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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Shunkokan taste
« on: June 12, 2025, 01:09:36 AM »
Sweet, pummelo orange mix. This winter It had very thick peel and fruit was bland and bigger than usually, too long on tree.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Shunkokan taste
« on: June 11, 2025, 07:45:36 AM »
Yes, I grow SRA 771 and another plant of unknown origin, plants look identical, but fruits from unknown plant are usually seedless and taste is better than SRA 771. Taste is bland, when fruits hang too long on tree.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Shunkokan taste
« on: June 10, 2025, 01:37:10 PM »
Plant from Tintori nursery is SRA 771.
This accession came to the University of California via W.P. Bitters in 1.1. 1963 as a seed from Shizuoka pref., Shimizu-shi, Japan.
Catalogue number CRC 3476 citrus shunkokan.
In 1987 budwood was imported to SRA INRA-CIRAD France screenhouses. After declared as a disease free, it received SRA number 771.
Citrus shunkokan is a very good citrus.
This accession came to the University of California via W.P. Bitters in 1.1. 1963 as a seed from Shizuoka pref., Shimizu-shi, Japan.
Catalogue number CRC 3476 citrus shunkokan.
In 1987 budwood was imported to SRA INRA-CIRAD France screenhouses. After declared as a disease free, it received SRA number 771.
Citrus shunkokan is a very good citrus.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: All those new Madison Citrus varieties
« on: June 02, 2025, 06:18:32 AM »
Citruses where not that popular in the past as they are now. Common people where focused on plants usable as energy source. Only really rich people could grow plants just for ornamental purpouse or as culinar oddity. For example, for centuries, candied peel was the most important usage of citrus.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Konatsu
« on: June 02, 2025, 02:27:45 AM »
In the past, INRA had page with all info about their plants. Some of their plants came from Riverside collection, but that page no longer exists. If tamurana came from Riverside, it is not true tamurana.
https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/crc3092
"Source
Received as seed from J.R. Creech, Kurume, Kyushu, Japan, 1955."
https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/crc3092
"Source
Received as seed from J.R. Creech, Kurume, Kyushu, Japan, 1955."
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Konatsu
« on: June 01, 2025, 04:25:02 AM »
I'm really curious, if citrus tamurana came to France and Portugal as budwood from Japan, or as seeds. I saw at UCR USA page, that CRC 3092 is a seedling, so definetly not true citrus tamurana, because tamurana is strictly monoembryonic.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Naoshichi
« on: May 31, 2025, 12:44:36 PM »
Naoshichi (citrus takuma-sudachi), is according to literature monoembryonic.
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Citrus General Discussion / Hime Koharu seedling.
« on: March 22, 2025, 03:37:26 AM »
In 2018, I got one seed of Hime Koharu. There was one seed in the whole packet of fruits. It formed two seedlings, one grows more vigorous, more upright, anoher one grows more bush like. They grow together in ground. This year the bigger one, 4 m tall showed first flowerbud on the top.
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Citrus General Discussion / citrus flaviculpus Ougonkan
« on: March 05, 2025, 08:21:33 AM »
In 2018, I sowed a seeds of ougonkan. In 2020 I grafted twig to the crown of big citrus volkameriana, aprox. 3m above the ground.
First flowers.
First flowers.
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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Looking for kaki scions/budwood in EU
« on: February 24, 2025, 11:59:19 AM »
Hello,
want to buy kaki scions of cultivars like Edoichi, Hiyakume, Shishuu etc.
Radoslav
want to buy kaki scions of cultivars like Edoichi, Hiyakume, Shishuu etc.
Radoslav
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Customs of Brazil searching all seed packets. Caution
« on: February 01, 2025, 02:57:45 AM »
I got seeds from Mexico, there are small holes through padded envelope and plastic zip pockets, most likely made by needle at mexican customs office, have you evere seen something like this?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Belle Isle Conservatory
« on: January 08, 2025, 01:07:37 PM »
That's great to know, that this sort of artocarpus can grow at 45F.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse artocarpus updates
« on: January 07, 2025, 02:16:26 PM »
What is minimum temperature in greenhouse?
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Tetraploid Satsuma
« on: January 07, 2025, 07:40:08 AM »
End of september.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Tetraploid Satsuma
« on: January 07, 2025, 05:36:23 AM »
To create satsuma like, cold hardy hybrid, bendizao mandarin looks more promising as mother plant.
It produces seeds without any problem, fruit looks identical to satsuma.
It produces seeds without any problem, fruit looks identical to satsuma.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vanilla pompona from seed?
« on: January 06, 2025, 03:38:25 AM »
Thanks for the info, your idea is definitely worth a try.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vanilla pompona from seed?
« on: January 05, 2025, 08:53:07 AM »Since there’s somebody processing vanilla in your area you might just sell them the green vanilla. The largest processor in Mexico buys green vanilla from more than 500 small farms.
If, before the vanilla bean begins to ripen on the vine, you wrap a thread around it so it doesn’t split open it can ripen on the plant without any process. This vanilla is of very good quality but lacks the presentation for selling as a whole premium bean although for making an extract and/or kitchen use it is the best.
Saludos, Peter
I read, that vanilla bean has to go trought fermentation before use.
So, according to your experiences it is not necessary process for kitchen use?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: COLD HARDY ANNONAS
« on: December 05, 2024, 10:30:25 AM »
Big montana died, after winter, in subtropical greenhouse with minimums aroud +5C, so I gues it is cold sensitive plant.
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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / citrus subcompressa
« on: November 20, 2024, 08:30:50 AM »
Looking for budwood or seeds of citrus subcompressa Zao yu 早橘.
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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: vanilla persimmon
« on: November 19, 2024, 06:57:47 AM »
The best way to remove astrigency from cultivars like Rojo brillante and Vaniglia?
Any tips?
Any tips?
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Community Tristeza Virus test results
« on: March 28, 2024, 12:38:52 PM »
Resaults only show one thing. Old established cultivars carry some strains and new cultivars from seedlings not. Some mild strains protect plants against severe strains.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 26, 2024, 10:29:19 AM »
I heard about poor quality fruits on volkameriana in the past, and everybody told me it, when I bought Avana apireno from italian nursery on volkameriana. It was in bag, for farm growing, but I was sure that italians know what they do, and time proved my thoughs. Avanas on this tree are in top 3 of my mandarins. So, I think that volkameriana does not devalve fruit taste. As I said Oscar Tintori is number one in the market of ornamental citruses in pots in Italy and they use volkameriana.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 25, 2024, 01:09:19 AM »
I read study about rootstock for ornamental citruses in pot and the result was, that the best rootstock is volkameriana, especially for lemons. It gaves compact crown and intense flowering. Oscar Tintori nursery uses exclusively volkameriana for lemons and mandarins.
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