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I have an ultra dwarf banana that tastes like apple and very sweet.  I can send a pup if you want one.  They fruit at about 4-5ft tall and would be easy to protect.  Its my best banana plant and I have tried many. 

Send me a message if you want one. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: AeAe flowering
« on: July 16, 2024, 09:11:10 PM »
Coming along....I wouldn't say its a particularly fast grower but the fruit look cool!

Thats looking really bitching.  Congrats. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: AeAe flowering
« on: July 16, 2024, 06:41:07 PM »
How are the bananas coming?  I got a rack going on mine now too.  They are may e a month behind yours. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: July 15, 2024, 08:05:29 PM »
Its a good one. 

Better to plant it in the ground.  Sitting in a pot is not what will make it get big.  Atemoya is not like a sensitive plant that must be babied. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / dead?
« on: July 15, 2024, 12:23:45 AM »
Is the banana forum still alive?  I am unable to open the site for some reason. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this an avocado root sucker?
« on: July 14, 2024, 09:09:45 PM »
The old growth that came on the tree is often stunted. Those new shoots are what you should keep and get rid of the old stuff if it is all above the graft.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: July 13, 2024, 03:14:23 PM »
There will be tons of shoots in 3 months.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pink Pineapple - NON GMO
« on: July 13, 2024, 11:43:30 AM »
Very nice

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: July 13, 2024, 11:34:08 AM »
My first Nimlioh fruit.  It weighed 2lbs exactly.  The thing is huge.  Tasty too.  Very good eating.  Heres it compared to a hass for size comparison.

The other thing you could do is buy a pool test kit with the drops and test the chlorine level.  Then tell the pool dude to keep it at 2ppm or just get rid of him and do it yourself.  It really is easy to check and adjust.  I have a salt pool and it stays where it needs to be automatically. But if it gets low and I want to get it up where it needs to be after a party or whatever, its easy to use the drops and test a sample and add a splash of liquid chlorine. 

You can also test your stabilizer level.  If that is good, you should not need a ton of chlorine.  Thats what keeps your chlorine from evaporating too quickly.   

What is the exact reason you want the pool gone? You are worried about the fruit trees getting chlorine water?

Unfortunately I went out to pay my pool guy over a month ago and there was a strong smell of chlorine and it burned my throat and lungs.  I'm still dealing with the same symptoms - cough, sharp sore throat, shortness of breath.  This happened once before like 7 years ago when the prior pool guy I had shocked the pool and I went outside (unknowing) but I did get better quickly then.  I don't want to live my life being afraid to go into my yard to enjoy my trees.  I like swimming and water so it's really the chemicals that are the problem for me.  We rarely use the pool even before this incident because my daughter comes out smelling like chlorine, etc.

Switch it to a salt pool?  It just makes a small amount of chlorine all the time the pool is running and never gets too high like liquid chlorine.  You cant smell it or anything like that. 

What is the exact reason you want the pool gone? You are worried about the fruit trees getting chlorine water?

Earth is a jewel of the solar system, painted blue by the vast oceans that hold the majority of our planetís wateróor so we thought. Most of Earthís water, according to a new study, may actually be locked in a reservoir 400 miles underground.

That Earth, for much of its history, has been covered by water isnít much of surprise. But how so much water ended up on a planet that, at its birth, was boiling hot has puzzled scientists for decades. Previous theories had assumed that Earth had picked up its water when it collided violently with icy comets and asteroids. But an alternate hypothesis just received a boost courtesy of a new study published in Science : Earthís water may have been here all along, oozing out gradually as rock deep in the crust was pressed by the intense heat and pressure below the surface.

Once this makes sense to you then go look into primary water.  Theres likely unlimited supply of water in certain geologic sites.  This requires an entire paradigm shift from most peoples current understanding or lack of about the hydrologic cycle.

Its like telling people the earth isn't flat.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: July 11, 2024, 03:30:46 PM »
Both of them seem to fruit ok.  Thry are both good.  Probably murashige is better tasting.  They just are not as good as hass, sharwil, gwen, reed.  Hard to beat those ones.  The murashige are too big and flavor is kind of 1 dimensional.  It does get good oil but the flavor is kind of plain.  I guess you would have to try it. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: July 11, 2024, 12:37:43 AM »
Yes subtropica is the nursery mine were from.  Honestly their trees kind of not very healthy but maybe you will get something better.  His trees seem not very acclimated to sun.  The place with the best trees is Clausen's but theirs are on zutano seedling.

Hey Brad,

Thanks for the suggestion I got a couple of orange trees from clausens some years ago and they are doing well Iíll hit them up to see what they have. The lamb I got from subtropica didnít seem to have issues with the sun but itís only a couple miles from the beach. Maybe the trees are having issues because they are sending them straight from a green house without hardening them off.

The trees I got feom subtropica were in grow bags with some kinds of airy soil mix.  It look like they had to water them constantly and the roots were rotting.  And these were all clonal rootstocks.  I bought 10 trees and 3 or 4 died.  The rest took 2 years to fianlly start growing.  I had to remove all the hardened off growth from the nursery (basically lopped the trees off above the graft) to finally get them to spring some new soft and start taking off.  The original growth from the nursery was all in a bad state that would not grow. 

