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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: April 25, 2025, 06:02:41 PM »
The best part about avocado trees is you can chop them down and change the variety if some are not perfoeming foe you. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: April 25, 2025, 02:45:02 PM »
Nabal vs reed, who wins & why?

Reed seems to be the better variety.  Nabal trees are a bit spreading and get sun damage a lot easier than reed.  And reed seems a lot more productive for me at least.  Im going to top work all my Nabal trees because they don't put out well and tree doesnt take the weather here. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: April 22, 2025, 08:37:56 PM »
Check out this seedling mango.  Not sure which kind it is but the mangos are 2.5lbs.  I thought it was a spirit of 76 seed maybe but I looked those up and it says regular size fruit. 







Brad, how did that colorful, monster mango taste?  Was it a winner 🥇?

Nothing special.  I started stumping a bunch of large seedling trees and willtop work with sweet tart. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: For Sale: Avocado sample box
« on: April 22, 2025, 06:47:34 PM »
Glad you enjoyed them.  If the hass had an off flavor it was over ripe.  Its odd because its still in season.  Usually they dont start tasting off until June. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: April 22, 2025, 04:19:47 PM »
You just have to try them all and see what you like.  Just because I didnt like a particular one does not mean you also will not.  Your weather is a lot more mild and results will vary.

If you post pics of the reed and sharwil I could see if its really reed.  The sharwil is pretty nutty and rich, never got a sweet flavor from them. 


What I found with all this stuff is you really only need the top few best of each type of tree to be happy.  A couple excellent avocsdo varieties.  A couple top dragonfruit.  Top mangos....  having 100different kinds is kind of pointless if the top 2 or 3 crush the others.  The others may as well be replaced with the good ones.  Thats what I am in the process of doing with my avocado and mango trees and some cherimoyas also.  Top work it, grow only the best ones.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 19, 2025, 12:55:16 PM »
Sharwill totally could be commercial. Main issue is it doesn't turn black like hass and doesn't have extended growing season. Otherwise very very productive tasty and not alternate bearing.

Pinkerton still my favorite. Very productive, nor alternate bearing, very strong nutty flavor. Unfortunately it has a short season. Mature trees make bigger fruit, can be alsmot the size of a banana. One potential issue with it is that it flowers easily, so it can actually fruit in fall, meaning that by spring when it is time to pick fruit you might not be able to easily tell apart the mature fruit from the second immature crop.

I'm surprised you say sharwil and Pinkerton don't alternate.  Mine seem to.  Actually I haven't seen any type of avocado not alternate after a really heavy crop.  Only one so far is maybe zutano. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 19, 2025, 12:26:40 PM »
Was the Super Hass uniformly ripe? That was a big problem with my last crop.

Yes, it was uniformly ripe.  I have a few more on the tree and will let it hang more.  I think it is probably going in the chipper though.  Nothing really noteable about it here since we can grow regular Hass.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 17, 2025, 10:48:27 PM »
You could always try.  Seems odd no one else has given it a go.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 17, 2025, 09:29:36 PM »
Love this post thanks! Look forward to the SCG maybe you can toss a Pinkerton in that review too.

Are you growing and Reeds? I’m still tossed on grabbing a-Reed b-Carmen Hass or c-hass. I have a pinker and gem so want something around when those aren’t. Recommendations?


Go for Reed.  Yes I have a lot of Reed trees.

Of course I’d do the Sharwil but you said it don’t do good up here in colder winters. Reed it will be thanks! I heard Reed set flowers later on when it warms up too.

I never said sharwil don't do good up there.  I have no idea if it will or not.  It is a type B and may be affected by the colder morning time temps possibly.  But I have no evidence either way. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 17, 2025, 08:05:49 PM »
Love this post thanks! Look forward to the SCG maybe you can toss a Pinkerton in that review too.

Are you growing and Reeds? I’m still tossed on grabbing a-Reed b-Carmen Hass or c-hass. I have a pinker and gem so want something around when those aren’t. Recommendations?

Go for Reed.  Yes I have a lot of Reed trees. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 17, 2025, 06:11:19 PM »
Reed is the best late summer for CA growers.  No doubt.

Pinkerton is hit and miss.  At first it seemed good but now my 10 year old trees are small and sometimes the fruit don't ripen well after picking.  But I may be waiting too long.  Sharwil is the same season and I prefer it or Hass over Pinkerton.
Do you think Sharwil could be grown commercially in CA?  Not at major scale, but for a niche, boutique market?

Sure why not.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 17, 2025, 05:23:56 PM »
I just cut a pinkerton and put next to the super hass.  The pinkerton has a really nice strong flavor and high oil.  It is a good fruit you are right Johnny. 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 17, 2025, 04:49:01 PM »
Reed is the best late summer for CA growers.  No doubt.

Pinkerton is hit and miss.  At first it seemed good but now my 10 year old trees are small and sometimes the fruit don't ripen well after picking.  But I may be waiting too long.  Sharwil is the same season and I prefer it or Hass over Pinkerton. 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 17, 2025, 02:30:31 PM »
Spoiler alert.

The SC gold has good oil content but no flavor.

But I will cut some fruit and do a fair side by side compare in a week or 2.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado taste off
« on: April 17, 2025, 02:05:58 PM »
I have some other oddball avocados I may do this with if anyone cares.  Santa Clara gold seems to be the most hyped up avocado now.  I will put it against Hass and sharwil also. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado taste off
« on: April 17, 2025, 02:02:03 PM »
Someone here gave/traded me some "super hass" avocados scion wood a few years ago.  Thank you whoever it was.  I have forgotten who from FL sent these.  And now we have fruit.  So I did the pepsi challenge with it against original hass and sharwil. 

Left to right is Sharwil, Hass, Super Hass.



There are no lighting tricks, the sharwil has the most colorful flesh and super hass is the most pale.  Taste wise, the 2 hass fruit are almost identical.  Slight edge goes to regular hass.  But Sharwil still killed them both with better looking flesh and better tasting and more oil.  Also the skin of the super hass is pretty thin and ends up in the flesh when cutting with a serrated knife.  I can see why the super hass is popular in places that cant grow regular hass.  They taste the same.  Overall its good but not great.  Just my opinion. 

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If potassium sulfate is produced naturally then it is accepted for organic.  We can easily get that here in CR.
Peter

It's not natural but langbeinite is. 

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You already know but salt index has nothing to do with "organic".  Organic just means occurs in nature.

If you want to use potassium sulfate go for it.  If you want to be organic use 0-0-22 langbeinite (sul-po-mag).

I agree, small amount of synthetic should not be a big deal.  Do whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

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I sent him a text and he said

"Oh shit I forgot".

So he should get back to you. 

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I have his number and will call later today. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pinkerton Avocado ID
« on: April 11, 2025, 08:13:40 PM »
I didn't see any on either of my pinkertons. But who knows.  Probably have to let it go and figure it out when it fruits.



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: For Sale: Avocado sample box
« on: April 10, 2025, 08:21:05 PM »
No only Hass get really black.  Just give it the squeeze test.  Be patient.  Let it get soft, they wont spoil if you go an extra day like store fruit. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: For Sale: Avocado sample box
« on: April 10, 2025, 05:56:54 PM »
I shipped all remaining orders this week.

Still have a ton of Sharwils if anyone wants a box. 

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Maybe in FL large trees can get deep enough roots to hit ground water but not the case in CA.  Big tree needs more irrigation here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Minimum temps for avocado grafting?
« on: April 09, 2025, 11:27:32 AM »
Yes.

It would have been better sooner.  Those temps are quite warm. 

As long as it is above 0c you are good.

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