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TOP may be fos, but there is a Volcano Winery that uses jabo as an ingredient in blended wines. Probably just regular jabos it seems.

https://www.volcanowinery.com/shop-wines

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I've got several nice and healthy trees and plants from TOP in the past, but agree it is a bit of a gamble purchasing some things. My productive rollinia is from them, along with SW sap. They are 2 of my favorite trees, but I have dozens of favs =) Haven't ordered from them for years, more because they don't really have anything I'm looking for anymore, and have better sources for most stuff. Business must be good, because I recall them having an, "I don't give a shit" attitude.

As for Volcano Red Jabo, I would do some research and see what growers in Hawaii say. I always thought Sabara was the wine jabo, but also have heard of a "red one."

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Trouble free and fruitful:

Silas Woods Sapodilla
Sabara Jabo
Kari Starfruit
Garcinia intermedia
Thai jujube
kumquats
Various passion fruit
Glenn mango
papayas
Surinam cherry

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 17, 2024, 11:06:02 AM »
Thank you Brandon. Upon further consideration, think I have a sausage tree at the moment.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 10:57:34 AM »
Fantastic seeing all the progress! Sooo jealous Simon, but you work hard for the plants so they better treat you right! Thinking next year flowers, maybe fruits, for us. Babying them now.

Biqi 1


Biqi 2


White Dong Kui


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 16, 2024, 07:05:23 PM »
Thx Brandon, you have doubled my hope! =)

Will take better pics tomorrow.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 16, 2024, 05:51:01 PM »
Are these baby jak fruit? Nothing but male flowers for the last year or 2, but I see collars. Is that actually a reliable indicator of female flowers? 
Fruit 1?


Fruit 2?
Bad pic, but can see a collar on this one too.


Tree was seed grown from Farmers Market fruit that was crunchy and sweet, at least 5 years old, or more.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: February 15, 2024, 11:32:43 AM »
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: keitt mango taste
« on: February 15, 2024, 09:25:40 AM »
Maybe they were treated with something. Have eaten plenty of Keitts over the years, and while not the best, have never noticed a "chemical" aftertaste. Stop eating them! Maybe find a better source for mangoes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: February 14, 2024, 07:13:18 PM »
While some fruits may ripen in late March, April is usually when some of the early varieties start, with May being much better and probably the official start to the season. June and July seem to be the peak months, with August mangoes being harder to find. Some of my neighbors have trees holding fruit as late as early November. Hoping for some August and September mmm4's this season.

Southern FL does have drier winters, but rainfall can vary dramatically between locations that are close to each other.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Fresh INGA pods DELICIOUS!!
« on: February 14, 2024, 12:41:27 PM »
Just got in there. Quite nice! Sweeter than I expected, with a pleasant flavor. Not very complex. My kid liked it too.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Fresh INGA pods DELICIOUS!!
« on: February 14, 2024, 12:22:16 PM »
Pods arrived today, thank you very much!

I've never had these before. Are they ready to eat now, or should I wait for any changes?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Play: Name That Eugenia/Jabo!
« on: February 13, 2024, 11:09:14 PM »
#3 "annona" is an interesting guess. When I look at the closeup pic, it does look annona-ish. The leaves are smaller than annona, hard to tell from the pic. If you look at the first pic (group shot), #3 is the one on top.

I'm pretty sure it is a eugenia, maybe a plinia. While I do plant seeds, this one came in from a forum member or online seller.

Just planted some eugenia and myrciaria seeds, and LABELED them well, lol

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Play: Name That Eugenia/Jabo!
« on: February 13, 2024, 08:04:45 PM »
Thanks Nate! I was thinking #1 is AxP, and was less sure about the other 2, but think you are also correct about #2 being e. squam.

#3 is tougher for me. Don't recall picking up any other plinias around that size and time, so was thinking eugenia. Any other ideas on #3 are appreciated.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: February 12, 2024, 08:02:38 PM »
The Maha is only a tiny branch, and is mostly shaded. Will be lucky if it comes to anything. ndm4 also has Orange Sherbet grafted, which is like another tree itself now. It has not yet flowered either. Partially shaded corner of the yard, not ideal for mangoes.

ndm4 did produce a couple of tiny fruits a couple of years ago, but nothing that held to maturity.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Play: Name That Eugenia/Jabo!
« on: February 12, 2024, 03:49:54 PM »
...alright, hint time.

I think the larger one might be AxP jabo.

Another of the plants should be e. squamiflora.

Not sure what the other one was supposed to be.

Thx!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: February 11, 2024, 01:42:09 PM »
Must be nice to see blooms on that Pickering seedling! Congrats Shot! I have a grafted ndm4; waiting 9+ years and still no fruit. But the Maha graft on it is flowering =)

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I have 2 Sabaras, red hybrid, and a blue vexator all growing for years in thin hi ph soil, on top of limestone. Those varieties can take hi ph for sure. Larger Sabara produces quite well, and has never had any major issues. In ground since early 2016. Every city's water is different, ours here does not appear to bother the jabos, and they get hose watered a couple of times or more per week. That doesn't mean I don't get some leaf tip burn here or there, but the plants are thriving, and better a little leaf burn than a dried out jabo.

Unless the ph was ridiculously hi, something else is up with your jabo.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Let's Play: Name That Eugenia/Jabo!
« on: February 11, 2024, 12:01:55 PM »
Hello. Hate it when I do this! Somehow these are unlabeled, and not sure what is what. I need help identifying the following 3 seedlings. Hint: They are either jabo or eugenia
(I think). Will give more clues, but want to see what comes up without too many prompts.   

Group Shot


Plant 1

Plant 1 Closeup


Plant 2

Plant 2 Closeup


Plant 3

Plant 3 Closeup


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Garcinia Compatibility
« on: February 10, 2024, 01:50:39 PM »
Hello fellow garcinia lovers! The questions have been bouncing around, "Can I cross this garcinia with that garcinia? Do I really need a male and a female of each dioecious garcinia? Can 2 different (dioe./mono) garcinia species pollinate each other and produce quality fruit?"

As I have a few now, wondering if can get cross pollination between any of the following: Mangostana, Luc's, Orangey Luc's, achachairu. intermedia, improved lemon drop, aristata, madruno, charichuelo, bico de jorco, Squat, Russel's, cherapu/prainiana, Brazilian cherapu, hombroniana, xantho..., small seed, Amazonian giant, Peruvian sp, Frankies?

I expect all varieties of Luc's are compatible, and unsure of what Frankie's originated from.

What's already known on this topic? Also, hope we can add to the knowledge base on this subject.

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If it were a rare mango, might agree with letting a few fruit hold to try it. But since it is VP and you can find that at the store, makes sense to let the tree establish its root system, as Ryan recommended. It may just drop any fruit this season, anyway.

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Thank you Nate! Healthy plants arrived today, really appreciate the generosity!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone 9b/10a Driveway Hedge
« on: February 08, 2024, 07:36:51 PM »
Surinam cherry makes an excellent hedge. I would grow the tasty ones, at least in sections. Going to switch out some of ours, which taste too resinous, for tastier cultivars and other eugenias.

Throw some jabos in there. They are ornamental and tasty.

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Yes, Fruit and Spice Park!

You might want to check out Morikami Japanese Gardens in Delray Beach.

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