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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu finally producing
« on: Today at 11:53:19 AM »
Yup.... I am thinking I will look for some grafted scion and try grafting that on.  I don't want to wait years and years more and get nothing

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Is 6mo a good amount of time to let them refrigerate?  I have some I put in last summer, might be time to try sprouting them?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 26, 2024, 01:15:29 PM »
Thanks, Radoslav.  It is nice to hear direct experience from somebody who has tasted this scion/rootstock combination. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: February 26, 2024, 01:13:30 PM »
Wow Brian,

Amazing you and others are growing these trees in greenhouses. Iím amazed that someone has fruited marang in a greenhouse. Iíve been completely unsuccessful in controlling their size. Kwai Muk and keledang seem much easier to manage. Many folks here successfully keep breadfruit as a small garden tree that fruits but mine is huge.

Aloha, Steph

My marang has not fruited yet, but I am hopeful that it will be able to.  If people have compact fruiting breadfruit trees that is really impressive! They are tip bearers, right?  So even with pruning the new growth has enough time to fruit, nice. 

I have been trying to get a keledang growing but despite getting some nice looking seeds, some already starting to germinate, they always die off for me before even putting out a shoot.  Hopefully somebody will sell starter seedlings and I can go that route instead of messing with seeds. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meiwa dying back
« on: February 26, 2024, 09:08:13 AM »
Weird, mine is dying too the same way.  Mine is a grafted one I got from Madison Citrus last year.  I doubt the cause is the same, almost certainly just bad luck, but odd coincidence.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 26, 2024, 09:06:53 AM »
I read study about rootstock for ornamental citruses in pot  and the result was, that the best rootstock is volkameriana, especially for lemons. It gaves compact crown and intense flowering. Oscar Tintori nursery uses exclusively volkameriana for lemons and mandarins.

Radoslav, I had never heard of volkameriana so I looked it up.  The first overview I found describes it as being highly vigorous, like rough lemon, and producing large but poor quality fruit.  Are you sure this is being used for compact lemons?  It sounds like a bad candidate for that given the vigorous description.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: February 26, 2024, 08:28:43 AM »
I have a 10ft kwai muk, 5ft marang, 12ft jackfruit, 1ft cempedak planted in the ground in my greenhouse.  They all seem happy.  I had a pedalai that was also very healthy but I ripped it out when I realized how big they get and that they only fruit on new growth.  I'm not sure the marang has enough room to make fruit but I am giving it at try anyway.  The others I expect should be able to fruit just fine with 12ft pruned height.  The jackfruit is already flowering and I am hoping the kwai muk will flower in the next year or two. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: bonsai kumquat has a nice crop
« on: February 25, 2024, 08:45:33 AM »
Brian, I just realized you have the seedless nagami kumquat fruits. How does the fruit taste compared to the regular nagami (with seeds)?

It tastes identical to regular nagami to me.  So I see no reason to grow seedy nagami when you could grow seedless nordmann.   If you would like to try growing it I can send you some budwood.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 24, 2024, 10:15:10 PM »
Fruit are normal sized on dwarfing rootstocks.  I think most rootstocks have little effect on fruit size.  There are some tables you can find online  showing the details.  My recollection is that a few like rough lemon produce larger but poorer fruit, and the rest are pretty much "normal size"

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 24, 2024, 09:19:52 PM »
Yes I see, looks very nice!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help about scions
« on: February 24, 2024, 08:33:26 PM »
annona scions seem to last a long time.  I had failed ilama grafts where the scion was still nice and green and I got to try a second time! 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 24, 2024, 08:32:27 PM »
kulasa your picture isn't showing up, if you posted one

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu finally producing
« on: February 24, 2024, 05:51:54 PM »
My seedling abiu has thousands of flower buds again.  Maybe this year it will actually set some fruits

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: February 24, 2024, 05:45:45 PM »
Four years later, I have my compact lemon.  I did two cleft grafts and a t-bud of Lisbon lemon on Flying Dragon rootstock and they all took.  I had put the tree in a corner and forgotten about it since Fall and today I noticed it has a couple lemons on it, one nearly ripe.  I think I gave away the parent Lisbon (from FourWinds, unknown rootstock) to my neighbor over the summer when I saw the grafts took on the replacement. 



