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Hello folks!

For all rare fruit maniacs who want to try to grow Yangmei from seeds please be aware there is already one European seeds source for this species... me! ;D ;D ;D

The fruit season here in Portugal is just starting now so very fresh seeds are available.
Asking price of 1 €uros per seed.
Postage fees always depend on total weight and destination but usually 10 €uros is enough for most parcels.
Please contact by PM in case you need some.
Thanks again and best regards
Miguel













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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: June is Pitanga time!
« on: April 19, 2023, 06:21:00 AM »
Hello Folks
Just realised this 2015 post of my Pitanga fruit trees collection was revisited recently...

Not sure if you're all aware but this particular variety of Orange Pitanga with big fruits was reviewed by Jared Rydelek (Weird Fruit Explorer) on a recent episode filmed during his visit to Lisbon/Portugal back in may last year.
Have you seen it?... apparently Jared liked it.
In fact I believe that the fruits that Jared reviewed came from a tree that grew from one of those seeds you can see on my hand back in 2015.

This is the variety I've been calling "Orange Pitangăo" because fruits are much bigger than those of another variety of Orange Pitangas on my colection.
I remember that this "Weird Fruit Explorer" episode was filmed in may 19th 2022 so, hopefully, in a month I expect to have ripe fruits on my tree again and I will be offering fresh seeds for sale if anyone's interested. Just PM me in case you want some.
You can also find this "Weird Fruit Explorer" episode on my facebook page MIGUEL PT
Here's the link to that episode on Youtube... enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uVVNSmrPlk

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 12, 2023, 08:49:12 AM »
Hello folks
Just some tips from my personal experience with seedling yangmei trees here in Portugal northwest Atlantic coast (climate 9a):

From seeds planted back in 2013 and 2014 I successfully grew 12 seedlings. According to my records, one seedling sprouted in 2014 and all others in 2015.
Grew these seedlings in pots for some years and eventually planted all outside in the open back in 2016 or 2017 (don’t recall exact dates)
All seedlings grew well with no special care and got first flowers on a female plant back in 2020. No fruit set because no male flowers around.
In 2021 had first flowers on 3 other seedlings (1 male + 2 females ). All females had good fruit set as soon I got first male flowers in the orchard.
In 2022 all seedling trees flowered and fruited, and I ended up with exactly 6 males and 6 females.
So, my personal experience is that in 5 to 6 years from seed you can get seedlings to flower and fruit, and apparently chances are 50/50 to grow male or female trees from seed.

Absolutely you must consider having at least a male tree around your females to get good fruit set.
The main difference I have observed on male seedling trees is the vigor of the flowers and the timing of pollen production, meaning I have a male tree that starts shedding pollen very early in the year (early February) while others only start shedding pollen by march.
On the female seedling trees, I have noted a lot of variations on fruit quality, and so far, I have 4 out of 6 females that I already considered to be keepers and worth of propagation.
The 2 female seedling trees that I rated negatively for now were only because they produced lower caliber fruits even if the taste was still very good, but even these will be observed in the coming years for further evaluation as for now these 2 female trees were only on their first year of fruit set.
Two of my female seedling trees are producing what I consider excellent fruits in terms of fruit caliber and taste (a black fruit variety and a bright red fruit variety)
One of the female seedling trees is remarkable because of fruit ripeness precocity. This one show mature female flowers very early in the year (early to mid-February) and then starts ripening fruits by end of May, while the other female seedlings only start giving ripe fruits by end of June and early July, so basically this female tree gives me ripe yangmei fruits one full month ahead of others and extends the fruiting season.

For those familiar with my Facebook page you can find there some photos and videos of my Yangmei trees and fruits. Just look for "Miguel PT" on Facebook.

Before starting my experience with these 12 seedlings, I also grew a grafted tree from a supposed self-fertile variety. I imported this tree from a nursery in England back in 2008. I believe the English nursery imported it directly from China.
This grafted tree grew well and started flowering while still in a pot, and all flowers I could observe were clearly female. Even with closer observation I never detected any male flowers on this tree.
For years it flowered consistently without setting any fruits but eventually it had some fruit set some years, but the fruits were always in small quantity and production was not consistence with some years with zero fruit set, and other years with fruit set on only some branches.
On my records I found first photos of my Yangmei fruits dated from 2016 and I remember I’ve had fruits before but unfortunately, I didn’t kept any photos of it, but I still think I might have the record of the first Yangmei fruits produced in Europe.
My observation is that this self-fertile tree did in fact produced some male flowers, but not consistently and the quantity of pollen is not enough to assure good pollination and fruit set.

