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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bacupari ?
« on: February 06, 2025, 08:33:01 AM »
He better hit the books because even if that clipped pic was correct it would still be wrong as the skin is not fuzzy. The fruit which formerly went by this name is now just an elongated G.madruno and it is up to 20m tall btw but madronos are variable. Look at pages 125 and 129 of lorenzi's book. The pic does look a bit like a thin skinned G.macrophylla.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ‘Tikal’ sapodilla cultivar
« on: February 06, 2025, 08:19:33 AM »
When tested in Australia with around 25 other varieties it performed better than most. It was not as productive as elite types like krasuey but has a good taste. it almost made the final cut of the top 3 or 4 recommended as commercial varieties.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Comparison of Red Jackfruits
« on: February 06, 2025, 08:12:07 AM »
There are only a few reds and these new names are not helping with knowing what the fruit are like. NS1 is probably one of the oldest and best known and perhaps the progenitor of many. It is ok but wouldn't keep you awake at night marvelling over its quality.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Mango ID.
« on: February 06, 2025, 08:07:52 AM »
Looks like a pearl to me and like many brightly coloured types the taste is less than the promise.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Snakes and Food Forests
« on: February 06, 2025, 08:04:25 AM »
In Sydney and the surrounds there are a few nasty snakes but densities are low and diversity is comparatively low. By contrast here in Cairns I have had 4 species of pythons in the yard and the big scrubbies ate all my ducks and geese and some have been over 5m. There are around 4 other harmless snakes and a few mildly venomous snakes. While found nearby I have never had a taipan, death adder, eastern brown, small eyed or any other super nasty. I have never heard anyone in snake central which is north queensland even express concern about snakes in the orchard. The chance of getting bitten by a nasty species is remote in Cairns or Sydney.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: black star Surinam cherry flowering
« on: February 01, 2025, 09:46:05 PM »
My grafted black star has black fruit but my black zill seedling has red fruit. They still taste good. I have an orange fleshed brazilian and I am thinking of planting a white.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does anybody else share my opinon?
« on: February 01, 2025, 09:42:50 PM »
They are not on the verge of being commercial in Australia and those two older varieties have been here a long time. Even commercial fruit farmers with big trees have trouble shifting them with rotting fruit beneath trees. Yes they are ok in smoothies but all efforts to make them more popular in recent decades have failed. A fruit that taste like sweet potato with a dash of honey doesn't seem to work for many people.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bacupari ?
« on: February 01, 2025, 09:36:40 PM »
In Australia madruno can mean anything and in fact that seems to be the case in parts of south america also. There are no medronos, mudronos or other corrupted common names tht should be applied. G.brasiliensis, gardnerian and intermedia are all in Australia and easy to identify looking nothing like the fuzzy skin G.madruno. G.acuminata does not exist. That name has landed on top of G.madruno and even the Asia G. elliptica and it should be exponged from use.
G.dulcis, G.xanthochymus and even G.cochinchinensis seem to be used interchangeably by some. Admittedly dulcis is super widespread and variable. Never obtain trees on the basis of name alone, look at the pictures of fruit and hope they weren't randomly snatched off the internet and relate to what you are getting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Sapote (Timonius minahasae)
« on: February 01, 2025, 09:26:18 PM »
It collides regional irrational naming with taxonomic nonsense with common name and squares the confusion. New Guinea has about 80 species in this genus. The word sapote is a recipe for confusion.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Comparison of Red Jackfruits
« on: February 01, 2025, 09:22:06 PM »
All jacks have juicy fruit bubblegum element. Reds are a little more likely to be crisp, low latex and well flavoured than yellows. The finest of all however are just a few reds and a few yellows. There are bad reds and reds are really orange like papaya. I have had the benefit f seeing how many of my amber seedlings have turned out. Some were clearly crossed to J33. Most seedling were paler orange than their mother and equally as good. A proportion were duds and a few turned out to be exceptional, even better than their mother. On the whole most seedlings say over 50% were just like their mum.
I am a fan of the nanka mini these days, good taste small tree and quick to bear.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« on: October 20, 2024, 07:04:31 AM »
Sapodillas get big in my area. All types its seems. Speaking of flashes in the pan. Of the 22 varieties in one trial here only a few made positive impression. Previous trials of Indian types rated them pretty low. In Florida ponderosa, brown sugar must be hard to find these days. If they have grit, are poor bearers or dont have smooth tasty flesh the axe is the cure and most varieties dont make the grade.The C series such as c54 are poor bearers, tropical is not a great fruit if the tree has any. Sawo Manila and makok are alright but often are not heavy producers. Sapodilla variety selection is important as this species generates a lot of frustration. If you get a good tree it will be the pride of the orchard.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Diseased duku langsat
« on: October 20, 2024, 06:42:21 AM »
You might notice many develop a corky flaking bark condition with age. I'm not sure if it's an actual sickness as they still grow fine and fruit ok. I have seen that stunted thing happen with grafts and marcots before. For that matter runt seedlings that just sit there and dont develop can look similar.  Fungicides and nutrients dont help and you know it has something to do with the roots. I suspect root damage allows a pathogen in and the plant never recovers. It may survive and take off but usually doesnt. Whether from insects chewing roots, some kind of rot and even if the fungus goes the tree remains in the twilight zone, we can only guess.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: October 20, 2024, 06:28:10 AM »
Good to see lots of activity since I last dropped by. Reading below I see outrageous prices for trees of musang king and I suspect black thorn. I suspect the seeds brought into Australia will grow pretty true and quite a few people have trees getting close. Only the laplaes or spineless Chantanuris would be more valuable I guess. Monthong still dominates fetches high prices everywhere and gaan yeow still gets raved about. Chanee is the 2nd most cultivated variety and darn good. If black thorn is the best in the reckoning of many I wonder what the progenitor seeds brought from Thailand to Malaysia were from. What variety and is it a well know thai type?
Btw they all seem self fertile to some extent and out pollinating makes a big difference. Chanee and kradom are valued for that it Thailand.

