to grow with green little buds but then dried up haven't checked yet to see if scion is still green.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #565 on: July 06, 2023, 12:35:06 PM »
Wanted to say that after talking with many people and doing trials myself, I now come to the conclusion that yangmei will do well in zones 8 and up. Now I don't know the max though as chill hours seem to be required. I know many people who are hesitant to try yangmei down in south FL and PR as the lack of chill hours may be a problem. Now, there are many cultivars, so I think it's only a matter of time till we find one that does well in tropical climates.

Since yangmei is historically native to the Southern Chinese provinces of Guangdong and Guangxi, near Vietnam, and interestingly enough, those provinces also happen to be the native habitats of the venerable lychee! So what am I trying to get here? Since lychee trees are known to grow and fruit in some areas of South Florida, I think itís only a matter of time when yangmei will begin to adapt to the South Florida climate like their next door neighbor, the lychee...
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #566 on: July 07, 2023, 01:41:40 PM »

Very nice rootball for being in a community pot.


Another 9 yangmei seedlings


These were split from the last community pot maybe a month ago, very nice root growth


Put this one in the ground, it was just asking for it!
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #567 on: July 07, 2023, 06:47:32 PM »
K-Rimes,

Those seedlings look super healthy and I bet they will take off. Those will make excellent rootstocks and maybe we can even get lucky with some seedlings that produce excellent quality fruit.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #568 on: July 07, 2023, 09:31:53 PM »
Hereís a quick update on a few Yangmei I grafted onto M. Californica and Cerifera.

Dongkui grafted onto M Californica



Early self pollinating hermaphrodite grafted onto M Cerifera



An Hai grafted onto M Californica






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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #569 on: July 07, 2023, 09:38:22 PM »
Improved Biqi grafted onto Rubra seedling



White Honey grafted onto M Cerifera




Giant 8 inch leaves from an An Hai on Rubra rootstock from one of original group buys. The leaves are huge because half the tree is shaded by my sugarcane.



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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #570 on: July 07, 2023, 10:29:56 PM »
Improved Biqi grafted onto Rubra seedling



White Honey grafted onto M Cerifera




Giant 8 inch leaves from an An Hai on Rubra rootstock from one of original group buys. The leaves are huge because half the tree is shaded by my sugarcane.



Simon
Simon, do you know which an hai it is? I know thereís a hard and soft variant.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #571 on: July 08, 2023, 01:26:42 AM »
The scion from this one came from the original group buy and it was just labeled An Hai so Iím just calling this one An Hai. I have whatís called an Improved An Hai which is supposed to be slightly better quality but I wonít have confidence in any of these varieties until I have fruited them.

I am extremely upset at some of the farmers from the group buy because myself and many of my friends have purchased the trees only to find out that some of the trees, mostly males, were just seedlings. Some of the farmers may also have been selling varieties like Biqi and potentially labeling them as something else like Black Carbon or Big Black Carbon. We really wonít know for sure what we got from the group buys until we fruit them and that should be happening within the next couple of years.

Thereís also the whole issue with the Root Knot Nematodes.

I completely stopped planting any Yangmei plants originating from China because I noticed a general decline in the health of those trees compared to trees I grafted onto my own disease free rootstocks.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #572 on: July 08, 2023, 11:18:55 AM »
Simon, those are some beautiful grafted trees that you made congrats on successfully growing and grafting yangmei ;) 8)

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #573 on: July 08, 2023, 02:53:17 PM »
Thanks ScottR!

Hereís a Wandao grafted onto Cerifera rootstock.


And this is what happens if you donít prune your tree. This is a Biqi grafted onto M Californica. It grew to 5 feet in under one year. It should have been pruned much lower in order to form lower scaffold branches to make harvesting of fruit easier.



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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #574 on: July 08, 2023, 03:29:22 PM »
Nice job Simon, you should have YangMei fruits soon.  Those YangMei fruits are selling in weee are under ripen and not as juicy as they supposed be.

 

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