Bacupari ?

[Chandramohan]

This fruit is on a plant from seeds I received from Raul, as 'Bacupari'. The fruit is same size/slightly smaller than the fruits on my Garcinia intermedia. Sweetness is same as lemondrop. But the leaves are different/bigger. Is it really a different Garcinia?

[SplorKeLZ]

Did he ever specify what species he thought it was? Bacupari is a name given to multiple different species in the genus, including g. intermedia. The fruit looks like lemon drop to me

[Rob From Sydney]

I reckon it's a lemon drop, I don't really think it could be anything else. I'm pretty sure G. Intermedia (lemon drop) is the only perfectly rounded garcinia. Raul could have confused the lemon drop with the 'superior lemon drop', G. Brasiliensis, also called bakupari.

I just wanted to say that Bacupari refers to so many species. It's a pain in the neck, in my opinion. You could call it the Garcinia equivalent of 'Custard Apple'...

[SplorKeLZ]

I just wanted to say that Bacupari refers to so many species. It's a pain in the neck, in my opinion. You could call it the Garcinia equivalent of 'Custard Apple'...

ha! great way to put it XD

[Chandramohan]

Did he ever specify what species he thought it was? Bacupari is a name given to multiple different species in the genus, including g. intermedia. The fruit looks like lemon drop to me

Raul called G.brasiliensis.

[Rob From Sydney]

Did he ever specify what species he thought it was? Bacupari is a name given to multiple different species in the genus, including g. intermedia. The fruit looks like lemon drop to me

Raul called G.brasiliensis.

You definated have a Garcinia Intermedia.

There is confusion Between Garcinia Intermedia and Garcinia Brasiliensis. They both get called 'Lemon Drop Mangosteen'. After watching a few two many Flying Fox Fruits videos, I've come to an understanding of what's what.
Garcinia Intermedia (Called Madrono here in AUZ) is rounded.


Garcinia Brasiliensis (Also called Bacupari) is pointed.

The one in picture has a pretty long point, some have shorter 'tails'.
Hope I can clear things up!

[Chandramohan]

Thanks everybody. So what I have is G. intermedia !

[0hip]

rob - lemon drop should not be called madrono. thats only because daleys and others sell it as that incorrectly. the more people you can tell to stop calling it that the better

[Rob From Sydney]

rob - lemon drop should not be called madrono. thats only because daleys and others sell it as that incorrectly. the more people you can tell to stop calling it that the better

Thanks. I'll do just that.
I've noticed that it is becoming a common name for G. Intermedia here is Australia. All the nurseries call it Madrono. I wonder how it started?

[0hip]

it was started by being mislabeled and then others copied them. daleys have since removed the name from the website and so have others

[Rob From Sydney]

They still list 'Madrono' in other names.
And they also give a link for further reading that takes you to a trade winds fruit info page about the true Madrono (Garcinia Madrono).
Good old Daleys...

[Chandramohan]

Long time ago I bought seeds from 'Trade Wind Fruits' called as Garcinia madruno. Only when the plants fruited, did I find out that they were G.intermedia!

[Rob From Sydney]

Long time ago I bought seeds from 'Trade Wind Fruits' called as Garcinia madruno. Only when the plants fruited, did I find out that they were G.intermedia!

Damn, that's annoying! Did you have any other Madrunos?

[Mike T]

In Australia madruno can mean anything and in fact that seems to be the case in parts of south america also. There are no medronos, mudronos or other corrupted common names tht should be applied. G.brasiliensis, gardnerian and intermedia are all in Australia and easy to identify looking nothing like the fuzzy skin G.madruno. G.acuminata does not exist. That name has landed on top of G.madruno and even the Asia G. elliptica and it should be exponged from use.
G.dulcis, G.xanthochymus and even G.cochinchinensis seem to be used interchangeably by some. Admittedly dulcis is super widespread and variable. Never obtain trees on the basis of name alone, look at the pictures of fruit and hope they weren't randomly snatched off the internet and relate to what you are getting.

[0hip]

i got some acuminate seeds off bellamy recently. they are still tiny though with only four leaves. the fruit photos from the website looks very different to madruno

https://www.bellamytrees.com/seeds/p/garcinia-acuminata

[Mike T]

He better hit the books because even if that clipped pic was correct it would still be wrong as the skin is not fuzzy. The fruit which formerly went by this name is now just an elongated G.madruno and it is up to 20m tall btw but madronos are variable. Look at pages 125 and 129 of lorenzi's book. The pic does look a bit like a thin skinned G.macrophylla.