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They are selling the latest red skin pines for 395$ at melissas.  Seems reasonable...
https://www.melissas.com/products/rubyglow-pineapples



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 18, 2024, 02:55:35 PM »
I noticed a lot of the grow reports to be Spaugh to be partially true for me. He mentions uneven ripening which is a symptom of not optimal climatic conditions. Lack of humidity or excessive heat and sun can cause this.

Avocados adapted mainly from subtropical highlands more arid and desert conditions are going to impair quality of fruit and growing. Which Spaugh mentions some in previous posts.

Information is great that Spaugh reports, but don't write off certain avocados from a bad grow report that doesn't match climatic conditions of one's situation.

Which ones in particular?

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Could be San Pedro, looks more like that to me personally

Not san pedro.  San pedro also has less spine and lighter green blue color. 

Its just a common cactus plant.  Theres a millions kinds of these thorny cactus like this that all look similar.

They all flower and make little fruits that look the same inside.  But most of the fruits are not worth eating. 

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It must be nice to be able to use a mower.  Thats like cheating. 

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The thorns look too big to be apple cactus. 

All cactus make large blooms and fruit but most of the fruit are small and flavorless like white dragonfruit. 

I could be wrong though.  The peruvian i have has much less thorns.  There may be more than one type though. 

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I used a lot of eucalyptus and never saw problems.  I usually let it sit for several months though before using it.  When it is really fresh and smells you can let it sit and cook for a while and it mellows out. 

Jason, I watched all your videos and was thinking too that you need more mulch.  I know it has made a huge difference with my stuff.  Yes it is a huge pain to put out but it really does help a lot. 

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Whats special about it?

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Prickly pear is super invasive and will take over whole mountain sides.


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When La Verne Nursery in Southern California started selling Sharwil avocado trees to retail nurseries around five years ago, I heard some people doubting they were Sharwil. I saw photos of these trees and they didn't look like Sharwils to me either.

I forgot about this until a few days ago when I visited a yard with a "Sharwil" tree that had been grown by La Verne in 2022. The tree was unquestionably not a Sharwil. It had an A-type flowering schedule and the leaves, stems, and branches all looked unlike any Sharwil I've ever seen. But what was it? Out of the varieties I know, it looked most like Jan Boyce.

Does anyone else have a tree they bought labeled as Sharwil in the past five years or so that had been grown by La Verne? Has it fruited? Which variety is it actually?

I posted a photo of the tag that went on all these trees.

By the way, I contacted La Verne, which is now owned by Everde, and was told that the manager who might have known about this topic no longer worked there, unfortunately.


I bought a Sharwil from a nursery in Fallbrook, and it had the exact same tag as one labeled 'La Verne.' showing in your post.  Now, I worry that it might not be the real Sharwil.    You've given me doubts, making me feel like this child might not be mine :-)

On the other hand, it's possible that mine is the genuine Sharwil. Because while I was repotting it, I found another tag buried deep inside near the roots, clearly stating 'Sharwil.

I guess I have to wait until it bears fruit to see if it is real or not.

I think they have corrected their problem a few years ago.  The trees i saw at the store a year or 2 ago looked good. 

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Legend has it that la verne sharwils were actually jan boyce from what I saw from discussions on the faceborg group.

Not surprising at all, la verne mislabeled everything.  They don't even seem to try and get it right. 

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Oh my god, lol.

No I do not have any sharwil trees from la verne.

Jesus.

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Thats really odd Mark.  I am having a hard time identifying that avocado.  Those have been on the tree a year?  I doesn't really look like any kind of avocado I am growing.   Maybe let them go longer and try again in a couple months. 

It kind of looks like sharwil but i have not see them turn dark like that. 

Its not one of those oro negro or tex mex trees you had going before?

Don't remember how long they've been on exactly, probably about 6 months or so.  I have one lower branch of Oro Negro and that avocado is pretty much round, not pear shaped.  No Tex Mex, yech. 

Since the branches are very thick looks like I need to stub them and graft to the shoots that push.  Done that a lot with avocados and mangos thanks to freezes (heating failures) years ago.  FWIW, did it with a peach tree that was very heavy bearing, 25' W X 12' T.  One of the 5 varieties was apricot....but I digress.
 




Before you go and chop it down, you can try to verify what it is with the new growth.  Sharwil new growth has red speckling on the wood when the tree flushes.  If you are sure it was sharwil wood that I sent then it is sharwil wood.  I would not have mixed it up. 

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Thats really odd Mark.  I am having a hard time identifying that avocado.  Those have been on the tree a year?  I doesn't really look like any kind of avocado I am growing.   Maybe let them go longer and try again in a couple months. 

