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There is a local grower in SB who has a really nice potted one. They've had it for 8 years or something from when they lived in RI, and then trucked it over when they moved, cool story. I donated a 25g pot to them / it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Champa Nursery
« on: December 01, 2023, 02:51:54 PM »
Yeah, I go to Champa all the time. They're really not an online outfit, so far as I can tell, and that's a new addition to their business within the last 6-8 months or so.

They're legit, a no BS sort of place with no frills.

Don't really know their shipping situation, or if it's just some kind of drop-shipping from someone else.

In any case, their plants are very good quality, cheap, and clearly direct from FL.

Edit: it's a bit of a haul for you, but recommend just driving up there. It's worth the trip. I think they will honor the black friday still, they let their labor day sale run all the way til now. I didn't see cherilata when I was there last, but did have tons of grafted cherimoya and atemoya so maybe it was there. Didn't look closely.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Espaliered pomegranate does not bloom
« on: December 01, 2023, 09:49:23 AM »
Poms flower at the tips, so, if you're pruning there then that could be your issue. I'd personally like to see it bush out off the wall about 1', so let it get a bit bigger in any case. It's very small compared to even a standard planted pomegranate "bush" shape. It needs to bulk up.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit after 11 years in SoCal!!
« on: November 30, 2023, 05:30:40 PM »
Congratulations! That is absolutely amazing, and hilarious that whoever owns the building / does the landscaping is letting them continue there. They must know what they are?

They look really out of place being so tall against that wall.

Is that a south facing wall?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: BLACK FRIDAY SALE!
« on: November 30, 2023, 02:10:19 PM »
Couldn't resist adding a few more plants to the collection, looking forward to them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: November 30, 2023, 01:55:15 PM »
Did the E. tenuipedunculata make it it through the summer? Itís by far my favorite Eugenia with beautiful leaves both mature and immature.  I just hope the fruit is halfway decent and can survive our full sun next year.

It's still very much alive, didn't grow a whole lot this year, but it did grow a ton of roots. I think you gave it to me in a 1g, and it's now in a 3g square iirc, and doing nicely. It's in the greenhouse so it should continue growing for winter. I'll get a photo of it next time I remember.

I have read the fruit quality is very good on it. I'm hoping to get some more seeds of it soon so I have a mate for it in the case it's not self-fruitful.

I find most eugenia really accelerate as they get into 3-5g size, so I hope it spends all winter rooting and blasts off hard in Spring.

Hopefully I can get down to see your collection in 2024 as well!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: November 29, 2023, 07:09:35 PM »
Your C. Phaea is a bit bigger than mine and has larger leaves, probably mine will get bigger as it gets older like my C. Reitziana (fingers crossed for self sterile for that one as I only have one of that plant). 

The E. Azeda I noticed is a very slow grower as well, what I do like about that one though is it did not seem to mind to be in direct sun unlike some Eugenias.  Speaking only from end of summer heat experience though but seems promising even if it takes us forever to get to fruiting stage lol.

My phaea were in 50% shade till just recently when I peeled the shade cloth off for winter. Greenhouse gets ripping hot daily now, into the high 80s.

I have protected my Azeda from full sun, but it sounds really promising if I can introduce it to full light... But oh well... Probably will leave it in the GH till it gets too big for that, so I guess 45 years.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Espaliered pomegranate does not bloom
« on: November 29, 2023, 07:08:06 PM »
Looks pretty small, and that it's not getting enough sun? Give it a good dose of fertilizer and let it get bigger.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: November 29, 2023, 02:15:12 PM »
Some Eugenia / greenhouse details

Red repanda went into a 7 gallon square, it'll be outside fighting frost from now on

Black repanda is really full of fruit

Stipitata soraria is really slow going, but it's trying

Eugenia Cribrata starting to grow better in a bigger pot

Eugenia calycina putting on a winter show, bummer they won't set / complete with how cold it is

Blue guac from SHV, who said they grow fast / well. He wasn't wrong

Campomanesia Phaea are very quick growers

Eugenia azeda, good lord I'll be a year older by the time one new leaf opens. This one is SLOW

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: November 26, 2023, 07:26:50 PM »
Spaugh which varieties would you recommend for someone out of the growing zone? I just want fresh dragonfruit!

S8 is a very reliable performer, but it's later, and likes heat, but honestly Brad was right about this for years now. It's probably the only one worth having, the rest are novelty in comparison to how reliable s8 is, and how sweet the flavor is. S8 though is not that cold hardy, so don't leave it outdoors in SC too late.

This said, here is my experience with the varieties I do have.

