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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 08, 2023, 12:01:34 AM »
Wanted to say that after talking with many people and doing trials myself, I now come to the conclusion that yangmei will do well in zones 8 and up. Now I don't know the max though as chill hours seem to be required. I know many people who are hesitant to try yangmei down in south FL and PR as the lack of chill hours may be a problem. Now, there are many cultivars, so I think it's only a matter of time till we find one that does well in tropical climates.
I'm getting seeds of a yangmei plant in hawaii that is self fruitful! Stoked!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 07, 2023, 11:10:35 PM »
I was just admiring my in ground seedlings today. From now on I'm going from 4" to in the ground with shade cages for the first year

Eugenia leitonii 1, 3g- 50$
Desert peach, 2, 5g- 80$
*Eugenia pyriformis 5g, 1- 100$
Kadsura spp, 3g - 5, 50$
Lucs Garcinia 5g -1, 50$
Honey drop jaboticaba 5g, 50$
Paulista Jaboticaba 5g, 75$
Ice Cream Bean 5g, 5- 50$
*Davidson plum 5g, 1- 80$
Syzygium jambos,Rose Apple5g, 4- 50$
*Syzygium paniculatum, Lilly Pilly (Large Fruited), 5g, 3- 40$
*Myrcianthes pungens, Guabiju, 10g, 10-100$
*Eugenia selloi, Pitangatuba (fruiting) 5g, 3- 125$
Pouteria lucuma, Lucuma 1g, 10- 35$
Pouteria viridis, Green Sapote 1g, 10- 35$
* Jaboticaba 4”, 10- 20$
Campomanesia lineatifolia, 4”, 10, 25$
Myrica rubra, 4”, 1, 60$

*Babaco Papaya, 4”, 4, 30$

Here's a list and prices of all that I am planning to bring. Let me know if there's anything else you might be interested in.


Thanks Kevin! Was great to meet everyone and see what you've got going on in your garden. Super beautiful and even more motivation for me to start fertilizing more regularly. 

Howdy everyone. 
The Monterey Bay Chapter of the California Rare Fruit Growers is holding it's first Fruit-A-Palooza. The event is unfortunately sold out for admission but the vendors booths will be publicly accessible without a ticket.  I will be there selling lots of rare plants as well as 5 and 10g plants of a select number of species. This is a great opportunity to get really rare subtropicals that are ready to plant without driving to Southern California. I'll post an availability list soon. There will also be other vendors there selling a variety of uncommon and subtropical fruits!  Put it on your calendar for this year and the next year! Looking forward to seeing this event develop into the norcal "green scene".  I'll be posting a plant list of what I'll be bringing to the event. Happy spring/summer!

Picked up some plants from Nate, everything looks great.
Great seller, highly recommend.

yee haw! Glad to see! Enjoy the plants!

Hey Nate,

If you ever have seeds available for anything that would work in Central Florida Zone 9b, let me know.

I normally try to buy in multiples of 21 because I use 21-count seed trays to start most of my tropical seeds.

Particularly interested in the Orange CORG.

Also, love your stickers! You have a fantastic artist :) I need that Jaboticaba sticker now.

Hey Abirkett,

Thank you! She totally crushes it on botanical art and is an amazing tattoo artist as well!  I usually don't sell seeds but maybe one day when I have an abundance of fruit that outpaces my propagation capabilities, haha.  Hope you have a rad one!


Should have a real nice spread of Florida mangoes to sample.

Whoaaa sick! Always wanted to try those florida flavors.  Stoked that its just this weekend. I'll be bringing some fresh garlic and garlic scape pesto, some Babaco Papaya and Tropical Apricot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FEIJOA (pineapple guava) questions
« on: May 25, 2023, 10:44:39 AM »
Something I've noticed is that fruits that do well in ca zone 9b (babaco, etc). are susceptible to fruit flies out there. Are Feijoa sensitive to fruit flies in fl?

Hey everyone, just clipped all the scion and I'm wrapping them up. I've got a lot of terminal growth scions that are all bendy from being on droopy low hanging branches. Therefore if you were to graft them the graft would be facing sideways or in some instances upside down.  I think they are likely viable in order to gain the genetics and regraft when it grows new wood. Long term, probably a pretty weak structure.  I'm selling them for $4.00 a piece.  I also have a lot of non-terminal wood for sale at 5.00.  I'll be shipping out tomorrow and orders will close tomorrow morning.

