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Hi All,

I am looking for Royal Lee and Minnie Royal cherry air-layer tree.  PM me if you have them.

Thanks,
Al

The cal poly pomona nursery had the cherries last time i went. Dont know if they have them in 5 gallon anymore since its late in the season to plant deciduous trees.

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I grafted shiranui onto a mexican sweet lime seedling. It grew gangbusters and set a ton of fruit on its second leaf. 3rd leaf same. The fruit flavor is not my favorite. Hopefully the flavor improves in the years to come.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Plum cherry cross (pluerry)
« on: June 20, 2022, 10:54:52 AM »
It is very productive in low chill climate. I think candy heart pluerry is better tasting imo but it hasnt been as productive for me but its younger tree. It seems pluerries are winners for low chill climates.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB Poly Mango Seeds
« on: June 05, 2022, 05:02:17 PM »
Looking to buy Sweet Tart, Orange Sherbet, piña Colada, Honeykiss, e-4, venus, m-4,buttercream, etc.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: sumo
« on: March 09, 2022, 04:38:18 PM »
I have many Shiranui grafted trees from the UCR CCPP budwood. This one with the consistently large and bumpy neck was from my 2017 budwood purchased. As I mentioned before, the newer orders from CCPP like in 2019, 2020, 2021 seems to have the fruits that are more flat with no neck and also seems to have a lot more seeds (3-6 in each fruit) which is not right to me.

I got my shiranui ccpp budwood in 2020 and it looks like your pics. Huge fruit and neck some seeds. Seems like it wants to be really productive its going to be a branch breaker for sure.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: sumo
« on: March 09, 2022, 07:54:14 AM »
Anyone here know where to get grafted sumo tree from verified sources?

Ive seen some trees labelled shiranui at armstrong in glendora. Might be worth a call.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 09, 2022, 10:32:18 PM »

Goyo626, interesting that you found seeds in the Sumo. How many Sumo do you think you ate for the 10 seeds you found? I picked one very large Sumo (2019 graft) and gave it to a friend, and she said it was the best mandarin she had but she did fine 3 seeds in the one fruit. I plan on picking some Sumo from my older grafted trees (2017) on Vallentine Day and will report back on the total seeds I find in them.

The 10 seeds were from one large fruit. The fruits i have sampled have ranged from completely seedless to 10 seeds with most having 0-3 seeds. The large size of the fruits makes it easy to remove the seeds though. I wonder if the commercial sumo growers bag their trees or if they have a seedless selection of shiranui fruit.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 09, 2022, 03:14:03 PM »
I have been picking some for the last 2 weeks as well but still not sweet, more acid than sweet even though fruit looks ripe color. Last year the best tasting for me was in Jan-Feb. March was to late and fruit was not as juicy.

VI 860   SHIRANUI MANDARIN that i grafted in june 2020. I tried first fruit on 18th of dec. The color had not fully turned. I just wanted to try it to see how it changes over the coming months. No seeds found on this particular fruit. Very acid with a brix of 13. I expect allowing acidity to settle for a month would produce a very good fruit. Texture was “meaty” the individual vesicles are distinct and produce a unique experience compared to other mandarins and oranges. Definitely looking forward to the remaining fruit in a month or so.

Tried the rest of the fruit. Some were seedless others had some seeds. I think the most seedy fruit had like 10 seeds. But do to the size of the fruit it doesnt seem like excessive seeds.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: CCPP Budwood Price Hike
« on: January 20, 2022, 09:57:13 PM »
The calculation of bud wood cost fails to take into basic economics- much less people will buy at $5 per bud. Assuming only 1/10 of the buds will be sold at the new price. won’t the “cost per bud” be $50? They will not be able to recover the cost this way.

Possibly. Does anyone know if commercial citrus growers/nursery usually buy grafted trees or if they usually bud their own trees with either their own or purchased rootstock? Eventually some business has to bud trees so i wonder if these businesses have to by law purchase buds from the ccpp due to quarantine. How many places are there in California that can sell citrus budwood legally?

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Thanks ill give it a shot for at least some of the trees.

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Is now the time to cut off first bloom?

Allow the blooms to fully form and then cut off 1/2 to 2/3 of each panicle. If your tree is young or has weak branches, you can trim the blooms earlier in order to avoid the weight of the blooms to cause the branches to droop. This type of bloom trimming is only for young or non established trees that you don’t want to fruit.

When young mango trees in colder climates blooms, the weight of the panicles causes the branches to droop to a horizontal position which exposes the cambium to the sun which in turn can lead to sunburn. If your branches are already hardened in a horizontal position, you can paint the exposed surfaces with a 50:50 mixture of white paint and water. You’ll have to look up what type of paint as I can’t remember.

Simon

Thanks for the response. I was thinking about getting a second bloom. I read it earlier in a thread that cutting off first bloom at the right time would cause a second bloom to occur. And second bloom is less prone to powdery mildew. Just curious as to when is the right time to do it.

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Is now the time to cut off first bloom?

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I don't see any new buds left on the small scion you have so it will die, get a refund now. Take pictures and file a complaint with the supplier.

