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Noble Juicy Crunch Tangerine
Galatians522:
--- Quote from: johnb51 on January 17, 2023, 03:28:17 PM ---
Florida-grown. Our citrus industry needs this shot in the arm. Let's save agriculture from subdivisions!
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Thanks John! I appreciate you posting this. There are about 300 acres of Juicy Crunch and maybe some other tangerine varieties being planted in my county right now. I have really enjoyed the Ori Gold Mandarin that Publix caries as well.
The biggest challenge facing the cutrus industry is not what a lot of people think. We have some excellent growers here that have no trouble growing trees--even with HLB. However, no company can stay in business when their expenses double but their income stays the same. A grove is no different.
Surfmatt:
I'll add my 2 cents to the discussion. Btw not sure I've tasted this variety or not, but it looks good.
The issue isn't just the chemical farming, it's also that they've been growing in these grove/orchard style monoculture row crop methods for far too long with the same genetics being grown. This creates super pest and pathogens able to withstand all of the pesticides, insecticides, germicides, fertilizers etc and these leach into our water tables and we all know what that brings..
The major problem here is that we used the same grafted varieties over and over and expected it to get better.
Maybe there should be some kind of benefit given by the states to farmers whom attempt growing from seed and/or polyculture. This benefits the entire industry. But that probably isn't going to happen. Not in our lifetime at least.
johnb51:
--- Quote from: Surfmatt on January 19, 2023, 05:55:09 AM ---I'll add my 2 cents to the discussion. Btw not sure I've tasted this variety or not, but it looks good.
The issue isn't just the chemical farming, it's also that they've been growing in these grove/orchard style monoculture row crop methods for far too long with the same genetics being grown. This creates super pest and pathogens able to withstand all of the pesticides, insecticides, germicides, fertilizers etc and these leach into our water tables and we all know what that brings..
The major problem here is that we used the same grafted varieties over and over and expected it to get better.
Maybe there should be some kind of benefit given by the states to farmers whom attempt growing from seed and/or polyculture. This benefits the entire industry. But that probably isn't going to happen. Not in our lifetime at least.
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Yeah, I'm familiar with the issues plaguing modern, strictly commodity-producing, non-ecological agriculture. I'm an old man, and they've been talking about loss of topsoil and declining fertility my whole life.
I had included this topic in the regular forum as a general heads-up concerning a fruit that I was impressed with and that everyone might enjoy since I don't grow citrus and never go to that forum. Looks like the "powers that be" saw things otherwise.
Millet:
Surfmatt, your post had many good suggestions, but commercial growers should start growing their new trees from seed is not one of them.
Galatians522:
The bottom line is that these are good tangerines that taste better in my opinion than Cuties or Halos (especially the Ori Gold as I mentioned above). Since the cultural practices are no different in California, they are no more or less healthy than the California fruit. Eating local fruit does help support the local economy and saves a pile of fuel in comparison to shipping fruit all the way accross the continent.
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