Thanks for your interest all. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pouteria lucuma, 'Pecan Pie' Scions
« on: May 21, 2023, 06:13:44 PM »
Hey everyone, just clipped all the scion and I'm wrapping them up. I've got a lot of terminal growth scions that are all bendy from being on droopy low hanging branches. Therefore if you were to graft them the graft would be facing sideways or in some instances upside down.  I think they are likely viable in order to gain the genetics and regraft when it grows new wood. Long term, probably a pretty weak structure.  I'm selling them for $4.00 a piece.  I also have a lot of non-terminal wood for sale at 5.00.  I'll be shipping out tomorrow and orders will close tomorrow morning.

Thanks for your interest all. 

Dang it, put it in the wrong section.

looks like great selection.

Thanks Lance! Stoked to be focusing a bit more.

Hi Nate, do you have thinner scions of the pecan pie that you’d be able to cut?

Yep I could make that happen for you. How thin?

Honestly not sure. The specimens we saw in the jungle were solitary as far as we saw but wouldn't be surprised if there were others around we didn't see. I think there's only one tree at fruit and spice in FL? Can anyone weigh in on that?

All pouteria are in 1g and tall 4" pots for the rest of em. Pictures on the pages reflect average size of the plants!

Howdy all.

Been a long winter of rain around here which has given me some time to travel, collect seeds, and grow out a ton of stuff for a big spring release. 
See below for the new inventory and if you are interested in reading a bit about my recent trip to Colombia, I posted up a sweet write up about the time there with a bunch of awesome high quality pictures. Check it out! Can't wait to do more posts like this.

Pouteria lucuma, 'Pecan Pie' Scion
This is a preorder intded to allow for the freshest scion to be harvested and shipped within 12 hours of clipping.  I am breaking up the pricing this time to allow for terminal wood at 15$ and non-terminal wood for 5$.  If you bought scion in the past and didn't have luck, please reach out for a discount code. 

Pouteria lucuma, Lucuma seedlings
Lots of fresh Pouteria lucuma seedlings that are ready to be potted up amidst all the spring action.  They have been transplanted a couple of weeks ago and could probably be moved into 5g's if you are in a warm climate. Seeds from Portugal.

Pouteria viridis , Green Sapote seedlings
Got a whole bunch of awesome Cholul seedlings from Guatemala. They are vigorous and have recently been potted up. They could use a little bit of time in a 1g or likely be popped into a 3g or 5g. 

Campomanesia lineatifolia, Paililo
Seedlings from a a few trees (I was the only one to collect from multiple specimens). This tree is somewhat cold hardy and totally delicious. Think of a sweet lemonade fruit! Although, don't suck on the seeds too long because they have a serious spice!

Inga sp. 'Santa Cruz'
A cold hardy and productive Inga. sp. that has been in santa cruz for quite some time.  The originally tree was planted by Axel and these are seedlings from the progeny of that tree. It's cold hardy as was seen this previous winter and delicious, was stoked to clean all the fruits (eat them) haha.

Eugenia involucrata (sp?) Orange
Seedlings of my Eugenia sp. Orange from Marcos. This is from the 3rd round of fruiting that this plant has had and they are delicious! No cold damage just defoliation on the plant, a totally amazing specimen for zone pushers.

Plinia inflata, Mulchi
Seedlings from this amazing tree pictured here.  Absolutely awesome tree with some pretty good fruits!

Myrica rubra, Yangmei
A batch of seedlings from Calmei fruits. Growing fast and ready for a pot up!

Annona salzmannii, Beach Sugar Apple
Seedlings from Florida grown fruit.  Really awesome for the opportunity to grow a plant that is being stablizied through domestication. Domesticated plants have been reported to grow better in controlled environments rather than wild collected species.

Rubus neomexicanus, New Mexico Raspberry
A delicious Raspberry collected by Brian Laufer.  Looking forward to trying this one and don't know a bunch about it!

Monstera deliciosa var. Borsigiana
Want a screaming deal on this awesome variegated Monstera that is in perpetual high demand? Now's your opportunity to score one for a great price!

Thanks for the continued support all, looking forward to putting together a review of how the winter treated the orchard. Should have something maybe end of spring when things calm down a bit, busy time of year round here! Hope spring is treating everyone well.


