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Sure I would love to.  My olosapo keeps scaring me because it looks bad and has dieback every winter but them grows bigger in the spring and summer.  It is growing steadily, though, I'll post a picture at some point

Mike T, my interest in keledang originally came from a forum post where this Australian guy swore it is the bee's knees  :)

A Prince Amongst Artocarpus

Better than a kwai muk,marang,pedalai or lakoocha? You bet it is.Smokey apricot,chempadak,with a hint of fruity caramel.

It is a great fruit alright, with not latex or aftertaste and can be eaten quickly.Kids love them and oddly there is little smell.Keladangs sure are a classy fruit.

Ah, my mistake.  Thanks for clarifying

Do these need a different variety as pollinator?  I am not understanding why you want to graft mature scion onto it now that your seedling is finally flowering.

I ask because I have a seedling olosapo (no flowers yet) and if it needs a pollinator I will have to keep that in mind!

Thanks for the heads up, Kaz.  I have been checking her site occasionally since I heard about it.  I didn't realize they sell out so quick.  And nice to see she is on the forum!  :)

I just ordered a bunch of new stuff to try grafting and rooting. 

That is amazing, I assumed the non-waxy leafed artocarpus would require high humidity.  My house is about 20% relative humidity in winter with the heat running.  Some plants handle it okay but others decline quickly if I bring them indoors, but they are happy in the humid greenhouse.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meiwa dying back
« on: February 29, 2024, 09:19:08 PM »
mine seems to have died to the graft also :(    I scratched the bark and it is gray.  Rootstock might still be alive, though.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted achachairu seedlings
« on: February 29, 2024, 07:57:45 PM »
I have a bunch, sent you PM

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Issues With Eugenias Post-Sprouting
« on: February 28, 2024, 08:30:16 PM »
When the shoot dies eugenia seeds will often put out a second or even third shoot.  Don't give up hope until the seed rots

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meiwa dying back
« on: February 27, 2024, 04:21:56 PM »

  Certainly I would love to try this rootstock if you are having success with it.  Odd that we are all finding meiwa to be so finicky.  I am thinking I will try ordering another meiwa this year once I have some new rootstock ready and immediately cut some budwood from it and try grafting.  I have never ordered budwood specifically I am a bit more comfortable with the idea of having a donor tree on hand... even if it might be a short lived one.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu finally producing
« on: February 27, 2024, 11:53:19 AM »
Yup.... I am thinking I will look for some grafted scion and try grafting that on.  I don't want to wait years and years more and get nothing

Is 6mo a good amount of time to let them refrigerate?  I have some I put in last summer, might be time to try sprouting them?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 26, 2024, 01:15:29 PM »
Thanks, Radoslav.  It is nice to hear direct experience from somebody who has tasted this scion/rootstock combination. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: February 26, 2024, 01:13:30 PM »
Wow Brian,

Amazing you and others are growing these trees in greenhouses. Iím amazed that someone has fruited marang in a greenhouse. Iíve been completely unsuccessful in controlling their size. Kwai Muk and keledang seem much easier to manage. Many folks here successfully keep breadfruit as a small garden tree that fruits but mine is huge.

Aloha, Steph

My marang has not fruited yet, but I am hopeful that it will be able to.  If people have compact fruiting breadfruit trees that is really impressive! They are tip bearers, right?  So even with pruning the new growth has enough time to fruit, nice. 

I have been trying to get a keledang growing but despite getting some nice looking seeds, some already starting to germinate, they always die off for me before even putting out a shoot.  Hopefully somebody will sell starter seedlings and I can go that route instead of messing with seeds. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meiwa dying back
« on: February 26, 2024, 09:08:13 AM »
Weird, mine is dying too the same way.  Mine is a grafted one I got from Madison Citrus last year.  I doubt the cause is the same, almost certainly just bad luck, but odd coincidence.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 26, 2024, 09:06:53 AM »
I read study about rootstock for ornamental citruses in pot  and the result was, that the best rootstock is volkameriana, especially for lemons. It gaves compact crown and intense flowering. Oscar Tintori nursery uses exclusively volkameriana for lemons and mandarins.

Radoslav, I had never heard of volkameriana so I looked it up.  The first overview I found describes it as being highly vigorous, like rough lemon, and producing large but poor quality fruit.  Are you sure this is being used for compact lemons?  It sounds like a bad candidate for that given the vigorous description.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: February 26, 2024, 08:28:43 AM »
I have a 10ft kwai muk, 5ft marang, 12ft jackfruit, 1ft cempedak planted in the ground in my greenhouse.  They all seem happy.  I had a pedalai that was also very healthy but I ripped it out when I realized how big they get and that they only fruit on new growth.  I'm not sure the marang has enough room to make fruit but I am giving it at try anyway.  The others I expect should be able to fruit just fine with 12ft pruned height.  The jackfruit is already flowering and I am hoping the kwai muk will flower in the next year or two. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: bonsai kumquat has a nice crop
« on: February 25, 2024, 08:45:33 AM »
Brian, I just realized you have the seedless nagami kumquat fruits. How does the fruit taste compared to the regular nagami (with seeds)?

It tastes identical to regular nagami to me.  So I see no reason to grow seedy nagami when you could grow seedless nordmann.   If you would like to try growing it I can send you some budwood.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 24, 2024, 10:15:10 PM »
Fruit are normal sized on dwarfing rootstocks.  I think most rootstocks have little effect on fruit size.  There are some tables you can find online  showing the details.  My recollection is that a few like rough lemon produce larger but poorer fruit, and the rest are pretty much "normal size"

Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 24, 2024, 09:19:52 PM »
Yes I see, looks very nice!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help about scions
« on: February 24, 2024, 08:33:26 PM »
annona scions seem to last a long time.  I had failed ilama grafts where the scion was still nice and green and I got to try a second time! 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 24, 2024, 08:32:27 PM »
kulasa your picture isn't showing up, if you posted one

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu finally producing
« on: February 24, 2024, 05:51:54 PM »
My seedling abiu has thousands of flower buds again.  Maybe this year it will actually set some fruits

Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 24, 2024, 05:45:45 PM »
Four years later, I have my compact lemon.  I did two cleft grafts and a t-bud of Lisbon lemon on Flying Dragon rootstock and they all took.  I had put the tree in a corner and forgotten about it since Fall and today I noticed it has a couple lemons on it, one nearly ripe.  I think I gave away the parent Lisbon (from FourWinds, unknown rootstock) to my neighbor over the summer when I saw the grafts took on the replacement. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits in American samoa
« on: February 23, 2024, 03:27:02 PM »
Are you allowed to bring plant material back?  I know Hawaii and Puerto Rico have strict inspection and rules that the lower 48 states don't.  It isn't like driving across state lines.

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