Author Topic: F2 Citrandarin (X-639) winter hardiness trial  (Read 2057 times)

mkono

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Re: F2 Citrandarin (X-639) winter hardiness trial
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2024, 03:01:46 PM »
By monitoring the maximum radiator temperatures you should be able to determine if the temperatures are within safe limits. 86°F is an optional germination temperature for many Citrus cultivars. Excessively high temps are more rapidly lethal than low temperatures are.
All of my heating is thermostatically controlled. There's also a monitoring system that can be placed as far as 1000' from the central hub which can then send the current temperature to a smartphone.

So far temps don't seem excessively high. I do intend to experiment with a few trays first to see what range I'm seeing.

I'd love to have thermostatically controlled heat mats but given the quantity of trays I'd need to heat I'm not wanting to invest the money in them. I'm hoping that I still see a decent enough germination rate without them.

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Re: F2 Citrandarin (X-639) winter hardiness trial
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2024, 05:18:13 PM »
You do not need many heating mats if you pre germinate seeds in Zip locked plastic bags with barely moist perlite.
After first signs of germination you can transfer them in trays at ambient temperature.
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Re: F2 Citrandarin (X-639) winter hardiness trial
« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2024, 12:57:08 PM »
You do not need many heating mats if you pre germinate seeds in Zip locked plastic bags with barely moist perlite.
After first signs of germination you can transfer them in trays at ambient temperature.

That is a great idea, thank you. I think I will try this out.

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Re: F2 Citrandarin (X-639) winter hardiness trial
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2024, 06:52:41 PM »
I believe I am seeing my first seedlings emerge, a little over a week since planting.

Unless I am mistaken and some weeds made it into my potting mix!
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Re: F2 Citrandarin (X-639) winter hardiness trial
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2024, 04:40:42 PM »
I finished my sowing my last batch of seeds today that I had in plastic bags with perlite under a heat mat (thanks Ilya). 32 trays in total.





Come May, I will harden off the seedlings and plant them outside. Until then I will wait and focus on some other gardening tasks I have on my to-do list  :)

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Re: F2 Citrandarin (X-639) winter hardiness trial
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2024, 05:34:05 PM »
They are looking good. this time of year there is so much to do on gardening tasks:)

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Re: F2 Citrandarin (X-639) winter hardiness trial
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2024, 01:20:49 AM »
I'd love to have thermostatically controlled heat mats but given the quantity of trays I'd need to heat I'm not wanting to invest the money in them. I'm hoping that I still see a decent enough germination rate without them.

I found that heating mats do not seem to work very well, since they result in excessive drying out of soil. (Moisture tends to move from warmer areas away to cooler areas) 
What I found works better is having an enclosure to be able to contain humidity in the air, and then having a small heat source within the enclosure. Even possibly a heat mat under an open container of water. This way the warmth and humidity can migrate to the seedlings, rather than the seedlings being directly warmed and then losing moisture to the surrounding air.

Since you have a clear plastic lid to cover it, heat mats may be able to work. But it is still going to result in much condensation.


Both LED lights or fluorescent will work equally well, and special LED grow lights do not really work any better than normal LED light. Theoretically, LED is more efficient and uses less energy, but in reality none of the energy is really "wasted" since the wasted energy all turns into heat, which is desirable in this situation. If this is being kept in an unheated room, you might even consider insulation panels that are coated on one side with reflective metal foil, to help hold in the heat.
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