I think its used in a diluted form in some Korean Natural Farming practices. Lots of trace minerals and supposedly good for plants in a diluted form.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dream greenhouse build help
« on: May 09, 2023, 10:52:37 AM »
Double wall inflated poly is one of the best and most efficient outer coverings. Totally reccomend it.

Ultimately I think it comes down to plants evolving different functional traits that help them to survive their environment. Such as plants that are capable of withstanding freezing temperatures to prevent cavitation which would result in damaged xylem. I did a thesis studying the evolutionary biology of serpentine endemic plants which have evolved to only grow on toxic soil substrates. A lot of variables could have been at play as to why, results were inconcuslive.  Ultimately though, these plants have evolved to grow in different environments with many variables that have influenced their growth. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Psidium germination tips
« on: April 26, 2023, 04:09:07 PM »
I have found psidiums like high humidity to Germinate well. I use moist but not soaking coco coir in a sealed tupperware container with the seeds just covered in medium. Get great germination with most species

First fruit off my Psidium sp. 'Green Cerrado'!!!

It came off without any force, but was pretty green on the inside. Completely insipid and unpalatable, lol!! Pretty resinous and astringent. Not many other flavor notes to include unfortunately. Hopefully will get some fruit that is potentially riper on the next plant?

Who is gonna start the campomanesia growers association? Kevin? Haha

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Amazon seed drop
« on: April 18, 2023, 10:47:39 AM »
Well you wanted 20 percent of my favorite fruit seed. You said it yourself. You waited a week to take them out of the bag. You left TROPICAL fruit seeds in a bag for a week. Yes. I guess I got upset that you let 100 free seeds of my favorite fruit that I spent ver a year to find, market, source, and collect seeds.  You complained while I was on another expedition in the middle of the jungle, about free seeds.
I shipped all those seeds back to the USA for free. Sent them to you for free.
You let them sit for a week and then you and and your friend come up with some weird forum posts to bad mouth me. Lol.

Sorry Joe, I think you misread my post. 
I don't think it's a valuable use of my time to continue to engage with you as reality seems to continually be distorted.  Good luck with everything.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Amazon seed drop
« on: April 18, 2023, 10:20:53 AM »
I had people reach out to me after posting saying they had received similar unviable product and were faced with aggression when bringing it up. I didnt need to bad mouth you, I just shared screenshots of the conversation to my friends to try and understand if I was in the wrong in some way. If that's something you want to post, then by all means. I haven't said or done anything that would reflect poorly on me.

You would expect someone would package seeds properly in order to survive transit for at least a week, which I was well within when going to sow my seeds.  I have not had this problem with other vendors.

Your interpretation of the situation seems to have changed from the time we were on the trip to after the trip. I'm not here to try and analyze what reality you have concocted and are living in, but I know what we talked about and what I was told (which somehow is completely different to your memory). I also know how you responded to me after being ignored two times and then after a third time being more firm with my message but not unreasonable (I literally didn't ask for anything and in my original ignored messages said it wasn't a problem but I wanted to let you know). AFAIK I'm the only one who paid to have the seeds cleaned as Diego asked me to pay and I gladly did.  Was I not there when we collected seeds from the wild, when our guides harvested fruit for us, when I picked up fruit off the ground and put into a communal bag?

After your first aggression filled message you said, "Thanks for making my day". Which was something that I heard you say multiple times when dealing with your seed drama on the trip. It kind of clicked that you seem to like to create conflict and stir things up.  After hearing from other customers that you have given them the same treatment, it only makes me feel glad that I spoke up. I feel as if people too often are afraid of speaking out against poor service and treatment due to fear of retribution or community ousting, yet they are likely joined by a number of others who have similar experiences. 

You were very generous during the trip, yet when you got back and sent the seeds 3 weeks after you said you would. There seemed to be a shift and I was caught off guard saying that I didn't pay for a number of things you freely and generously offered.  I can't read minds and if it was a problem, like I said, it is something we probably could have talked about and gotten to the bottom of amicably.

Don't know what to tell you Joe, but when you treat people poorly you should probably expect they are going to talk about it. Hope you are well and can find clarity.

Agreed Rob, but usually when I bring up viability issues it's usually a polite conversation...which is exactly the opposite of my experience with Joe. Even after establishing what I thought was a friendship.

Awesome new drop.  Always coming through with quality seeds packaged well. Thanks for doing a great job kameron!

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