This is an ongoing experience, and these are for now my first report of results and comments.
Hope it can be helpful for you, guys.
Just keep it growing and good luck to you all Yangmei aficionados

Just to add a follow up on this story:
The reason I planted Yangmei seeds back in 2013 and 2014 was to try to get a male tree to pollinate the grafted female tree I already had growing in my orchard.
Unfortunately, this more than 10 years old grafted tree was destroyed by a huge flood we had here back in December 2019.
This tree was already more than 3 meters high with a trunk circumference of 20 cm, but somehow the water flow broke the tree trunk at ground level and the entire tree floated down stream.
When the water level recessed, I went down river looking for my tree, but I never managed to find the whole tree.
Luckily, I found some broken branches with green leaves still on it and managed to successfully graft one of those branches on a seedling, so this variety isn’t lost and it’s still growing on my personal Yangmei collection.
Now I can only imagine the quantity of fruits I could have had if this tree was still alive when the first male seedling started flowering.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 12, 2023, 07:37:07 AM »
Hello folks
Just some tips from my personal experience with seedling yangmei trees here in Portugal northwest Atlantic coast (climate 9a):

From seeds planted back in 2013 and 2014 I successfully grew 12 seedlings. According to my records, one seedling sprouted in 2014 and all others in 2015.
Grew these seedlings in pots for some years and eventually planted all outside in the open back in 2016 or 2017 (don’t recall exact dates)
All seedlings grew well with no special care and got first flowers on a female plant back in 2020. No fruit set because no male flowers around.
In 2021 had first flowers on 3 other seedlings (1 male + 2 females ). All females had good fruit set as soon I got first male flowers in the orchard.
In 2022 all seedling trees flowered and fruited, and I ended up with exactly 6 males and 6 females.
So, my personal experience is that in 5 to 6 years from seed you can get seedlings to flower and fruit, and apparently chances are 50/50 to grow male or female trees from seed.

Absolutely you must consider having at least a male tree around your females to get good fruit set.
The main difference I have observed on male seedling trees is the vigor of the flowers and the timing of pollen production, meaning I have a male tree that starts shedding pollen very early in the year (early February) while others only start shedding pollen by march.
On the female seedling trees, I have noted a lot of variations on fruit quality, and so far, I have 4 out of 6 females that I already considered to be keepers and worth of propagation.
The 2 female seedling trees that I rated negatively for now were only because they produced lower caliber fruits even if the taste was still very good, but even these will be observed in the coming years for further evaluation as for now these 2 female trees were only on their first year of fruit set.
Two of my female seedling trees are producing what I consider excellent fruits in terms of fruit caliber and taste (a black fruit variety and a bright red fruit variety)
One of the female seedling trees is remarkable because of fruit ripeness precocity. This one show mature female flowers very early in the year (early to mid-February) and then starts ripening fruits by end of May, while the other female seedlings only start giving ripe fruits by end of June and early July, so basically this female tree gives me ripe yangmei fruits one full month ahead of others and extends the fruiting season.

For those familiar with my Facebook page you can find there some photos and videos of my Yangmei trees and fruits. Just look for "Miguel PT" on Facebook.

Before starting my experience with these 12 seedlings, I also grew a grafted tree from a supposed self-fertile variety. I imported this tree from a nursery in England back in 2008. I believe the English nursery imported it directly from China.
This grafted tree grew well and started flowering while still in a pot, and all flowers I could observe were clearly female. Even with closer observation I never detected any male flowers on this tree.
For years it flowered consistently without setting any fruits but eventually it had some fruit set some years, but the fruits were always in small quantity and production was not consistence with some years with zero fruit set, and other years with fruit set on only some branches.
On my records I found first photos of my Yangmei fruits dated from 2016 and I remember I’ve had fruits before but unfortunately, I didn’t kept any photos of it, but I still think I might have the record of the first Yangmei fruits produced in Europe.
My observation is that this self-fertile tree did in fact produced some male flowers, but not consistently and the quantity of pollen is not enough to assure good pollination and fruit set.

This is an ongoing experience, and these are for now my first report of results and comments.
Hope it can be helpful for you, guys.
Just keep it growing and good luck to you all Yangmei aficionados

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Hi again Folks

Forgot to add that I also have other fresh seeds available now if someone's interested.