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits in American samoa
« on: February 23, 2024, 03:27:02 PM »
Are you allowed to bring plant material back?  I know Hawaii and Puerto Rico have strict inspection and rules that the lower 48 states don't.  It isn't like driving across state lines.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Cross Species Grafting
« on: February 23, 2024, 03:19:40 PM »
I have had two or three "crops" but each was only 1-3 fruits.  They were a bit smaller than the ones in your photo. 

I only have one regular COTRG and two orange COTRG.  They are all flowering about now and I have been trying to touch all the flowers on both types to aid pollination but they aren't exactly on the same schedule it is hard to say how effective it is.

If the red ends up being as good as the orange was that is fantastic! 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Cross Species Grafting
« on: February 23, 2024, 01:27:46 PM »
I've only gotten a few fruits from each but the orange ones were excellent and the red ones very bland.  Might be luck of the draw with seedling genetics.   I actually have two orange COTRGs and when the second one fruits I'll have a better sample size. 

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Yeah most of the pre-germinated seeds I got last month are already putting out leaves.  Nice stuff

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are black and white sapote worth it
« on: February 23, 2024, 12:07:13 PM »
Amazing. I heard people say a good cherimoya is one of the best fruits around.  If you guys are saying a good white sapote beats it that is quite a statement.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Cross Species Grafting
« on: February 23, 2024, 12:05:33 PM »
I hope you have success on the subsequent tries!

I have a decent size COTRG now that I will probably trash because the orange type is so much better.  I am just giving it a few more crops to be certain.  If I can use it as a multi-eugenia rootstock it might be worth keeping around for that. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Two one gallon pawpaws have shipped . . .
« on: February 23, 2024, 12:03:43 PM »
I ordered some pawpaws (seedling) from there also, and they said they won't be shipping to me until April!  I guess its warmer where you are :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Cross Species Grafting
« on: February 22, 2024, 10:54:22 PM »
Any idea what the success rate of grafting self-type is?  Like regular COTRG onto itself.  Maybe eugenias have low take rate?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit grafting
« on: February 22, 2024, 10:30:57 PM »
I had a pedalai in my greenhouse and ripped it out when I realized how big they get.  Kwai muk and cempedek seem like the most viable ones for containers.  I have a marang but it looks like it is going to get massive and I will probably have to rip it out too before it fruits but I have hope.  My greenhouse ceiling is about 11ft up, so thst is the limit.  I think Ben mentioned in another thread that marang is tip bearing also which isnt good for a tree that requires aggressive pruning.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Cross Species Grafting
« on: February 22, 2024, 06:20:47 PM »
That's a shame.  They look so similar, too.  With all the new eugenias floating aroud now it would be nice to have a cocktail tree rather than a million individual plants. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit grafting
« on: February 22, 2024, 03:41:30 PM »
I have most of the artocarpus you listed, SplorKeLZ, but I assumed they were not graft compatible so I never even considered it.  I have never grafted jackfruit anyway so I don't know what my success rate would be with jackfruit-on-jackfruit but I could try some of the other grafts at some point.  Some of these have really different growth habits I suspect it would not work out well.  For example, pedalai leaves are like 100x the area/size of kwai muk leaves

Where can you get scion for all these varieties you mentioned??  I have only ever found seeds & seedlings
ahh, that is the question

Yeah these are not as available as you might hope.  You can find marang, cempedek, kwai muk, pedalai seedlings occasionally but I've never seen even a seedling keledang or lakoocha for sale in mainland US, much less mature scion or cloned trees. 

I mean, if you do find them let us know :)


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