Definitely ask for refund/replacement. Just for fun i would take the broken piece clean up the broken section. Top the rootstock then try to regraft. (Assuming scion is still green). Apples IME are very easy to graft.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: CCPP Budwood Price Hike
« on: January 15, 2022, 11:27:13 AM »
Goyo626,

One day, we will think $5 dollars is such a great deal.

I still remeber the day that a dozen of eggs was $0.59 plus a coupon of $0.50, you get it for $0.09.

Its not the change. Its the rate at which it has changed. People who might have got into the hobby by buying through ccpp to avoid hlb may now opt to risk budding from questionable stock because the price is too high. Imagine paying $30+ shipping for 6 buds vs free stock from a friends house or a random tree hanging over fence.

Does anyone remember pre hlb quarantine how the crfg scion exchange was in terms of citrus?. I never attended one but i imagine at least 3 tables worth of citrus budwood.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: CCPP Budwood Price Hike
« on: January 14, 2022, 03:35:01 PM »
I remember several years ago the price per bud was $0.75. Then i thought $1.50 was a lot. Now $5 is prohibitive. All its going to do is make people risk grafting budwood from different sources.

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Low chill stone fruit scions
« on: January 05, 2022, 11:06:16 AM »
Pm sent

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Double delight just didnt bloom and set fruit well here.  Every year it gave a lousy crop.  It may have had the russetting issue too.

Opposite of what the online descriptions said about heavy bearing.  It may have needed more chill hours or may have been blooming later than others and weather was affecting it.  Cant remember for sure but i think it was a late bloomer and that may have been a problem with the heat or something here.  Dunno, it just was the worst producer of any of the peach or nectarines for me. 

The august pride is so good all around and doesnt have skin issues so it makes sense for me to switch to mostly peaches.  I kept a few nectarine branches but have worked all my nectarine trees mostly with peach now.

Agreed on double delight. Poor crop. It also gets hammered by fig beetles (which funnily enough never mess with my fig tree).

Anyone have any experience with peachy keen or desert delight?

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Good stuff indeed.


Also looking forward to the Spice Zee Nectaplum!



There are better varieties. Spice zee is a beautiful tree with beautiful looking fruit. But the taste is not show-off with

Any low chill varieties have a better taste than spice zee? If so, which ones?

Which variety of fruit are you wanting?  Peach or nectarine or ? 

August pride peach is pretty great.  Goldkist and tropic gokd apricots also great.  Mid pride, arctic star, snow queen, all good ones.  You can graft spicy Z to your other frees to try it.  Just hack off a big branch and pop in a bark graft.  This stuff is rediculously easy to multigraft.

I have august pride, hasnt produced much for me. I grafted tropic gold waiting for it to produce. Mid pride, arctic star, and snow queen i have. Arctic star wins in production. Snow queen in flavor. Spice zee i thought was stellar best white “ nectarine” ive tried.

Im looking for a nectarine or peach (preferably yellow). Low chill. Highly rated in flavor. Im okay with a middling producer. I was looking at peachy keen but i haven't seen a lot of info to make it a must buy.

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Good stuff indeed.


Also looking forward to the Spice Zee Nectaplum!



There are better varieties. Spice zee is a beautiful tree with beautiful looking fruit. But the taste is not show-off with

Any low chill varieties have a better taste than spice zee? If so, which ones?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: December 20, 2021, 11:27:49 AM »
I have been picking some for the last 2 weeks as well but still not sweet, more acid than sweet even though fruit looks ripe color. Last year the best tasting for me was in Jan-Feb. March was to late and fruit was not as juicy.

VI 860   SHIRANUI MANDARIN that i grafted in june 2020. I tried first fruit on 18th of dec. The color had not fully turned. I just wanted to try it to see how it changes over the coming months. No seeds found on this particular fruit. Very acid with a brix of 13. I expect allowing acidity to settle for a month would produce a very good fruit. Texture was “meaty” the individual vesicles are distinct and produce a unique experience compared to other mandarins and oranges. Definitely looking forward to the remaining fruit in a month or so.   

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this a Sumo fruit?
« on: October 31, 2021, 11:48:03 AM »
It seems shiranui is very vigorous, precocious, and heavy bearing. On my 1yr old graft it set 20 fruit and broke the branch. Hopefully the taste is top tier.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this a Sumo fruit?
« on: October 31, 2021, 10:20:29 AM »
Sc4001992, did your shiranui have seeds? I was reading the info/field notes on ccpp (https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/CRC4249.html) and it makes an observation that the shiranui fruit from their tree had seeds. Also the second pic on that page kind of looks like Ericsc pic.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this a Sumo fruit?
« on: October 30, 2021, 07:36:56 PM »
This is shiranui (sumo) fruit from ccpp budwood. Do any of the fruit have the typical sumo shape?




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Kind of looks like ruby x supreme.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any seedless/low Guava?
« on: October 01, 2021, 04:49:46 PM »
The only one i have heard of is dolores seedless that was sold by JF but i never tried it


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