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Huh thats interesting. Atlanta is zone 8b but I see a wide variety of opuntia around town that survived for years in the ground: we have extremely wet winters too.

Perhaps a grex of species - I have some seeds from spineless opuntia (assuming they have glochids) as well as some hardy seeds from NJ (from experimental farm network which has at least 3 hardy opuntia seed selections). Honestly Id prefer regular degular spines over glochids lol.

Its been said on this thread or another that persea have compatibility issues but the only paper I've been able to find that hybridizes a hardy NA persea to p.americana is from the 50s! And iirc its only persea bubonia (red bay) and not persea palustris (swamp bay) and p.palustris might be slightly closer



 Source: MOLECULAR PHYLOGENETIC ANALYSIS OF THE PERSEA GROUP
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Even in that 50s article there were some hybrids between persea species even tho the borbonia crosses failed. Has there been other documented experiments on interspecies crosses in this genus? Especially with p.palustris

Edit: The 50s persea hybridization paper I'm referencing: https://www.avocadosource.com/Journals/ASHS/ASHS_1954_63_PG_239-242.pdf

Graft to a big tree today.
Worry about rootstock tomorrow.

Idk if I have that lol
I have a small meyer lemon tree in a 3 gallon i think like something youd see from home depot

I'm thinking of creating an aerocloner.

I do not have the rootstock to graft all the varieties I want and frankly I'm nervous of grafting as I've never done it.

Nice, I had a southern Home for years but it perished last year's winter.
If you're offering that ID take some too.

Whatts the order minimum?

Does anyone know of any hardy cacti besides opuntia that survive outside out east z8 or lower?
I had a tiny hedgehog that perished last year and it made me curious if anything could take a cold, rainy winter. Most hardy cacti are only tested in arid parts out west not with both those conditions.

Doesn't have to be a species like any selections or peculiar specimens outdoors at a botanical park or such.

I think it means the seeds of the cultivar haven't been observed in-depth.
These seem to be intended to be propagated asexually.

Supersour 1 say the same thing and I would find it odd for ALL of these to be seedless given the parents.

Quote from: manfromyard on May 14, 2023, 07:53:14 PM

I have not been able to find another uga changsha so I am trying to rescue this until I can get enough wood to graft a backup..should i try pruning more now or wait till the new growth has matured?

Is this the UGA changsha?
https://www.georgiagrowncitrus.com/product-page/uga-sweet-frost-tangerine-tree

"This tangerine, developed by Dr. Wayne Hanna, University of Georgia, is a Changsha tangerine made seedless.Its Brix content ranges from 11 to 12."

Never heard of a Bumper Satsuma, is that a local name given to a Satsuma variety, I don't see it on the UCR CCPP database.

https://www.saxonbecnelandsons.com/exclusive-varieties

artic frost satsuma is more famous. Honestly "bumper" through me off too, a quick scroll I thought OP wanted some extra fruit. Learn something new every day lol

Is 'frost owari' and "owari 874' the same as "owari" and if not are they as good as other owari satsumas

if they're the same perhaps Ill go with owari as madison sells a tree with "owari 874" and ponkan

edit: found an article as well as the ccpp listting that say frost owari is just owari ha https://www.al.com/living-press-register/2009/10/satsuma_cultivars_the_best_and.html

zone 8
things I want:
sweet and deep, balanced flavored (some tartness), deep orange flesh, zipper peel

ripens OCT-early DEC and hardy (as satsumas go)

Lee x Nova (top contender but might ripen too late?)
Okitsu wase (original choice)
dobashi beni
Shiranui
owari
xie shan
ponkan

Feel free to make a recommendation or give experiences too

some seeds are fine, flavor and ripening are the concerns here

Waiting on answer for this. There is not a whole lot of info on these about harvest times, flavor, productivity, etc. I'm starting to think a plain old eureka is just as good..

Supposedly some Italian (intedonato and genoa i believe) dont have bitter rinds which makes them appealing for candying and liquour I think. But yes not a lot of actual reviews.

I love iced lemon teas but the bitter fllavor of rinds transfers into the drink pretty fast, wonder if it aa non bitter rind makes a difference

Desert lime has high resistance to hlb and a lot of other things. I want the meyer lemon x desert lime cross. It seems to have the disease resistance of the desert lime for the most part but good tasting lemon like fruit and grows true to seed. It is used as root stock.

Where is this found?