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Cold Hardy Citrus / Calamondin x Poncirus
« on: December 09, 2019, 01:44:58 PM »
Hello,

I just want to share with you a picture of a Calamondin X Poncirus hybrid that I created. It is slow growing but look healthy. This plant, and a very tiny sibling, were the only seedlings of that year that grew under hot summer conditions in full sun and in mostly moist loamy soil. Root development was good. No signs of root rot at all. They did not grow well in half shadow and under cool conditions. Yet, they had no root problems under these conditions, either. The last growth, as you see, was not finished before winter. That is the reason for the yellow leaves.
Here the picture of the bigger seedling:


I had a few more Calamondin x Poncirus hybrids. But not all survived. Some germinated readily but grew only to the point when all nutritients from the seed were consumed. No obvious root problems. But finally they died. I suppose a genetic reason.
I am though very encouraged to try this type of cross again. Although Calamondin is highly polyembryonic I received some monoembryonic seeds and hybrid embryos from polyembryonic seeds. My pollination technics was quite superficial. I did not castrate the flowers. I did not even care that the flowers were newly opend and fresh. Bees were present all the time. But still I got a handfull hybrids from perhaps 30 fruits.

I also tried to pollinate Limquat with Poncirus. That also worked well. I had about three hybrids. But they died. The roots were too sensitive. But under different conditions I might have saved them.

Why did a do these crosses? Well, my idea was to produce something like a Citrangequat with higher Poncirus influence. I want to see to what degree Kumquat genes can suppress the bad taste of Poncirus. And I hope that my hybrids inherit from both Poncirus and Kumquat the feature that they bloom before shooting. If they do that would mean one more month for the fruits to ripe, that is one more month for fruit development before winter comes. I read it is hardly possible to cross Kumquat with Poncirus directly. So I tried Kumquat hybrids.



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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Yuzu x Poncirus
« on: December 09, 2019, 01:20:09 PM »
Hello Ilya!

It is difficult to say at the moment. The most obvious Poncirus trait is just that they have some tri- and bifoliate leaves. And I know for sure that the motherplants could not have been polinized by Poncirus hybrids only by the pure Poncirus pollen I placed on the flowers - or by pure Citrus pollen.

If you compare this Yuzu hybrid with its two obviously nucellars siblings you see that it is a little bit less vigorious. The petiole of pure Yuzu is also broader. The petiole and leave texure of the Yuzu hybrid shows some influence of Poncirus I would say.

Regards, Till

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Yuzu x Poncirus
« on: December 09, 2019, 11:10:52 AM »
Hello!

two years ago a was active on Citrus Growers Forum. Now I am back! Great that most people from the old forum are also active here! I had not much news to post inbetween. That was the reason I hersitated to register here. But now I can present a little seedling of cross I made. Yuzu x Poncirus:


A pitty that most seeds were rotten. Only three of them germinated, one was this hybrid. (I have to improve my seed care!)
It is interesting to me that the seedling is mostly monofoliate. But it is definitely a cross of Yuzu with pure Poncirus. There seems to be a rule that the smaller the leaves of the citrus parent the fewer trifoliate leaves you will find. I have also a cross of Kucle (= Kumquat x Clementine) x Poncirus that has narrow mostly monofoliate leaves. This seems to be the genetic influence of the willow leaf parent in Kucle. One purely monofoliate seeling of Kucle has leaves like the willow leaf mandarine. (To remember: Clementine is believed to be a cross with willow leaf mandarine).

I hope my Yuzu x Poncirus cross is somehow tasty and pretty hardy. We will see some day...




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