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Butterscotch sapodilla
« on: October 07, 2022, 05:03:05 PM »
Does anyone know if the zills butterscotch sapodilla is a dwarf tree or does it get big?  thanks

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2022, 05:08:41 PM »
Supposed to be a dwarf.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2022, 06:01:53 PM »
Mine doesn't seem to be a vigorous grower in a pot. This is year two of a plant I purchased in 7 gal. I have upsized once from a seven to a 15 gal for my ego's sake ;D ;D :D

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2022, 06:50:26 PM »
It grows slow so far thats for sure.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2022, 10:03:05 AM »
Ours is slow growing compared to other saps, which are slow growing in general from my experience. In ground over a year now from a 5 or 7 gallon. 5 or 6 feet tall, with little fruitlets.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2022, 08:08:12 PM »
My Butterscotch appears to grow moderately but steadily in my greenhouse. I purchased mine from Florida in early spring as a small 18" 3 gallon and placed it in a larger #5 pot. It is now just under 36" tall.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2022, 10:11:13 PM »
Mine grows slow. Full sun. In ground. I don’t water it much. Certainly droopy habit I’d call it the coconut cream of Sapodilla trees (in canopy shape but not vigor) it’s droopy.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2022, 11:36:43 AM »
Is there any indication of when it's Main and minor crops are in Florida? Spring fall or winter summer



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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2022, 12:05:19 AM »
Anybody taste one and can explain what all the hype is about?

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2022, 07:38:08 AM »
Mine sat for 8 month in ground before flushing. I got a small alano at the same time and it flushed about 4 times before the butterscotch. The butterscotch did put out about a foot of growth this summer and gave it a nice staking for the storm.


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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2022, 10:16:36 AM »
Anybody taste one and can explain what all the hype is about?
That it's a dwarf?
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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2022, 10:01:22 PM »
Anybody taste one and can explain what all the hype is about?
That it's a dwarf?

I think they mean hype about the taste.  I want to know too, and like bovine said, what is the season?  Could this be a cross pollinator for Haysa?

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2022, 10:16:57 PM »
Have heard from different people I trust that the taste is excellent and distinct from other saps available in the US.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2024, 01:24:22 AM »
A few years down the road, is there a consensus on the Butterscotch Sapodilla? Was it just a flash in the pan for home growers?

I searched through a lot of forum threads for help in selecting a couple more Sapodilla varieties, and I don't see anyone talking about a productive Butterscotch tree that they are happy to have planted. Does it need more time or is it a bust at this point?
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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2024, 10:35:25 AM »
Rivas is the best sap I've tried so far. Still waiting on BS, but she's flushing and growing and flowering some, off and on.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2024, 03:21:19 PM »
In early January of this year I moved my Butterscotch Sapodilla tree out of my greenhouse and placed it outside. Based on the very slow growth I believe this is a Dwarf variety, at least in California. You can see for yourself the growth this year from the two photos, one from January and another from October 2024.

If somebody was going to get a small Butterscotch plant and grow it outside in SoCal it will likely take 8-10 years to begin consistent fruiting in my opinion. On the opposite end of the Spectrum my five year old Tikal Sapodilla tree is about 8-9' tall and grows much faster vertically upright.  The growth rate of the Alano Sapodilla appears to be in between and is a medium to medium-fast grower with a more spreading habit. Thus far I have no fruit from any of my sapodilla trees.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2024, 05:13:28 PM »
Alano did not want to grow during the summer heat, but once all the September rain came it took off.



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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2024, 07:04:31 AM »
Sapodillas get big in my area. All types its seems. Speaking of flashes in the pan. Of the 22 varieties in one trial here only a few made positive impression. Previous trials of Indian types rated them pretty low. In Florida ponderosa, brown sugar must be hard to find these days. If they have grit, are poor bearers or dont have smooth tasty flesh the axe is the cure and most varieties dont make the grade.The C series such as c54 are poor bearers, tropical is not a great fruit if the tree has any. Sawo Manila and makok are alright but often are not heavy producers. Sapodilla variety selection is important as this species generates a lot of frustration. If you get a good tree it will be the pride of the orchard.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2024, 09:16:15 AM »
I'm probably going to buy a Butterscotch anyway, even if it takes a while to fruit I have 3 others. I've been planting these in the swampier areas of my yard, sometimes even in partial shade so I can pack another fruit tree into the less usable parts of my space.
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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2024, 11:06:32 AM »
I missed out on a chance to buy this variety, but the ones I saw were already starting to set fruit at around 2 ft tall in 3 gallons, much like silas wood

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2024, 12:14:26 PM »
Still no fruit.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2024, 01:04:07 PM »
Was just checking mine out. Pace of growth appears to have kicked up a notch or 2. Way taller than me now.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2024, 08:59:09 PM »
My in ground Butterscotch (approx 8 feet tall) put out a ton of flowers earlier this year. Hand pollinated with Silas Wood pollen which was blooming at the same time. It now has roughly 20+ fruit. 😃 I got 2 fruit last year without hand pollination. Fruit taste was very smooth and creamy with no grit. Very little to no latex. Sweet, but not as much as some other varieties. Recent flush with rains added another foot of growth.

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Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2024, 09:37:59 PM »
The seedlings from my Butterscotch sapodilla have grown notably faster than those from other cultivars. I wonder if Butterscotch would be a particularly good rootstock.

 

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