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I have a friend who has to meet city requirements by replacing the trees they removed with 5" caliper trees (~16" diameter circumference). They want to do a mango and avocado; they are open to whatever varieties might be available. Pots would be great, but they'd also cover the cost of digging whatever up, too. Even some random seedling will be fine, just can't be scraggly-looking (should have a main trunk, no bifurcation for the first 1-3 above ground). Please PM or post pics if you have something that fits the need. Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What Pest is attacking my Longan Tree?
« on: November 03, 2023, 11:13:27 AM »
Finally got my little tree looking healthy, but in the last two months Iíve been noticing very tiny white flecks under the leaves and in the branches. Mostly random individual flecks, but they definitely colonize in patches (like in the pics below). Leaves started turning yellow & dropping. Tried poking/prodding the flecks, nothing is moving (don't think it's a fly), looks like a scale. Really hoping itís not the dreaded miteÖ

I drenched it completely with Monterey Horticultural Oil yesterday. Itís a tiny tree, so Iíll brush whatever it is off in a few days (if itís still there). Just want to have a plan ready for the next time I notice it.

Just realized I have ACPs on my potted citrus trees, must have introduced them via citrus trees I bought from Home Depot a few months ago. I drenched all my citrus with Spinosad ~2 weeks ago, just now did another drench with horticultural oil today and think I need to do a soil drench soon to combat them over the winter. I see there's a Monterey Soil Drench and a Bayer Advanced Fruit, Citrus & Vegetable product that both claim to be effective against ACP, but both give instructions for in-ground trees. Has anybody used either of these products with potted citrus? I'm trying to figure out which one would work best and how I should apply it with potted citrus.

All my citrus showed the beginning signs of a flush and I noticed the little buggers on it. Took me a few days, but I mixed up a bottle of Monterey Garden Insect Spray (with Spinosad) and doused them two days ago. Just examined them this morning and I still noticed a few of them still perched on the new growth. It's my first time trying to control for these, so I'm wondering:

  • Should the spray have killed the bugs or warded them off? Or, is it like CLM, it's the larvae it kills?
  • If I'm still seeing the flies, should I spray again (since I still see them)?
  • Will the new growth be curled and stunted, even though I caught them at an early stage? It's looking a little off, but the growth is ~1/4" long, under a week into pushing.


There are threads for days on here asking for people's favorite dwarf/compact/condo variety, but I can't recall anyone asking for opinions on the opposite end of the growth spectrum. I'm taking down a big laurel/water oak that provides good shade, but is too close to things that matter to me (Hurricane Ian snapped some big limbs on it, and we didn't get hit that hard). I'm looking for options on trees that go more or less straight up, rather than spreading, to replace it. Thick/dense canopy would also be great, but I'm guessing that doesn't jibe with my primary desire.

Anybody have some suggestions they could share?

Interested in picking up a box this next week (I'd rather drive than pay for shipping).
Don't all have to be ripe/ready to eat now, I'd prefer a sampling that ripen up between pickup and a week or two (so I'm not gorging the entire box all at once).

Just now ordered way more than I need; figure at least a few of you have been waiting for them to become available.

Citrus General Discussion / Lime leaves curling
« on: March 07, 2023, 12:34:19 PM »
I have a few Persian limes along with Meyer lemons in pots right next to each other. Two weeks ago gave all of them a top dressing of compost along with some well-aged cow manure. Lemons are putting out healthy new leaves, but the limes are curling (see pics). Itís not CLM (it's an issue, but I know what CLM looks like), I canít see any pests or damage to the new leaves, so Iím thinking itís something in the top dressing. I also moved them to a slightly sunnier spot a week or two prior to the top dressing; they are getting maybe 3 hours of (early morning) extra sun, but are shaded from 11AM-3PM.

Any guesses on the issue (and solutions) are appreciated!

I have a fairly big glazed pot in a conspicuous space that I'm thinking to put a mango in. I currently have similar-sized IC and DH trees (~3' tall), wondering which will be more visually pleasing (once it gets larger), anybody have an opinion? Anything looking sparse, lanky, droopy, etc., will lead to me catching constant flack from my wife.

I also have Amrapali (which seems super sloooow-growing), Pickering & Rosiegold, but they are each a year or two's growth behind my IC/DH.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB/ISO Dupuis avocado scions
« on: January 09, 2023, 11:02:44 AM »
Hoping to buy half a dozen or so of Dupuis, feel free to PM me.


