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I wasn't trying to nitpick. Some people leave their seeds in plastic bags w/ vermiculite until a root emerges, then plant in soil. That's how you could see. I thought you were one of those. Recently I've bought many Eugenia seeds that arrived germinated (a few of them sprouted too). E. beaurep. for example came mostly germinated with tiny root nubs, planted immediately, and no sprouts yet 7 months later. I accidentally dug one up around a month ago, fat healthy seed with nice big, healthy, branching roots. Still nothing above ground though. They're in 12 inch deep pots

Nah, this one's different. He also called it Araza banana-limon. "...It may be similar to the araza-johvy, but we cannot confirm that it's Psidium australe or another Psidium exactly. We think it could be Central American, but we cannot affirm it either; the new shoots of leaves are brownish, which can mean that it resists frosts between -3 to -6C."

It says $18-34. If $18 is for 5, I'm guessing $34 is for 10, not 25, so maybe the issue is related to no price for the 25 pack? If it's $34/25 I'll buy a few.

I need help identifying this. For sec, I thought it would be wild rosemary, but I believe it to be some kind of wax myrtle. I found it along the trail during my running season. Took one home for closer inspection. They were cluster together ranging from couple inches to 3 feetish the tallest.

Morella pumila?

Oblongata and Campo Ramon have been fairly quick. Sp. Shawi is actually one of the fastest. Probably the fastest are two unknowns. The tall one might be a coronata, the other should be either Acu Paulista, Branca Vinho, or Coronata Restinga. I did ten community pots with an assortment in each, and whatever it is, its siblings in the other pots aren't growing like this. The rest of this pot is mainly sabaras. The tall one was started from seed in spring 2020, the group pots in spring 2021.

Slowest: Nana, Phitrantha (surprisingly), navel-types (elongated, thin leaves), something with narrow lime-green rugose leaves (visible in the last picture, to the left of the fast one, amid a bunch of sabaras).

If you count white and yellow, those are both quick.

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Quote from: NateTheGreat on February 23, 2023, 03:13:18 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/25/lori-mcclintock-death-white-mulberry-leaf-congressman-wife

Did you happen to catch this only because it was a Californian congressman? I'm sort of baffled how this information would disseminate to the forum. Just seems like an odd way to highlight adverse health conditions with something I viewed as safe in moderation.

I guess it made me chuckle on how news of a congressman's wife is meaningful info to the forum

Nah, I read The Guardian (a British newspaper) regularly, and remembered seeing this article. It's also on the Wikipedia page for Morus alba.

I don't know what's baffling about my posting it. We probably wouldn't have heard about it if she weren't a noteworthy person. Her death doesn't seem amusing to me.

Quote from: NateTheGreat on February 23, 2023, 03:13:18 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/25/lori-mcclintock-death-white-mulberry-leaf-congressman-wife

It was determined that the mulberry leaf powders she was taking were probably contaminated with other stuff or just plain mislabeled. Supplements are a very shady industry, it's a shame that their poor quality controls have caused people to be wrongly afraid of a completely safe plant like mulberry.

Any source for the claim it was only due to contamination? I looked but found none. Here's what I did find:

"The coroner had asked Colwell to identify the 1 1/8-inch-by-1 7/8-inch leaf fragment found in McClintock's stomach during the autopsy.

Colwell identified it as white mulberry and concluded, based on its flexibility and "some green color," that it "was likely ingested when fresh," her letter said. "

- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/experts-question-white-mulberry-death-of-lori-mcclintock-congressmans-wife/

So what you say about it being contaminated "powders" doesn't sound accurate.

From the book page 33

"While there have been news stories about deaths from overconsumption of mulberry leaf, these are inaccurate.  ...mulberry is actually among the safest of all leaves humans ingest."
Nutrition. Extremely high in calcium and iron, very high fiber, magnesium, zinc, folate, and Vitamin C

I encourage everyone to do their own research before eating anything new. 

Janet

I looked, the book's source is the CBS article I linked, which is not definitive to me. "According to the CBS story “Experts Question the Role
of White Mulberry in Death of Congressman’s Wife,” mulberry is actually among the safest of all leaves humans ingest."

Personally I'm guessing it's probably safe, but this dismissal of concerns seems cavalier.

Blame the agricultural inspections not the buyer.

So are these getting inspected?

Could be lucuma.

I've got xanthocarpa, macrobracteolata, guazumifolia, hirsuta and schlechtendaliana. If others come up, it's on. I am really interested in them. First year leaving them out to suffer the cold and they're champions. Assuredly they'll defoliate but they're not getting damaged beyond leaves.

I have xanthocarpa and malifolia out getting frosted. The xanthocarpa has almost all of its leaves, only slightly damaged. I had at least one other I gave away. I think it was somewhat less evergreen, but it was also in a worse pot. Malifolia only has maybe 20% of its leaves, and they're more yellow. 7 month old guazumifolia seedlings are protected from frost but not cold, look great and are slowly growing still. I planted rufa seeds a few months ago, but don't have much hope for those. They came sprouted, and died back to the ground after planting. The guazumifolia took about a year to come up IIRC though so it's possible. My only issue is they're getting too big to not go in the ground.

Greetings Roblack, I bought these seeds from Farwell Fruit Farm when he was selling seeds. I really don't remember the description of the fruit. I have a photo of the fruit that I downloaded from his page but I don't dare to post it here because the photo belongs to him

https://www.farwellfruitfarm.com/products/garcinia-sp-da-amazonia?_pos=8&_sid=6015018f9&_ss=r&variant=41163849859226

Does a strainer not work? Heat up the fruit in a pot, add sugar, cook down, then pour through a strainer? Maybe cooking the seeds would impart bad flavors. Thanks for the taste report.