It kind of looks like sharwil but i have not see them turn dark like that. 

Its not one of those oro negro or tex mex trees you had going before?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: May 10, 2024, 10:29:43 AM »
Here's a new one to me.  Whitsell avocado that Patrick Buddyroo sent me the scion in a birthday card a couple years ago.  It's pretty good.  Similar to Hass.  Its related to Hass somehow.  I would have to go back nd read the history to remember exact lineage.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: May 10, 2024, 10:22:12 AM »
Orkine, sorry to see that, it looks like it will die.

Brad, how is the taste of the Hellen avocado fruits? I just bought another small, grafted plant and was thinking of grafting it on my larger tree if it tastes very good, otherwise I might just give the plant away.

I have a seedling Marcus Pumpkn that was given to me. It is the tallest and healthiest seedling avocado I have seen. The person who gave me the seedling has it in a 1-gallon pot and it stand close to 6 feet tall (wow). Fruit from the mother tree tastes very good as well.

Hellen is supposed to be excellent but I have not gotten a really good oily one yet.  Thry seem to drop from my tree late summer before ever getting where I want it.  But maybe this will be the year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Tape
« on: May 09, 2024, 05:23:18 PM »
The texas flagging tape does not replace parafilm.  Its for tightening the joint not for covering the scions.  You still need to use parfilm or buddy tape on the scion. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: AeAe flowering
« on: May 09, 2024, 03:05:08 PM »
How far is your place from the mall in escondido?  I drop my kids off at school near there a couple days a week.

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If it came from me, it is the real sharwil.  I started with 1 tree and have made like 100 clones off it now and have a field of them.  Im positive they are sharwils.

OK, thanks.  Pulled 2 black ones yesterday.   Refresh my memory, aren't they supposed to turn black on the tree?  I don't remember what the drill was with my original, old tree back in 2012.

No they are way over ripe if its turning black.  Sharwil doesn't turn black.  Can you post a pic of the fruit or the tree? 

I am surprised thry are not dropping from the tree if they are really turning black.  Sounds weird.  Maybe it isn't sharwil.

Sharwil would not hold this long in your GH i think.  You should be getting very nice sharwils by February there. 

Here's a sharwil picked yesterday it is totally green


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: AeAe flowering
« on: May 09, 2024, 01:21:32 AM »
If the fruit are in the sun, you should consider putting some sort of shade cloth over them.  70% aluminet scraps pieces about 2'x2' work well.  If falbrook were closer, I would give you a piece. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: AeAe flowering
« on: May 09, 2024, 12:24:41 AM »
Nice timing, those should be ready before winter comes

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Maybe try pulling the sharwils sooner?  They are falling off the trees here in April.

So maybe Jan or February in you GH.

I have a good one called fujikawa that I can send in winter.  Also one called santa clara gold.

Trees are flushing and theres no good budwood now. 

As far as the ones you mentioned in this thread, they looked pretty mediocre from Kaz's post, but you can check it out and decide. I would go for something better to be honest.  Sorry Kaz.

To be honest with you I'm not sure I've got the real Sharwil.   Sure doesn't look like the original I got from MaryLu's budwood I got in 2012.   That was perfect fruit and tree culture. Also froze. I've got all kinds of safeguards in now, no freezing issues now with alarms, back up heaters, etc. 

I remember the fujikawa you mentioned years ago.  Might hit you up for that, thanks!

If it came from me, it is the real sharwil.  I started with 1 tree and have made like 100 clones off it now and have a field of them.  Im positive they are sharwils.

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Maybe try pulling the sharwils sooner?  They are falling off the trees here in April.

So maybe Jan or February in you GH.

I have a good one called fujikawa that I can send in winter.  Also one called santa clara gold.

Trees are flushing and theres no good budwood now. 

As far as the ones you mentioned in this thread, they looked pretty mediocre from Kaz's post, but you can check it out and decide. I would go for something better to be honest.  Sorry Kaz. 

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Mark, search here, Kaz has pics and a long thread.

Have not seen you around in a while... 

Dis you get some sharwil grafts growing?  I think it is better than pinkerton. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: outsourcing fruit selling?
« on: May 08, 2024, 01:46:43 PM »
my house is too far off the beaten path to do much business here.

There is a member here that does go to farms and harvest avocados and sells them online for the farmers.  He has taken some of my stuff.  It is a good way to move some avocados.  It is basically outsourcing the advertising and shipping to him.  It seems like he has a pretty good customer base. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Pineapple Nanas Paun Giant
« on: May 08, 2024, 12:36:55 AM »
Do you guys really want these that bad?  I have some small slips if you really want them, send me a message.

Someone in Florida asked me a few months ago but I cant remember who it was.  Resend a message if you read this.

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