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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Opuntia humifusa
« on: June 05, 2023, 12:41:09 PM »
Huh thats interesting. Atlanta is zone 8b but I see a wide variety of opuntia around town that survived for years in the ground: we have extremely wet winters too.

Perhaps a grex of species - I have some seeds from spineless opuntia (assuming they have glochids) as well as some hardy seeds from NJ (from experimental farm network which has at least 3 hardy opuntia seed selections). Honestly Id prefer regular degular spines over glochids lol.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Opuntia humifusa
« on: June 04, 2023, 10:49:43 PM »
My spineless, glochidless elisiana doesnt shrivel but it and its tiny cutting took -15 frost (frozen soliid 2 nights) and cold wet weather iinsde of a pot. I have heard they aren't as hardy but that should have killed iit riight?
Are yours planted in the ground?

Also this is a desire of mine: large, sweet and glochidless opuntia

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Its been said on this thread or another that persea have compatibility issues but the only paper I've been able to find that hybridizes a hardy NA persea to p.americana is from the 50s! And iirc its only persea bubonia (red bay) and not persea palustris (swamp bay) and p.palustris might be slightly closer



 Source: MOLECULAR PHYLOGENETIC ANALYSIS OF THE PERSEA GROUP
(LAURACEAE) lang li

Even in that 50s article there were some hybrids between persea species even tho the borbonia crosses failed. Has there been other documented experiments on interspecies crosses in this genus? Especially with p.palustris

Edit: The 50s persea hybridization paper I'm referencing: https://www.avocadosource.com/Journals/ASHS/ASHS_1954_63_PG_239-242.pdf

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Graft to a big tree today.
Worry about rootstock tomorrow.

Idk if I have that lol
I have a small meyer lemon tree in a 3 gallon i think like something youd see from home depot

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only a few varieties like lemon  are easy to roott, the rest are a lot of work for little gain. The roots on orange and grapefruit cuttings will never be better than growing out seeds and grafting to them.

yees this is another concern, even if rooting is successful some plants supposedly arent vigorous non their own :(

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Citrus General Discussion / Can budwood from the CCPP be cloned?
« on: May 22, 2023, 10:06:12 AM »
I'm thinking of creating an aerocloner.

I do not have the rootstock to graft all the varieties I want and frankly I'm nervous of grafting as I've never done it.

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What fungicide do you use to treat your seeds kumin?

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Nice, I had a southern Home for years but it perished last year's winter.
If you're offering that ID take some too.

Whatts the order minimum?

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I'm interested in the muscadines but cann you tell which is which if theyre unlabeled?

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Does anyone know of any hardy cacti besides opuntia that survive outside out east z8 or lower?
I had a tiny hedgehog that perished last year and it made me curious if anything could take a cold, rainy winter. Most hardy cacti are only tested in arid parts out west not with both those conditions.

Doesn't have to be a species like any selections or peculiar specimens outdoors at a botanical park or such.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Atlanta Winter Citrus Damage
« on: May 15, 2023, 09:50:16 PM »
Oof,  thankfully they should have some now I could add that listing to my cart when I checked!

They had some sun-dragon in stock and I'm mad that I didn't snag some while it was around 😢 literally had it in my cart and poof it was gone lol

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I think it means the seeds of the cultivar haven't been observed in-depth.
These seem to be intended to be propagated asexually.

Supersour 1 say the same thing and I would find it odd for ALL of these to be seedless given the parents.

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Great, are those available to us civilians though?

If not and assuming there's not proprietary rights on them I wonder if Madison Citrus would be open to offering them as they've done a great job dissemination some rarer scions (why not rootstocks too)

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Atlanta Winter Citrus Damage
« on: May 15, 2023, 01:06:09 AM »
I have not been able to find another uga changsha so I am trying to rescue this until I can get enough wood to graft a backup..should i try pruning more now or wait till the new growth has matured?


Is this the UGA changsha?
https://www.georgiagrowncitrus.com/product-page/uga-sweet-frost-tangerine-tree

"This tangerine, developed by Dr. Wayne Hanna, University of Georgia, is a Changsha tangerine made seedless.Its Brix content ranges from 11 to 12."