Eugenia calycina cv. Nelita ... 4 €uros each
Jaboticaba Sabará-de-Cabinho... 3 €uros each
Pitanga Regina... 3 €uros each
Dwarf-Pitanga (Eugenia pitanga)... 10 €uros each

Soon other rarities will join to this list.
Thanks again and best regards
Miguel

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Hello folks
Ever wondered if there are any Yangmei fruiting trees in Europe?
The answer is yes!... In Portugal there are already several fruiting trees, and they are in season now so very fresh seeds are available for trade.

Price of these seeds is 1 €uros each... minimum order is 20 seeds
Postage fees are 6 €uros by registered air mail with tracking number to follow.
Payment by PayPal.
Please PM for enquiries.
thanks in advance !
Miguel








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry varieties
« on: February 18, 2022, 09:17:46 AM »
Hello Witan
I have growing here in Portugal one Morus Alba var. "Ivory" and one Morus nigra var. "Repsime".
I imported both plants from England several years ago.
Please check if these can be of any interest to you?
thanks and best regards
Miguel

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I am not sure if you are aware of the "Scarlet" variety of Eugenia involucrata that has red new growth leaves and red bark on the trunk.
What you probably have there is one of these Scarlets or at least one Eugenia involucrata seedling with some Scarlet genes.
You can also confirm the Scarlet genes on the fruit flesh.
On the Scarlet variety the fruit flesh is also red/scarlet colored.
You can see photos of this variety on my facebook page.
Good luck mate!

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Hi again folks
I have now very fresh seeds of the woolly jelly palm (Butia eriospatha) that is reputedly the best Butia species for fruits production both in size and taste.
On the following photos you can see the fruit spathes densely covered in rust coloured woolly hairs that properly identify the species.
Attached are photos of the fruits too.
Price is 2 Euros each seed and postage fees are 6 Euros.
I am keen to offer free postage for orders of 15 seeds or more.
Please PM for orders. Thanks in advance
Miguel












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A+
Dedicated collector!
Quality seeds!
Excellent customer service!
Many thanks for your kind words!

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Hello folks
My Eugenia florida is in season now so very fresh seeds are available during next days/weeks.
This species has been discussed on this forum before... check this out please:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=6928.msg90469#msg90469

Seeds are 3 €uros each and postage fees are 6 €uros.
I offer free postage for orders of 10 seeds or more.
Please be aware that all international mail is subjected to longer transit times during this Covid pandemic period.
My compromise is to post all seeds packed on moist vermiculite medium so that seeds can deal with these extended mail transit times probably starting germination on the way.
Thanks again and stay safe
Miguel







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What the variety?
This is a variety of Plinia jaboticaba species

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Received my seeds today.  Arrived exactly 2 week.  I guess I got me the fastest. 

Thanks for the extra.  Great seller

Now I could confuse.  The germinated one, which side go up and which side is to go down to the ground.





Hello Pinkturtle
Thankyou very much for the good news and for your kind words too.
Those are small roots growing so better to plant it pointing down.
Good luck and I remain at your full disposal in case you need anything else from me.
All the best!
Miguel

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Got my seeds today super stoked!!! Most annoying part was tracking number only showed the Portugal shipping updates whereas after package left Portugal all updates stopped.

-joe

Hi Joe
Thanks for the good news.
I recently went to our local post office to ask information and complain about the lack of tracking information outside Portugal.
There they explained me that CTT blame USPS for this lack of information. Apparently during this pandemic period the USPS services and personal stopped updating the tracking informations online and CTT can't do nothing about it...
So this explains why the packages just show tracking information while they are in Portugal and most cases the last tracking information available online is "International expedition from Lisbon on date..."
Lisbon is our capital city and all international mail leaves Portugal from Lisbon international airport.
I just recomend patience to all because things seem to be moving slowly but steadily.
Thanks again and stay safe
Miguel



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Hi Miguel,


I sent you a pm.

The grumixama-mirim looks very similar to the dwarf grumichama but the leaves are certainly different. Sounds like it’s fruit are better tasting.
Hi again
I've alreday answered your PM. Please check it. Thanks and stay safe

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Hi again folks.
Here's some photos of my grumixama-mirim fruits. This species features on the book "Frutas no Brasil" by the name Eugenia longipedunculata, but Helton say Eugenia longipedunculata is an orange pitanga looking fruit and calls this species Eugenia blastantha.
On the book "Frutas no Brasil" the name Eugenia blastantha is referred as a sinonim for Eugenia longipedunculata.
Regardless the controversy on the correct ID what I can confirm is that these fruits are excellent in terms of taste... Can't get enough of these!...
This is one extremelly rare mirtacea and a must have on any rare fruit colection IMHO.
Previous years I used mostly these seeds to raise new seedlings but this year production was very good so I am offering here some fresh seeds for sale, but please hurry if you need some because seed stock is low.

