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I grow cacao instead of bicolor because I can find the seeds and fruit!!!  ;)
I'd love to grow others but can't get my hands on them. Seedlings from EBay are risky at best.


Seller 9waters on etsy is very reliable and currently carries seedlings:

Ugh, they are dioecious?  I didn't even realize

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this root rot on my lemon tree ?
« on: April 06, 2024, 03:43:58 PM »
It does look like root rot, yes

Bagged potting mix is often mostly peat moss which is extremely water retaining, and I believe coco coir is itself quite absorbent.  I suggest making chunky, minimally-absorbent material a significant portion of your potting mix.  Something like mulch, perlite, vermiculite, gravel, hydroton, turface, decomposed granite, etc.

The amount of roots lost is not too bad, your tree should recover and regrow new roots if it is otherwise healthy.  When I root prune my container trees I cut off about 25% of the rootball

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 05, 2024, 07:34:30 PM »
I highly recommend sumo, it has a permanent place in my greenhouse

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are these Eugenia species any good?
« on: April 05, 2024, 07:31:23 PM »
You can expect a ton of new taste reports this year or next.  Lots of new seeds available in past couple years that should be coming into fruit

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ODDS & SODS - PLANTS FOR SALE
« on: April 05, 2024, 08:58:33 AM »
Ah, ok cool, thanks

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 04, 2024, 09:15:33 PM »
Brian, that's a new one, never heard anyone have that issue with one fruit.

It happens all the time, too.  I wonder if it is just a milder symptom of whatever causes the puffiness issue, which also seems to affect one end of the fruit primarily

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 04, 2024, 08:26:22 PM »
12Zodiac, your sumo fruits look just like mine.  Except that weird twinned one.

I have noticed that the sweetness varies somewhat across even a single segment.  One end might be very sweet and the other bland.  Overall, they are really great though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guabiju and calycina pollination
« on: April 04, 2024, 08:13:47 PM »
Here's the thread from last year when I reported my Savannah Cherry (e. calycina) fruiting solo:   K-Rimes suggested it might be a COTRG + Calycina hybrid.  I don't know enough about them to tell.  Last year my COTRG wasn't yet flowering, the only Eugenias I had flowering were uniflora, pitangatuba, and this calycina.

The seeds from these fruit all sprouted, though I threw most of them away as this is a common variety. 

It is fruiting again right now with many fruitlets and some mature fruits already, and while this year I have been cross-pollinating all the eugenia flowers that are blooming at the same time this is still the only mature calycina, the rest are COTRG, uniflora, or others

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ODDS & SODS - PLANTS FOR SALE
« on: April 04, 2024, 04:10:53 PM »
Kevin is your Sweet Uvaia from Marcos' seeds?  I have a seedling from W. that he grow from Marcos' "pyriformis or lutescens" seeds.  Wondering if yours are the same or some other source.

Mine is far from fruiting, though my normal pyriformis just set flowers.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guabiju and calycina pollination
« on: April 04, 2024, 04:06:04 PM »
My solo calycina set fruit.  The seeds seemed normal and I have a couple of them growing new plants.

  I've never heard of guabiju, though, can't speak to that one.

I can't speak much to container soil, I am not even sure what my container soil is anymore it it contains recycled soil from years of repottings

By "flushing out" I assume Epicatt2 is talking about leaching -, using water to dissolve accumulated minerals in the container soil and remove them.

Even my in-ground, in-greenhouse rollinia looks a bit yellow in the winter.  It will bounce back to healthy green as it warms up and we get longer days.  Yours might also

Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: April 02, 2024, 08:02:58 PM »
sc4001992 I must say your tree is funny looking :)   The lemon really stands out from the FD base

I am surprised to see that my Lisbon lemon on FD is still reasonably vigorous, more than I expected.  Lemons really want to grow fast it seems.  I think it is still probably far more reserved than on its own roots or a typical lemon rootstock.

I grafted a few of them (in case the grafts failed), and I only need one.  This is the extra one if anyone wants it:
EDIT - tree is spoken for

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Using lousy tangelo as rootstock
« on: April 02, 2024, 07:42:55 PM »
Tropicaltoba isn't it likely that your minneola is itself grafted?  Do you know its rootstock?  I know you can have interstocks but I don't know much about their usage.

My in-ground light-green/dark-green variegated minneola produced poor fruit.  It was soft and watery and the tree was overly vigorous.  This one was from Harris Citrus, not sure what the rootstock is the label doesn't seem to say.  I removed it and prepared a replacement non-variegated minneola on flying dragon rootstock.  I am growing the new tree in a container for a few years and then putting it in the ground also, hoping for better results.  I have another containerized variegated minneola that produces decent fruit but I will probably go with the non-variegated type long term. 

Some of the best citrus I've ever tasted were minneola tangelos from the grocery store, but they seem to be very inconsistent.  I really don't want to give up on them yet.  Maybe if it is a poor producer for many years I will.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Uppotting a Moro Blood Orange
« on: April 02, 2024, 07:38:59 PM »
Yes, it would be unwise to move a tree directly from a small pot to a half barrel.  Do it slowly over time as the roots grow or you may have stagnant water issues and drown your new tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Some intersting fruits from Viet Nam
« on: April 01, 2024, 08:46:41 PM »
#1 looks like Mammea americana

I think so too

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning and/or staking young annona
« on: April 01, 2024, 08:36:13 PM »
I would stake the two main dropping branches into a Y shape.  They will harden as they grow and hold their shape.   And cut the right side lower branch that is right under the other one.  Not much use to have a branch directly underneath and parallel to another branch.  I'd cut that stubby top one also and let it by a Y shape

I don't think you actually need to remove the shell, the idea is to crack it enough to let water in more easily.

I have a Bruce canistel and I really like it, that is a good choice if you find one.  I am looking forward to trying the fruit on my Ross Sapote soon to compare, it just started flowering.

The name, most likely. People want to grow chocolate and thats the one with the name.  If the genus was cacao and it was 'cacao cacao' and 'cacao mocambo (bicolor)' I bet the others would be more popular.

I have a cacao for exactly this reason, I didn't even know about the other types until long after I got it.  I have tried a raw cacao pod and its seeds and pulp and I agree neither are very palatable.  I got for the novelty of "Can I grow a chocolate tree?"

Does bicolor require hand pollination?  That is a huge negative I found out about cacao after I got one

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees in tall pots
« on: March 28, 2024, 09:08:24 AM »
I always hear that Garcinias benefit from it because they have long fragile taproots and not many lateral branches.  These are the only plants I keep in tall pots, everything else I try to go wider than tall.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marang on Jackfruit
« on: March 27, 2024, 09:02:16 PM »
Hah, impressive to see a graft right into the trunk of such a large tree.  I hope your graft takes and you get a super strong growing marang out of it

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: March 27, 2024, 08:53:54 PM »
Interesting, I have never found a single seed in my sumo fruits.  However, the tree is in a greenhouse so it doesn't get much if any pollination.  I noticed that my in-ground Fukushu kumquat also was totally seedless some years, but not every year

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: March 27, 2024, 06:57:05 PM »
My in-ground sumo makes huge fruit, grapefruit sized, and with prominent neck.  My minneolas have been variable, one was in ground one in container. 

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