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China White is sweeter.

But the brix reading a few years ago showed they were close.

China White: brix = 17, 16.5, 17.5

Vista White: brix = 13, 16, 17

The fruits of Vista White is almost 2x the size of China White. My Vista White is very productive so it has as much fruits in the cluster as the China White.

 

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I will say that my Campo Ramon is ever so slightly hardier than my Sabara, but it is not revolutionary by any means. It still gets beat down in the winter. I consider it a zone push to have jabos outdoor all year in 9b. 8b and 8a, ok, you're really on the edge there but I salute you, 7b on the other hand is a death sentence. It may not be year 1, maybe not year 2, but eventually, it'll get got.

I've killed so many trees being optimistic and thinking I could beat the odds, but it was wasteful both financially and in killing a living thing. I think back to those days sadly, and how foolish I was.

As others point out, 1 visit to 17f for a few hours is one thing, but days on end, it'll die. Not to mention, a few warm weeks teasing some new growth out then a cold snap, that really does it to them.

Darn, I purchased this one based on the description that it could handle frost. Thanks for bringing some sanity to the discussion, K-Rimes.

Sorry to change the subject, anyone knows if it's possible to have Yangmei (Myrica rubra) in the ground at 7b? I hear it's quite hardy.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zill 40-26 Fruit
« Last post by DavidBYE on Today at 09:00:41 PM »
I think The Orlando Gardener did a YouTube video on this variety. You may want to look it up.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lujan Jaboticaba - 7b in Ground Test
« Last post by K-Rimes on Today at 08:42:41 PM »
I will say that my Campo Ramon is ever so slightly hardier than my Sabara, but it is not revolutionary by any means. It still gets beat down in the winter. I consider it a zone push to have jabos outdoor all year in 9b. 8b and 8a, ok, you're really on the edge there but I salute you, 7b on the other hand is a death sentence. It may not be year 1, maybe not year 2, but eventually, it'll get got.

I've killed so many trees being optimistic and thinking I could beat the odds, but it was wasteful both financially and in killing a living thing. I think back to those days sadly, and how foolish I was.

As others point out, 1 visit to 17f for a few hours is one thing, but days on end, it'll die. Not to mention, a few warm weeks teasing some new growth out then a cold snap, that really does it to them.
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I have the blue one here.



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Im in zone 8b/9a and I lost a 12 year old Sabara in 17f freeze. 6 inch diameter trunk, 9ft tall.  It was big and protected. Had some more frost hardy jabos I was able to protect better and move the pots but they also were bitten a bit.  Folks are right, one hard snap at these lows and jabos are donezo.

Not exactly what I wanted to hear. Would it be possible if I dig it up at the first sign of trouble?

I don't get this. Just leave it in a pot and bring it in.

Then it will be no different from my other plants. I'm trying to get this supposedly hardier variety to the next level of being in the ground.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lujan Jaboticaba - 7b in Ground Test
« Last post by K-Rimes on Today at 08:20:08 PM »
Im in zone 8b/9a and I lost a 12 year old Sabara in 17f freeze. 6 inch diameter trunk, 9ft tall.  It was big and protected. Had some more frost hardy jabos I was able to protect better and move the pots but they also were bitten a bit.  Folks are right, one hard snap at these lows and jabos are donezo.

Not exactly what I wanted to hear. Would it be possible if I dig it up at the first sign of trouble?

I don't get this. Just leave it in a pot and bring it in.
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Im in zone 8b/9a and I lost a 12 year old Sabara in 17f freeze. 6 inch diameter trunk, 9ft tall.  It was big and protected. Had some more frost hardy jabos I was able to protect better and move the pots but they also were bitten a bit.  Folks are right, one hard snap at these lows and jabos are donezo.

Not exactly what I wanted to hear. Would it be possible if I dig it up at the first sign of trouble?
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I can’t get your website to load on mobile. Not sure if it’s just me or not.

Thanks for reporting.

Now I am testing it and it works just fine. Could you enter now?

Anyway, if it does not work for you, you could just tell me what species and quantities would you want from this list and I will work on that:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ba0iLzeia6R2Wry1IZd8RABU25il08_JTFhH158nTmA/edit#gid=0
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