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Atlanta Winter Citrus Damage
« on: May 15, 2023, 01:05:11 AM »
I have not been able to find another uga changsha so I am trying to rescue this until I can get enough wood to graft a backup..should i try pruning more now or wait till the new growth has matured?


Is this the UGA changsha?
https://www.georgiagrowncitrus.com/product-page/uga-sweet-frost-tangerine-tree

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Never heard of a Bumper Satsuma, is that a local name given to a Satsuma variety, I don't see it on the UCR CCPP database.

https://www.saxonbecnelandsons.com/exclusive-varieties

artic frost satsuma is more famous. Honestly "bumper" through me off too, a quick scroll I thought OP wanted some extra fruit. Learn something new every day lol

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help me pick a mandarin / satsuma
« on: May 10, 2023, 02:06:08 PM »
If you need the advice of an expert, try this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F12whwpA7k
🤣 Ill send him some samples for sure

Another mandarin I've become interested in is the Page mandarin which is a hybrid between a mineolla and clementine. Deep color and holds well too. So many choices lol I need a better job asap!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help me pick a mandarin / satsuma
« on: May 08, 2023, 03:23:19 AM »
Is 'frost owari' and "owari 874' the same as "owari" and if not are they as good as other owari satsumas

if they're the same perhaps Ill go with owari as madison sells a tree with "owari 874" and ponkan

edit: found an article as well as the ccpp listting that say frost owari is just owari ha https://www.al.com/living-press-register/2009/10/satsuma_cultivars_the_best_and.html

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help me pick a mandarin / satsuma
« on: May 06, 2023, 02:53:19 PM »
If you're willing to protect I bet you could do any of them. Incandescent c9 Christmas lights and create a greenhouse (this year I'm trying plastic panels on the windy side and frost cloth panels on the others)
True but I'd have to make a green house first, im on a working class college student budget :P

Quote
.. Someone in here just told about an anecdote where a person puts a bucket of water with an aquarium heater in it inside the makeshift greenhouse and that worked. I haven't tried that, but it makes sense to me
I've seen people talk about all sorts of things using water to keep plantts that really escape me lol

like using sprinklers against a frost. Is it the humidity? IDK

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Citrus General Discussion / Help me pick a mandarin / satsuma
« on: May 06, 2023, 03:58:01 AM »
zone 8
things I want:
sweet and deep, balanced flavored (some tartness), deep orange flesh, zipper peel

ripens OCT-early DEC and hardy (as satsumas go)

Lee x Nova (top contender but might ripen too late?)
Okitsu wase (original choice)
dobashi beni
Shiranui
owari
xie shan
ponkan

Feel free to make a recommendation or give experiences too

some seeds are fine, flavor and ripening are the concerns here

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Such a shame this probably wouldn't be possible stateside. Hope you kept some seeds if it was allowed

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Best tasting italian lemon ?
« on: April 29, 2023, 08:22:34 PM »
Waiting on answer for this. There is not a whole lot of info on these about harvest times, flavor, productivity, etc. I'm starting to think a plain old eureka is just as good..

Supposedly some Italian (intedonato and genoa i believe) dont have bitter rinds which makes them appealing for candying and liquour I think. But yes not a lot of actual reviews.

I love iced lemon teas but the bitter fllavor of rinds transfers into the drink pretty fast, wonder if it aa non bitter rind makes a difference


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Citrus General Discussion / Best tasting italian lemon ?
« on: April 27, 2023, 07:29:10 AM »
I don't think I've ever tried any Italian lemons straight but I find what I've heard about them from gushy cooking recipes and magazines very appealing.

I'm thinking of buying a tree but can't decide which to get:
Santa teresa, genoa, feminello, interdonato etc etc.
Is there a difference with them between whats sold in a given US store or just hype?


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Desert lime has high resistance to hlb and a lot of other things. I want the meyer lemon x desert lime cross. It seems to have the disease resistance of the desert lime for the most part but good tasting lemon like fruit and grows true to seed. It is used as root stock.

Where is this found?

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