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At what temperature does loquat not fruit? I heard if the temperature goes below -3 or -4 it doesnt fruit, is that true?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Heritage raspberry zone 9?
« on: January 24, 2023, 12:03:13 AM »
I have grown Heritage raspberry in Florida (zone 9b). They benefit from shade and mulch when it gets hot. They don't live very long (due to disease more than heat I believe) but I could get them to last 2-3 years. I think you will fare better with them since you have dryer weather. Heritage has excellent classic raspberry flavor. There is one that would probably do very well for you called Dorman Red. It has Australian native raspberry in its parentage. The flavor is a little different.
i will try heritage, our weather is really dry except the summer months. This fall we didnt get a total over 10mm, i dont think we have a lot of diseases around here cause raspberries arent such a common thing for people to plant

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Heritage raspberry zone 9?
« on: January 24, 2023, 12:00:03 AM »
I don't know about the heritage variety. We had raspberries and blackberries in Florida. Raspberry does worse than blackberry and some varieties are more heat tolerant than others but generally speaking they survive heat and will even produce berries but they grow better in cooler climates. I doubt that it would die.
alright thank you, i will give it a try, i was wondering cuz i have heard somewhere it eas just heat tolerant up to 8b

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Loquat cold tolerance
« on: January 23, 2023, 11:58:44 PM »
There is a huge atleast 13 year old loquat tree near my house outside, it has no protection, doesnt get watered by anybody only rain, no fertilizer.

So i was wondering at what temperature it doesnt fruit, cuz all those years it has been fruiting except maybe 1 or 2 very cold years and i wanted to know what temperature makes it not fruit so i can have a comparison for other fruit trees i want to plant and know the lowest my area goes.

I live in north greece, north blocked by a mountain, south blocked by a mountain, 9a.

Thanks in advance!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Heritage raspberry zone 9?
« on: January 22, 2023, 10:27:07 AM »
Hey i live in a zone 9a and i want to grow raspeberries, i can find to order only the heritage variety but i am not sure it will hold against the hot weather, i am in north greece and the winters are cold some years like down to -6 or -7 at night only for some days but our summers go up to 40c and i am worried it wont survive the summer, how heat tolerant is it

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is my climate 9a? Info below
« on: January 04, 2023, 08:11:37 AM »
I am from north greece, i live between 2 mountains. 1 mountain blocks the warm sea air and the other the cold north air, i have data froma a place 10km away from me (Which takes the north air because it isnt blocked from the mountain)

January is the coldest month averaging 9c highs and 2c lows
The average day in december which is our least sun month has 9 hours of sunlight and the sky is clear in average 12 hours every day of december.
February is the month with the most humidity and has 73%
August is our hottest month and has average highs 33c and average lows of 21c
This december was really hot we had days of 20c highs and the lowest it got was -1 to -2 for 10 hours in total in the whole december

I get my info from this sitehttps://wanderlog.com/weather/56986/8/eleutheroupoli-weather-in-august , anybody can check it.

Any help appreciated, i want to know if my zone is 9a, according to maps it is but like temperature isnt the only thing that plays a role as far as i know.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa self fertile?
« on: December 31, 2022, 02:57:18 PM »
yea you’ll need 2 for good fruit production even if they’re marketed as the “self fertile” variety. Don’t get me wrong thr self fertile ones will make a fruit sparingly, but 2 is just so much more worth it.

You can graft 2 types onto one stock, online says grafting is difficult but not impossible. The colder it is outside the better they taste
deffo but i cant find another variety!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa self fertile?
« on: December 31, 2022, 02:56:43 PM »
I believe 2 cultivars/varieties or seedlings are needed for cross pollination
i cant find 2 different ones so i will get one and see

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa self fertile?
« on: December 31, 2022, 02:56:09 PM »
YOU ONLY NEED ONE TREE. I have one nazemetz and it Produces a ton of fruit, more than we can eat, and it’s a small tree.
i dont have any other choice, i will get one and see. I cant find a different variety and i dont have space

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: fortunella margarita - kumquat cold tolerance
« on: December 30, 2022, 08:17:02 AM »
Alright thanks, i am not even sure we go down to -6, this is what csr thermometer says which isnt that accurate i think, i live in a place where the north is blocked by a big mountain, a place near us where north isnt blocked got -6,6c as its coldest temp last year so i am wondering if we could be colder than them or the same

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Cold Hardy Citrus / fortunella margarita - kumquat cold tolerance
« on: December 30, 2022, 04:33:34 AM »
does anybody know if fortunella margarita - kumquat can resist cold down to -6 for short times? I am in north greece and it sometimes fall down to -6 in january for short times in the morning

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Feijoa self fertile?
« on: December 30, 2022, 03:54:31 AM »
Hello, i am planning on buying a feijoa tree in march and i dont have space for another one so i wanna know if there is a way to know if the feijoa is self fertile or not from a picture of the tree?
i am buying it from here https://horomidis.gr/product/acca-sellowiana-fezoia-i-fegoia/ and it doesnt say what variety it is

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this is the best USDA-hardiness map I have found of europe that includes Greece:

yes i have seen map, most maps except this one say 9a, this says borderline 8b-9a  but i asked cuz i was thinking there might be some mistake

I am on the border of 10a and 9b. In my case, as much as I wish it were 10a it is definitely not. Most accurately you are probably in Zone 9a. Lean towards the colder zone for your first plantings and experiment from there. As climate change progresses, you will probably need to worry less and less. I have seen notable changes in just 10 years.