Price is 10 €uros each seed and postage fees are 6 €uros... free postage for orders higher than 4 seeds
Payment by PayPal

Otehr that these seeds I stil have fresh seeds of the following species:
Eugenia calycina "Nelita"
Eugenia brasiliensis var. Erythrocarpa
Eugenia involucrata
Eugenia pitanga
These seeds can be sent sharing the same package with no extra fee charge

A word of warning regarding postage and mail transit times during this COVID times:
On previous years any parcel posted from Portugal reached almost anywhere in the world in 2 weeks or even less transit time.
But now during this COVID pandemic period all international mail seem to be very delayed due to lack of international flights and other factors that I can not control in any way.
The only thing I can garantee is that I provide a tracking-number for each package sent and I also garantee that my seeds are always sent packed on moist vermiculite medium so being prepared to deal with extended transit times probably starting germination on the way.

Thanks in advance to all friends interested on my seeds!
Best regards and stay safe
Miguel







This species produces both seeded and seedless fruits. Seeded fruits are the bigger ones.





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I ordered some. Are you mailing them from Portugal? Thanks!

Hello and yes these seeds are posted from Portugal.
Thanks again and best regards
Miguel

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Hello again folks
I am offering fresh seeds of Eugenia brasiliensis var. Erythrocarpa.
This is a red/ purple grumixama that grow on a smaller tree that is more adapted for growing in pots and perfect for zone pushers like me. In fact I keep some trees in 20 liters pots since 2007 and still growing and producing well year after year.
Seeds are 2 Euros each and postage fees are 6 Euros.
Postage is by registered air mail as I use to do but please be aware that actual transit time is longer than pre-covid times.
Seeds are sent on moist vermiculite medium so there should be no issues with dealing with the longer transit times and probably seeds will start sprouting on the way.
I always have other fresh rare mirtaceas seeds available (like Nelita and others) that can share postage with no extra postage fees added. Please feel free to enquiry what else is available by pm.
Payment by PayPal.
Thanks in advance and keep safe
Miguel






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Hi again folks.
On my facebook page you can check some photos of this weekend's harvest.
Other than Nelita seeds now I also have fresh seeds of Ubajai (Eugenia myrcianthes) + Eugenia involucrata (CORG) + Red-grumixama (Eugenia brasiliensis var. Erythrocarpa)

take a look here please
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id
Thanks in advance



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Did you get my payment? Thanks, Ed
Hello Ed
You have PM my friend
Thanks again and stay safe!
Miguel

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Not sure how to do a pm.
Need your PayPal for payment
And will send mail address when done.
Emir Lopez

Hello Emir
Please contact me to my email address:

miguel.pt.fruits@gmail.com

thanks again and best regards
Miguel

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Hey Miguel,
I don’t have much growing space. Can I do just 5 seeds?
If yes, please send me your handle for PayPal.
Thanks
Emir
Yes you can have only 5 seeds.
I have no minimum order.
Please PM to go ahead with your order.
Thanks in advance
Miguel

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Hi again folks

First ripe fruits of Nelita were harvested today so first pacakges will be sent tomorrow.
For those that have pending orders please contact again.
Thanks again and keep safe
Miguel

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Hello again fruit fanatics!
Decided to update this thread just to inform you all that Eugenia calycina "Nelita" fruit season is about to start... I am starting to see some color on the fruits so I am accepting pre-orders starting from now!
Price is 4 €uros each seed.
Postage fees are 6 €uros by registered mail with tracking-number.
Payment by PayPal
Please PM for more details
Thanks in advance and keep safe my friends!
Miguel

PM sent
Hello AggrOnline
Did not received any PM from you neither.
Can you please resend
Thanks in advance
Miguel

Sorry AggrOnline I made some confusion with your PM ... Thanks again

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Hello Raul

I am definitly interested in some of those seeds.
Hopefully they can produce hardier trees due to the high altitude origins and maybe they can grow well on my climate 9 here in Europe.
You have PM my friend!
Thanks for making these seeds available and keep safe!
Miguel

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