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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weird nectarine growth
« on: May 20, 2025, 08:16:10 PM »
It should flush out soon.  I would just leave it be.

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I have a very dwarf lychee tree that is not one other people have and it fruits very heavy on a very small tree.  It would be a good one to grow.  It came from ONG and I believe it may be a seedling of emporer or something similar that he got from China. You could probably get a tree if you go to san diego or get someone to buy one.  Mark Lee may know if they have more of them available. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weird nectarine growth
« on: May 18, 2025, 11:51:22 PM »
Is it a dave wilson tree?  Nemaguard rootstock or something else?  I have goos results with all the dave wilson nemaguard trees.  The citation trees are a different story. 

Also, I think snow queen was one of the 300ish hour trees.  You may just not get enough chill there for it to set well.  You probably get a bit less chill than me.  It doesnt freeze here but it does get a decent amount of 40-50F

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weird nectarine growth
« on: May 18, 2025, 03:20:39 PM »
It has always set a ton of fruit but I dont know if it will this year because of all the cool and wet weather.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weird nectarine growth
« on: May 17, 2025, 08:55:45 PM »
Picture from yesterday. It’s a low chill Snow Queen variety and we average high 30s to mid 40s for at least a month. I’m in south Sandy Eggo near the 54 and 805.

Snow queen flowers and sets feuit later than all the ithers.  My tree does it every year. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weird nectarine growth
« on: May 16, 2025, 05:12:12 PM »
Its just the weather has been so cool this year.  Bad year for peaches and nectarine.  Everything is behind schedule. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to harvest Blue Java Banana?
« on: May 16, 2025, 05:09:56 PM »
Wait until some of them start turning yellow.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seed starting mix
« on: May 16, 2025, 12:17:56 AM »
What do you do once you have seedlings sprout?? Do you leave them in that mix till they develop the true leaves?

Yes, as soon as they have a couple true leaves I move them to my normal soil.  The only issue I've seen was a batch of capsicum pepper seeds stalled after sprouting and never got their true leaves, then eventually all yellowed and died.  I wonder if this could be an issue with any tiny seeds because the coir has no nutrients.  The tropical seeds have been fine in it.  Could be a bad batch of pepper seeds too, they are ones I had in dried fruits from prior year.

Yes you need fertilizer right away or that will happen.  Use quarter strength liquid nutrient on them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seed starting mix
« on: May 14, 2025, 12:48:46 PM »
I start everything in regular potting soil.  And I grow a lot of stuff from seeds.  Seems to work fine. 

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How many hours of sun is the spot getting?  Your own house and the house to the south of yours must throw some shade in the morning or until after noon?

I dont think the wind is a big deal.  Im sure there is more wind where Im at up high fully exposed on a hill.  Trees dont seem to care much about that. 

Im thinking not enough sunshine.  Mangos and most of those things you listed like all day sun or at least all day filtered sun.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya leaves
« on: May 07, 2025, 05:21:08 PM »
It just started flushing.  Wait a month.  Mine are the same.

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which direction does the house face?

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Oh we don't have that one because the chart said it needs more chill than the others.  But maybe I can top work it and try it.  My wife wont let me get rid of the apricots.

Yes the dirt is good here.  Theres about a foot of DG that you can dig into followed by 640+ of feet of solid granite.

That first foot is the good stuff though.   

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Brad, they are in the ground.

Oh I appologize, my reading comprehension skills are lacking and my eye sight is failing me.  I will go sit in the truck now.
Haha, no need to apologize. I do grow a lot of trees in container. I don’t have much luck with plums/pluots. 3 years ago I removed a 4x1 pluots, after 6 years in the ground, they produce zero fruit except the first year, that also gave me hope that they would eventually fruit for me. Maybe my soil is not good. The builder broughtthe soil from somewhere.

Strange.  You will hate me but the 4 in 1 fruits so hard the branches break here. 