I have several trees I've been want to plant all season, but the areas I will be planting in can hold a lot of water when we get our seasonal downpours. Because of that, I'm wanting to plant the trees 1-2' above the ground level, so they'll be able to handle standing water better. I have a huge roll of RootBuilder, what I'm thinking to do is cut 1-2' tall strips of it (with the appropriate ring size) and plant the trees high (something like what member MarkInTexas does in his greenhouse). I'll expand the RootBuilder rings as the trees get taller, eventually I'll try removing the rings and mulching the tree mounds.

So, all that said, my two concerns are the abuse the RootBuilder pots will suffer when the grass around them is cut (riding mowers and weed-eaters will take their toll) AND the aesthetical appearance of the RootBuilder container itself. I've been hoping to stumble upon some durable, flexible-sized plastic/PVC that I can cut to loosely wrap around the RootBuilder to protect it and make the plantings looking more appealing. Anybody have any suggestions? All I can think of (that exists) is finding some of those large food-grade (water-storage) barrels/drums and cutting them to size.

I still need to knock one or two varieties off the list to get down to 4, 5 tops, but I think I've targeted the varieties I'll chose from. My criteria was dwarf to low vigor, (moderately) dense canopy vs open/spreading, with at least some resistance to diseases. I'm planning to plant the trees ~12 feet apart along a line between my house and my neighbor. I also want to try and cover the season as best possible.

Dwarf Hawaiian


Cotton Candy

Honey Kiss

I have other trees planned in the yard. I'll have some combination of Orange Sherbet, Sugarloaf, Lemon Zest, Sweet Tart, etc., but I want this hedge to be manageable, fairly reliable varieties.
I'm still open to any suggestions, there were several varieties I strongly considered but couldn't nail down their growth habit or ripening time.

Figure us in the Tropical Fruit discussion deal with mosquitos the most. We've been getting drenched lately with the seasonal Florida Gulf Coast weather pattern. I've been catching roof runoff in some huge containers I have; I quickly cover the containers before the rain stops and keep them covered, but it seems a mosquito or two always find their way to lay some eggs in it. I go out at night after a day or two and flash a light in the dark container to spot the little bastards, then I dump it all out when I find some (which is  nearly always).

Anybody know something I could add to the water to kill them, but still be able to use the water on my plants? I know there are larvae-eating minnows people add, but that doesn't work in my situation.

I do enjoy reading the annual mango thief stories this time of year; not for the tragedy of the loss, but the continual education in the depths some people will stoop to. I've never had a tree close to the road, and (so far) even the squirrels have left my fruit alone. The bell has not tolled for me thus far, but that's fixing to change.

I'm planning a ~5 tree line between my neighbor's house and mine. I told him I'd take care of everything and share the fruit. Wouldn't you know, he was all for it  ;D
Anyway, so the line will end pretty close to the street; the closest tree will be probably ~15' from the road. Lots of foot and car traffic continually, so I'm sure the trees will attract attention. I'm thinking it would be wise to pick a mango (or two) that stays green when ripe or can be picked green and ripen reliably off the tree.

Hoping some of you could share your favorite green mango(es). Ideally it would be low/medium vigor, but I'm planning to prune aggressively, if needed.

A few of my avocadoes are showing similar leaf damage that is concerning me, hoping someone can help me narrow down the cause. Here's what they look like:

I believe these are the potential causes:
  • Florida Sun (sun went from feeling nice on your skin to immediately burning your flesh in the last few weeks)
  • Seasonal Leaf Turnover (Nishikawa is obviously pushing new growth...Day, though, is not and showing similar symptoms)
  • Homemade Compost (could be throwing off the PH, or something like that)
  • Bacterial/Fungal issues

NOTE: the photos were all taken with me facing north, damage is primarily on south-facing leaves.

All trees showing damage just now began getting all-day sun, the house is no longer providing mid-day shade due to sun angle. There are a few older trees not quite in the same location not showing same damage, but they shed their old leaves a month ago (they also received some of the same compost).

The compost has been sitting for well over a year and was baked in the sun for several days prior to adding. It was added as a top dressing to all my citrus, mango, avocado trees, other than one small similar spot on a mango leaf.

As to disease, I sadly had no choice but to conclude I have MBBS. I've been in denial for since last season when I noticed damage on my fruit that I told myself was only anthracnose, but I found multiple leaves covered with damage spots looking like this (the leaves with the most prolific damage are all Kent seedlings):

I've never heard Avocadoes can be afflicted with MBBS, but these are only a few feet away from some of the leaves covered in MBBS. If you look closely, especially at the Day (IMG_5430,jpg), the damage is spotty and has something approaching a halo around some of the damage. Maybe/hopefully it's not MBBS crossing over, but could it be anthracnose?

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