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Messages - Mike T

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this a tropical fruit?
« on: July 21, 2024, 04:10:02 PM »
Sure looks like longan but several Cupaniopsis sp. can look remarkably similar.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: July 21, 2024, 04:05:13 PM »
If Thailand has around 200 or more named varieties, monthong and chanee would be 70% of what is cultivated and gaan yeow would be the next most popular.  The name means long stem. The next most planted is kradum tong and all 4 of these seem to have many variations and I am guessing due to seedling trees that retain the name. The top 3 are good by any measure, but try a gumpun or luang and figure why these great varieties are not planted extensively.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Sabara vs. Other Jabos
« on: July 21, 2024, 06:57:58 AM »
Have you got the reference for the changes? I don't seem to find anything or an up to date genetic cladogram.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia clausa (Anihuayo)
« on: July 20, 2024, 10:01:59 PM »
It looks like mulchis are up 10m and clausa about the same in the wild. Shawi maybe be bigger. My giant mulchi at around 8 yo is still very small and slow growing, clausa has also been painfully slow as has shawi. Does anyone have these fruiting from seeds they planted?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: July 19, 2024, 08:43:26 PM »
Fair enough Seng and I forget the California climate is a bit harsh.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Sabara vs. Other Jabos
« on: July 19, 2024, 08:38:22 PM »
Heya thanks Jab I didn't hear that and I am surprised. I knew it was messy and genetic affiliations were not well reflected in the taxonomy. I suspect this group is a recent radiation unlike say Garcinia and that genera splitting more than what usual genetic separation may have gone down. I better sus this out. Genetic relatedness is a pretty good indicator of grafting compatibility.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Banana Crunch Jackfruit ?
« on: July 19, 2024, 05:49:21 AM »
Be interesting to trace it back to its source and then find its origin. Even if a seedling maybe it could be matched to a named variety.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: July 19, 2024, 05:47:20 AM »
A lack of relatedness even when apparently successful runs a high risk of delayed incompatibility. Marcots are so easy and pretty expendable. If these can't make it in challenging circumstances I wonder how much better a grafted plant even on a resilient rootstock would be.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Sabara vs. Other Jabos
« on: July 19, 2024, 05:42:01 AM »
Yes sabara is a difficult scion but a great rootstock. They seem to take Plinias also. It would be worth trying the highest value Plinias like cambuca, inflata, shawi and those other big yellow fruited species in NW S. America. It seems home grown jaboticabas are being divided into types very rapidly and sometimes their species even identified. Even the species appear to be divided way too much. I wouldn't be surprised if the species alone could be rationalised so cauliflora and jabuticaba could be merged and the same goes for aureana and phitrantha. Then we could assign a few other species including coronata to these. Check out how many species are unknown in the wild.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitangatuba/Pitomba cross
« on: July 17, 2024, 11:28:23 AM »
I am surprised these 2 species could cross and I wonder if the real father has been confirmed beyond reasonable doubt.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cassabanana--red vs. purple fruit
« on: July 17, 2024, 11:25:54 AM »
There are many other colours also and yellow is quite common. The variation is quality and taste is quite modest. They are not a fruit to set the world on fire and keep you awake at night marvelling over it.

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I have another tree with a single flower after recovering from insect attack. It looks like I have 2 hermaphrodites, a female jumbo, a female standard, a male and a jumbo yet to reveal its sex.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seed prices are silly
« on: July 08, 2024, 09:52:55 AM »
Soren that sounds positive. The older generation of fruit enthusiasts in Australia routinely held on to their prized varieties and species that were worthy of sharing around. It wasn't just the Incas that had lost crops. I would certainly encourage people to be generous and at the same time recognise some people have to sell if its their business or need recompense for their efforts.This being said the price of seeds I have seen at times have been way too high for what they are.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durio macrantha and the Professor
« on: July 08, 2024, 09:41:19 AM »
Hopefully some success in Hawaii will be reported on here before too long. They have dispersed a bit more in northern Queensland since those days. Our initial enthusiasm hasn't been matched by the speed of how long it's taking to try them out in southern Florida.
In the early days of the forum there was excitement in showcasing new fruits and new varieties. I did get some pleasure in telling my American chums, "you call that an abiu" or telling them they can't be serious about their lychees or starapples. Quite a few people brought eye popping fruit to the table like Raul with the Mexican Garcinia.
The good news is there are plenty more new discoveries or at least winners to us that deserve air time that are likely to out there. In the wild in Latin america or indonesia or on a farm in Mexico or Queensland would be good places to look.

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Heya Raul its great to know survivors from the past are doing their thing. My Mexican Garcinia's are doing their thing also. J33's are good alright and I recall lining up ambers and J33 fruit with people and making them tell me which one is better. If they said j33 I would verbal them and tell them to wake up to themselves.Is it possible that the other one is amber?
A friend, Dan grew a j33 from seeds of my tree and the fruit turned out pale orange but great in taste. It obviously was a cross with the amber.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone have red malaysian guava
« on: June 25, 2024, 02:41:58 AM »
Yes I did grow that type before and I thought fruit was too poor once the excitement of the foliage colour had passed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Artocarpus lanceifolius
« on: June 22, 2024, 06:22:02 PM »
While all Artocarpus are monoecious their own pollen may not be available when female flowers are receptive that's true. The do prefer to outcross.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone have red malaysian guava
« on: June 22, 2024, 06:13:30 PM »
Are we talking red fleshed or red foliaged? The red and purple foliaged types usually make great mulch.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yellow sap in mangosteen
« on: June 20, 2024, 06:17:01 AM »
Gamboge and translucent flesh disorders often go together and they are not by a disease/pathogen. Trees often have a few fruit with it. Some much more than others. Two things that may be partially relate seem to be behind it.How trees get watered and in places with a big wet season and dry season that is really dry it is more of a problem and also in poorly drained soils. Calcium is also involved and this can be due to balance with K and even Mg and soil acidity can influence Ca availability.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Strange Syzygium at SFBG
« on: June 19, 2024, 02:05:19 AM »
They are mostly Syzygiums from my local area and there are plenty more.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: June 17, 2024, 05:19:49 AM »
It is true that some seedlings perform like champs once they get going and have a more productive life than most grafted durians. Seedlings can also be duds even from respectable parentage. Tree size, juvenile period and certainty makes most people lean towards grafted trees I guess.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pellet Rifle Advice
« on: June 17, 2024, 05:13:11 AM »
We have to throw rocks at the pests and I wear long sleeves all the time as there is no right to bare arms. Luckily your 2nd amendment is just an amendment like what prohibition was.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: June 16, 2024, 08:36:33 AM »
Maybe the trees have changed as they have aged or I have. My Limberlost has great fruit some years and mediocre other years. P88 is good but gumpun fruit seem to get better each year. I am pretty good at picking a shithouse durian and I am kinda fighting with my red prawn tree these days. Its pretty big and doesn't bring much to the table.

Grafted durian are actually a better option and yes its about the rootstock. Chanee rootstock is good but most named good varieties are not so good as rootstock. The trash masquerading as durian in Rusty's, full of seeds and light on flesh make good vigorous rootstock. Maybe for rootstock a junkyard dog is better than a poodle.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dolomite reviels
« on: June 15, 2024, 11:30:11 PM »
K, Ca and Mg do not get along and in fact are antagonistic if one of these is over applied or excessive.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pellet Rifle Advice
« on: June 15, 2024, 11:25:18 PM »
Since Port Arthur in 1996 fire arms have been highly restricted here, even pellet guns.

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