I have really good luck with Asunta, it is the first to flower, it sets almost every single flower, and the fruit has crazy long hang time... It's just not that awesome of a cultivar, unfortunately. Flavor is meh. I think most all of the purple flowers are "just ok" on flavor.

Cosmic Charlie is good for me as well, reliable, but it's self-sterile. This is a serious drawback. I don't really bother collecting DF anymore, and the only reason I keep this one is that it's my biggest plant and is somehow more cold resistant, and more disease resistant than others.

Purple Haze is good flavor, decent productivity, self fertile, but super prone to rust.

Dark star is great flavor, but productivity is not great. It doesn't grow that well for some reason, maybe my roots have issues dunno.

If I had to pick another one for the list to collect, I would like American Beauty.

I used to be crazy about dragonfruit but have backed off. I will probably break down some of my stands next year and chuck the plants in the woods to die and then re-do them with all S8 (and concrete posts).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gopher Gold
« on: November 25, 2023, 11:58:01 AM »
Anyone figured out the best way to catch moles? I never had them up till about a year and change ago. They are way harder than gophers for me.

I did get one this morning using Trapline mole traps, one in either direction of the tunnel. I have occasionally gotten one in a Gopherhawk but total luck, you can't deploy them that shallow most of the time and it was just wandering down a gopher tunnnel I would guess.

Any mole tips appreciated.

35gal trash can and a pump from home depot

This looks like a simple solution that I think I can jury rig at home, I have a pretty high gpm water pump sitting around somewhere in my bins (I'd set it up to fertigate an indoor grow tent but didn't end up using it).

I tried using the hose end sprayer and didn't even get through one watering cycle before it plugged up. I have gallons of free nutrients to use up somehow and need some way to reliably dose it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless Che - Dropping Fruit
« on: November 23, 2023, 02:47:32 PM »
K-Rimes and nana7b, not sure if now is a good time to be grafting Che, may I purchase a few male cuttings from either of you in a couple of months?

Graft in Spring

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless Che - Dropping Fruit
« on: November 22, 2023, 02:50:21 PM »
Will that turn the fruit into seeded which is less desirable?

Guy in town in SB here had same story, lots of fruitlets all dropped, then he got a male and has fruit now. His fruit have seeds, but they're like little blades, I barely notice them and eat handfuls of them when they're in season. I am going to see if I can sprout some che's this winter.
Aw man! I bought it because it was advertised as being seedless. "Little blades" doesn't sound appealing.

Not sharp in the mouth or anything, just saying they're super small and thin. It's like if you hit a grain of rice with a hammer on an anvil. I really don't notice them while eating che. I wanted to spit them out to save but couldn't really "find" them while eating.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless Che - Dropping Fruit
« on: November 22, 2023, 02:20:08 PM »
Will that turn the fruit into seeded which is less desirable?

Guy in town in SB here had same story, lots of fruitlets all dropped, then he got a male and has fruit now. His fruit have seeds, but they're like little blades, I barely notice them and eat handfuls of them when they're in season. I am going to see if I can sprout some che's this winter.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless Che - Dropping Fruit
« on: November 22, 2023, 01:58:17 PM »
Need male

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: November 22, 2023, 01:11:10 PM »
What's your assessment of the the black eugenia repanda?  Does it need a second plant for pollination?

It is self fruitful, extremely fragrant flowers, fruits and flowers at the same time. The fruit is small, and a bit underwhelming, but they're tasty morsels. I keep it for the fragrance and my bees adore it. I have a red repanda coming up that should flower next year, and I am curious if fruit size will improve with cross pollination. It sets basically 100% of flowers.

It is a more tart eugenia, but yeah, bulletproof grower, frost tolerant.

What opuntia variety are you growing in the third pic from the bottom?

That optunia was here when I moved in, it has never flowered, it was discarded by the landlord decades ago and took root. I do have some Bush2Beach's selected varieties I am growing on a shallow soil shelf, great sun year round, but I don't water there so it grow slowly. I need to gather a bunch more paddles of good fruit and go to town up there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 21, 2023, 06:50:50 PM »
Why is water such an issue down there? I looked up the city rates, and it's about the same pricing as in the Bay Area.

It's one thing to water a small 1/4 acre plot, entirely another to do 1 acre of orchard +. Temps are MUCH higher, and humidity MUCH lower than bay area.

Plus all the maintenance of an orchard irrigation set-up.

Wow, thanks! I don't even know what most of what you wrote means but I'd like to know. I'll read up and get back here.

In the most simple explanation, people are saying chainsaw your tree down some to a stump or low branches, then get graft some new varieties onto it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning Young Multi-trunk Jabos - Help
« on: November 20, 2023, 07:49:05 PM »
Awesome thank you both! Sounds like a plan to leave them all and create a jabo goblet :) I never would've thought of that. Thanks again!