Zone 9: The minimum average temperature range is 20°F to 30°F.
Zone 9a: The minimum average temperature range is 20°F to 25° F.
Zone 9b: The minimum average temperature range is 25°F to 30°F.
our minimum average temp is 32f in january, i know things like prickly pear, persimmon, loquat and of course figs, pomegranate etc i will start with feijoa, kiwi, blueberrys then progress into maybe normal guavas

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hardy avocado, banana and mango
« on: December 03, 2022, 02:43:07 PM »
I think that you have a chance with short cycle bananas such as Viente Cohol. Your climate sounds very similar to North Florida/ South Georgia/ South Alabama where there has recently been a lot of research done recently on production of short cycle bananas. Here is a good but lengthy article from Auburn University about one such trial at Fair Hope Alabama. There is a lot of great information in the article including an average minimum temperature graph for you to compare with your location.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://etd.auburn.edu/bitstream/handle/10415/5082/Edgar%2520Vinson,%2520Spring%25202016.pdf%3Fsequence%3D2%26isAllowed%3Dy&ved=2ahUKEwitv_aWlt77AhXuVTABHRgIBH8QFnoECCYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3oaLcEsxgu5qmrkuu0OdaV
thanks, i will go to read the article!!

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this is the best USDA-hardiness map I have found of europe that includes Greece:

yes i have seen map, most maps except this one say 9a, this says borderline 8b-9a  but i asked cuz i was thinking there might be some mistake

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is my hardiness zone (temp shown below)
« on: December 03, 2022, 11:16:16 AM »
My area is in north greece, the coldest it gets is -6c/20f, the mean min temperature is like around 30f, if i understand it doesnt this means its supposed to be borderline 10a? Even though most subtropics cant survive even -6c for some nights.
Data from 2022
Coldest temp of jan -6,5
Coldest temp of feb -1,4
Coldest temp of dec 8,7

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Strawberry tree,Arbutus unedo
Pineapple Guava,Feijoa sellowiana
paw paw,Asimina triloba
Guabiju,Myrcianthes pungens(maybe)
Pecan trees?
Subtropicals in pots,greenhouse
Some tropicals inside the house
i am thinking of paw paw but it isnt self fertile and i dont have much space, so i think i will go for just the 2 guavas

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hardy avocado, banana and mango
« on: December 03, 2022, 08:36:13 AM »
In my subtropical greenhouse avocado is ripe next year, so I think there is no chance to get fruits from tree, in area where is - 6C during winter, no matter how hardy is the tree itself.
i am asking cuz i saw a huge tree with a lot of avocados in a village in south france, we have the same mean min temperatures in january etc, around 34f, but it gets lower some days

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hardy avocado, banana and mango
« on: December 03, 2022, 01:23:07 AM »
An online source from the Canary Islands claims that the cultivar "Gomera," specifically "Gomera-1" is the most cold hardy rootstock/mango variety available in Europe, growing in coastal Mediterranean areas. Apparently the mature trees can survive short freezes up to -4°C, and its even been indicated to fruit in Southern France (although I assume it has a million protections going for it).

If not that, the Mallika dwarf mango is one available in the US that is suggested for attempting to plant in zone 9 or colder regions. No clue on availability for that cultivar in europe. Good luck.
alright thank you i will search for those two

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Szechuan pepper will grow there.
yeah many peppers and vegetables grow here but i dont want them

Just to clarify, zanthoxylym (the genus for szechuan pepper; which species is used is contentious and subject to political considerations) is a shrub/tree that is a fairly close citrus cousin.

It's completely different from both black pepper (piper nigrum) and chili peppers (capsicum).

Certainly deserves more press as it seems to be getting in continental Europe for its excellent pairing qualities, but I'm not sure it qualifies as a fruit.

-6C is what we have here in the part of Alabama where I'm planting stuff at the moment. I'm confident the Passiflora Edulis will come back from the roots when spring rolls around, but it and all of my mandarins and Meyer lemon, and limequat have all defoliated already during the first few frosts. Feijoa is looking great as is loquat. Some newer selections of strawberry guava and recent imports of Feijoa look like great choices and will be getting planted if I come across them.

One of my most exciting things to plant will be pears though, as I'm finding there are excellent selections which exist in nurseries, Asian and Euro types.

One thing I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned more frequently is Butia species.

I have a Butia capitata and a Butia eriospatha in the ground, and high hopes for both. Love the fruit from the selections I've found in California.
you think edulis wont produce fruits? I have planted one in a pot right now i still havent put it outside yet.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Meyer lemon
« on: December 02, 2022, 02:38:22 PM »
Can meyer lemon survive nights of -5 to -7c if it is planted infront of a south facing wall and a huge black container

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hardy avocado, banana and mango
« on: December 02, 2022, 01:53:07 PM »
No cold hard mangoes or edible bananas. You'll need a greenhouse or a way of protection in the long run.
alright thank you!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hardy avocado, banana and mango
« on: December 02, 2022, 01:52:54 PM »
Blue java banana, some say resistant to -6°C
I bought some on ebay in the spring and got scammed off.
I received cucumber seeds instead.
But still I couldn't check anything myself about its hardiness
yes i checked it, it says up to 7c could be right tbh hut not sure

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cold hardy avocado, banana and mango
« on: December 02, 2022, 01:30:12 PM »
I am looking to plant some things and from what i found i can only plant avocados from those 3, the mexicola avocado which is resistant up to 18f. I wanted to ask if there is any cold tolerant edible banana or mango that survives down to -7c.

Some cold hardy mango variations i know are gomera 1-2-3 and a cold banana is musa basjoo although it's not edible🤷🏾

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I am mainly looking for lemon or lime variations but anything is appreciated. I am looking into meyer lemon which i think i can withstand if i push the temperature up 2c through sun facing wall and black container with water

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