The trees at clausens come in grow bag with native DG, not a soil blend like peat or whatever subtropica is using.  The clausens trees I got never had any issues.  But that was a long time ago and who knows what current stock is like.

A couple of my clausen reeds are stellar examples. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: July 11, 2024, 12:19:10 AM »
This is just a hypothesis that may be incorrect but I think some trees just get stunted from fruiting hard in the first year or 2 at a small size.  And reed gets hit harder than others too because it fruits later.  The fruit set on a small reed tree can be heavy and because they fruit late they get hit by summer before the tree can flush new leaves and then gets stunted.  Its maybe not such an issue near the beach where its not as hot. 

I have decided to start letting my in ground rootstocks get really large like 10ft+ tall before doing top working.  I am getting better results on top working larger trees.  I know almost no one else is doing it this way but I feel like these heavy fruiters just dont do well when grafted so small.

I did top work 8 nabal trees and the nabal is unique since it will not flower and set fruit until it gets much larger.  And I have not had any of those trees get messed up.  They can get a little messed up if they do fruit hard but because the trees are quite large by that point, I have not yet seen any get stunted and need to be replaced yet. 

If you look at avocado trees that fruit from seed naturally, they usually get pretty big first.  So it seems appropriate to let the rootstock grow to that size first then top work.  This also allows the tree to grow rapidly the first summer without any flowering.  I am pretty sure this is the optimal way to grow trees out.  Plant the seed, wait 3-5 years, top work it.  Get fruit set 1 year after top working.

Not sure if this is what is going with my Reed but definitely sounds like it could be. Speaking of top working trees I have an 8 year old holiday that would like to top work. The tree has never produced much and the fruit is a little too big. When would you recommend top working? And would you have any bud wood available?

Hello, I also top worked a mature holiday.  It actually got pretty big and made fruit but not many and they were not as good as reed.  Also too big yes.  I put sharwil on it. 

The way to top work is lop it off now to a 1ft stump and paint it white.  It will grow new growth that will be ready for grafting in mid december.  Thats when I post scion wood for sale and thats when I do all my avocado grafts with very high take rates. 

Y'know, I've said this before but it seems as if some parts of the country have a huge surplus of rainwater at times, most notably the southeast and it's either dumped in the ocean or gulf of Mexico.

Given the enormous public works projects in the past I would think that another one for recovering and piping this water for agricultural uses to the west would be a desirable way to put folks to work and save ground and other clear water for potable uses.

Yeah filtering debris, fish etc. would be an issue but C'mon the west has desperate need of water and dumping it makes no sense. 


Probably cheaper to do desalination.  Or just drill some wells under the sierras. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado leave infection
« on: July 09, 2024, 10:21:28 PM »
They attack any avocado tree, they dont care how old the tree is but usually like to get young leaves that are soft.  Using organic fertilizer or mulch only MAY help lessen thr attack.  Chemical fertilizer can cause lots of rapid growth and soft tissue that bugs like to attack.  The key is to plant your trees and mulch heavily and maintain the tree in good health then these bugs don't matter much.  If you have a tree in a pot, it will just make it go into decline more. 

"Have you driven by it? It's dreadful. 110f, cows crushing each other to find shade, and a pervasive smell that will get through your AC system even on recirc. It's gnarly."

Yeah I grew up in Stockton and have driven up and down the central valley many times.  I always hate passing by that place. 

Heres a really interesting article from 1985 in the San Diego Reader about a guy named Stephan Reiss.  He had a theory that there was unlimited amounts of water created deep in the earth and all we need to do is locate and access it.  It goes into his theory and how he drilled wells with huge refresh rates and some stuff on avocado farming here etc.  Basically he didn't like the mainstream "shortage" and rationing mindset and had some other really interesting ideas.  Weather you believe it or not, its a good read.

You can go pretty deep down the "primary water theory" rabbit hole if you want to get into what Stephan was teying to tell us.

Like the Fijah spring in the desert in Syria.  Fresh water springs under the ocean.  Ringwoodite.  And the Momar Ghadafi great man made water project. 

This stuff is super intriguing.

Cowshwitz  ::)  ;D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado leave infection
« on: July 09, 2024, 05:36:44 PM »
Do trees in florida have persea mites?  Its super common in CA.  You can pretty much ignore it.  It will just come back. 

Predator mites are the best way to get it under control.  But it is not really necessary and they will just come back. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Two fruit thieves in one day.
« on: July 08, 2024, 09:57:09 PM »
If the yard guy is coming back, go confront him.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Avocado Sampler box
« on: July 08, 2024, 07:05:07 PM »
Avocado boxes shipped today.  Thry should be there in a day or 2.  Message me if you need tracking.  Try not to leave the box all day on the porch.

The peel is thick on murashige and you should use a toothpick in the stem hole to test if it is soft. 

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