Be careful to not be too aggressive with bending, do it gently over time, I have found jabo branches can tear easily using this technique.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning Young Multi-trunk Jabos - Help
« on: November 20, 2023, 01:34:41 PM »
My plan of attack would be to pop some holes in the pot and bend the stalks away from each other, ending up with a kind of goblet shape - then let the stalks go straight up once separated. You'll need to periodically clean out the centre growth.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee Thread
« on: November 19, 2023, 06:16:18 PM »
Thatís a great looking tree!  Impressive growth in just three years.  I swear, Iím doing something wrong.  Maybe I should stop planting twigs and get that 15 gallon sweetheart lychee recently posted for sale.  I would love to get just one good sized Lychee tree on my property. Is that too much to ask?  Everything else grows fine.

I think the bigger airlayers may indeed be worth it, but don't be convinced by the size of the pot. I bought one of those 20g Sweethearts from Champa for cheap recently and rootball was tiny, no bigger than a 3g, chilling in a 20G for $$$.

Planted a 3g Brewster at my gf's family house in Goleta about 3 years ago and it is only now accelerating, first few years basically did nothing. Takes awhile, it seems.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: November 19, 2023, 05:08:18 PM »
Super awesome, K-Rimes! Have you tried Campomanesia guazumifolia? Recently got seeds from Bellamy, just because they were on clearance.

I had one tiny fruit, looked like it wasn't pollinated right or something. It tasted like eucalyptus extract... But I am not going to judge it on that, apparently it's very good! I need another one for cross pollination is my guess, even with adding bees to my yard I didn't get any fruit this year.

The tree was 6' tall and really nice then was decapitated by a falling dragonfruit trellis so it's still kinda in rebuild mode...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: November 19, 2023, 01:21:32 PM »
Your "yard" is amazing! Can see you have put a lot of time and energy into your creation. Must be fun wandering around, finding new growth, flowers, and fruit. If you ever get lost on your property, should be able to survive for a while.

Have to ask, does the owl help?


It is definitely fun wandering around, I spend hours doing it a day I'd guess!

Regarding the owl, considering I see birds land on its head, no, I wouldn't say it helps!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: November 18, 2023, 07:17:45 PM »
A rare gloomy day, but felt like a nice time to update. I actually really like this time of year for all the fall colors, there are no other deciduous trees in the area.

This really was my best year yet in the yard.

Cocktail apple with pink lady midstock, pink pearl, cox's orange pippin, and white winter pearmain, i258 in the pot, there is a newly planted corg to the left not shown, and a bunch of random eugenia sprouting up in that island (I spit a lot of seeds there)

Long leaf guava left, a severely mite'd grafted vermillion pitanga that has almost rebuilt its canopy on right, on far left another cocktail apple with the same as above and Goodland, Akero, Regent, Cinnamon Spice. The apple REALLY put on weight this year

Better view of the apple, a contorted mulberry, grimal in the pot on the left, yangmei seedling in ground tucked to the left of the apple

Some figs foregrund, dwarf mulberry with pakistani and himalayan (the lighter green leaves), white mulberry background

White mulberry on the right, Skittle guava on the far corner, pots from right to left: skittles guava, orange corg, campomanesia guazumifolia, on the deck calycina, el dorado corg, cocktail corg, red pitanga

Can see from above the types on cocktail corg

Dragonfruits put on a new canopy, yellowing from cold and wet, black eugenia repanda in the pot

Black repanda fruit, it's a lot bigger this year

Some pineapple sizing up in the gh

Red jabo really put on a nice bloom after root pruning

The other side of the house, clockwise from top left corner: persian mulberry, cocktail feijoa behind it, pitanga (sir prize avo and unknown guava behind it), pear in the cage, small cherimoya seedling and myrica californica in ground, kohala longan, kari starfruit, blueberries, spicy thai peppers, pawpaws, 15g on the right psidium mytoides, square pot cedar bay cherry, brokaw hass avo. Hard to see a: white sapote seedling, red pitanga, lucuma seedling, tobacco in the garden beds.

Greenhouse is kind of empty this year, surprisingly, all the bigger jabos have to tough it outside this winter. Real big campmanesia hirsuta in the middle of the photo, put on tons of weight this year

Unknown guava left, sir prize avo looking bad, inga growing back from roots, that seedling cherimoya

Rootstock pineapple guava looks good, successful graft shown

Fig forest really came up nicely, a deer must've came by and decimated that himalayan honeysuckle (oh well)

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