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Meaning circumference not diameter.I think age and biomass are important and minimum size for opening the account varies with variety.

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No difference and they are Annona now. Deliciosa no longer exists.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Salak questions!
« on: September 10, 2024, 05:29:01 AM »
Not to my knowledge and they are nearly all 3 loculed. Pondoh is the same as yogyarta. Bali vars. Boni and gula pasir are at the top of the hitlist for salak enthusiasts

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Patrissi
« on: September 10, 2024, 05:22:06 AM »
My real one came from Richard I think. Eugenia sp. Venezuela for the other maybe.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Salak questions!
« on: September 08, 2024, 12:31:17 AM »
Sumalee is a sala and you need both sexes. It is the best thai cultivar but cant cross with S.salacca. Even balis are indos bts. White seeds are dead but brown seeds of any size are ok. In S.wallichiana with a sala level of development 3 loculed fruit produce mostly female trees  one and 2 loculed fruit mostly males. The number of flat surfaces on the seed will reveal the number of locules the fruit had.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Leaf Deficiency on Langsat.
« on: September 08, 2024, 12:22:58 AM »
Looks like Mg maybe induced by excessive use of an antagonistic macro like Ca. Maybe other nutrients in deficiency or excess I have a few trees.  PH of 5.5 to about 7.5 should be ok but winter mins below 7c can cause distress

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Jackfruit, mulberry, ambarella.

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They had an identity crisis so A. macroprophyllata is their name. I have a few but they prefer a subtropical rather than a tropical climate with under 2000mm per year so I'm not ideal

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Patrissi
« on: September 08, 2024, 12:09:42 AM »
I have both. The real deal is denser with leaves closer together. Patrisi is variable as you would expect with such a big distribution

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this an Emperor lychee?
« on: August 09, 2024, 05:47:25 AM »
Was it a seedling? I'm not sure what the original name of emperor is.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Salak fruits
« on: August 09, 2024, 05:42:05 AM »
Where did the plants come from and what were they identified as? There are many contenders in the 2 main species it could be. Only a few varieties are not sour. Was the flesh crisp like pineapple core? Were there 3 locales? What thickness is the flesh? Sakum and rakum can sometimes stay brown but sala are nearly always reddish.  It could well be a SZZ and isnt a bali type.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: July 22, 2024, 06:44:48 AM »
Musang king and blackthorn are fashionable atm and I remember 10 years ago getting a seed to grow of a long laplae which is the most glamorous of all. This week I'll pick up some fresh long laplae flown in from Thailand. What are the chances of getting another seed of a seedless variety?

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