The only ones that dont make much fruit for me are apricots.  I get some but mostly just huge trees with little fruit.

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Brad, they are in the ground.

Oh I appologize, my reading comprehension skills are lacking and my eye sight is failing me.  I will go sit in the truck now.


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Are all your trees in pots?

I have the 2 low chill pluerry and they both fruit like crazy.  I think the issue could be growing these trees in pots.  They are big trees, not that suitable for container growing IMO.

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I kind of feel like Brokaw and the UC people are like Pfizer.  You (or your trees) need their product to stay healthy.  All the studies and science say so.  Sounds great so lets all do what the experts say and use their patented products so they can make $$$. 

But I may be way off the mark here.  Im probably just way too cynical. 

Anyway I put some in the ground and will give it an honest shot.  If they perform better I will definitely let that be known. 

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Crazy, cherry trees are definitely difficult to grow. I’ve read that JamesN from GF killed all his cherry trees when he first started growing cherry, this is why I went out of my way and purchased some topsoil from Gary. I still have 5 cherry trees, but they might die in the future.

I have 15 cherry trees.  Never did anything special for them.  Just pop them in a hole in the ground and water it and mulch and they grow really easily.  i always plant them from bare root in January and do the mulch and light fertilizer the first year then they are off and care free.  Its the most vigorous trees I have.  The reason I planted so many was because they grow so easily and vigorous, I put them in my chicken area to provide shade and figure the wild birds and my chickens can eat all they want I don't even care.  They are just there for shade. 

If you look at cherry groves in northern CA they are in flat ground in the central valley with clay soil and flood irrigation.  Using sand mix like top pot that has no organic matter and drains so easily is probably not what you want for a cherry but that is just my guess.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I’m an idiot
« on: May 04, 2025, 01:24:20 PM »
maybe in a greenhouse in UK.  I think grumichama took 7 years to fruit for me in San Diego. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I’m an idiot
« on: May 04, 2025, 11:45:24 AM »
Does grumachama grow in the UK?  Im thinking more than 7 years. 

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I installed 10 hass avocado trees on clonal rootstock to do my own comparison vs all my other trees on zutano rootstock.  Too soon to say if they will perform better.  I have 7 Dusa trees and 3 salt tolerant Israeli rootstock.  It will be 3 or 4 years before I canndraw any kind of conclusions.  They have been there a couple years so far and basically look the same as all my other trees of the same age. 

Im a bit skeptical that they will perform much better than zutano seeds but time will tell.  If anything at least in theory they should be more consistent.  That said, unless you are planting hundreds of trees for commercial I think its a bit overkill. 

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Looks like it

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plums in socal
« on: April 30, 2025, 08:37:51 PM »
It seems too early.  My cherries are not even ready yet. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning cherimoya
« on: April 27, 2025, 12:54:27 PM »
Mine weren't as extreme as LillyPilly describes, but basically it would just grow long windy limbs with no branching.  I think I need to cut every branch once it reaches 2ft long to get a decent shape.

Yes you need to cut at 18" then you will get a nice bush shape. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: April 27, 2025, 12:40:24 PM »
Did this avocado taste test today.  Sharwil left, santa clara gold right.  Made guacamole out of both and did a side by side test.  I have to the say the santa clara gold was super good.  Sharwil also super good.  The sharwil may have needed more time on the tree.  And this sharwil had some slight imperfections in the flesh.  The santa clara gold was a lot more dense and wins based on looks.  I like the texture better on the sc gold.  Flavor wise I think sharwil has more nuttyness.  It was a toss up between the family members here.  Half of us preferred sharwil, half preferred sc gold. 

I would take either of these over anything the UC system ever released.

Good looking Cados, How does the Sc Gold tree compare to the Sharwil?






I dont know yet.  Only have 1 small sc gold tree.  So far nothing special with the tree.  Seems like maybe not as heat tolerant as sharwil but it looks OK so far. 

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