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Blenheim is listed at 400 chill hours, and is still my favorite. On the negative side, it is not the most disease resistant, and alternate bears. Flavor Delight and Cotton Candy apriums are pretty good, and are very early, which is fun.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who grows velvet tamarind?
« on: February 02, 2024, 10:25:00 PM »

I have some seedlings growing in a passive greenhouse. I agree, that the fruit is really fun and tasty. I doubt they'll survive outdoors in my climate (CA 9b), but if someone has heard otherwise, I'm eager to believe! Haha... These plants are from seeds from a fruit tasting Bush2Beach hosted.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: January 20, 2024, 02:36:48 PM »
Reedo, nice looking Walton. How was the taste of your fruits? I haven't tasted the Walton yet.

They still havenít ripened. Iíll post a review when I taste them. The tree has been setting fruiting nonstop for months. Looks like I a long harvest season this year.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cocktail Pummelo tree (Mandalo)
« on: January 18, 2024, 12:03:09 PM »
Santa Cruz, CA zone 9b. Probably going to wait until March-ish to start harvesting.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: WTB: Allspice tangelo fruit.
« on: December 26, 2023, 02:38:42 PM »
SooooÖ tell me about why this giant tree in my yard has you all excited

Due to the citrus quarantine, and the fact that the CCPP doesn't offer budwood, it's impossible to source legally in California. The fruit I've tasted at CRFG events was excellent, and definitely worth introducing at the CCPP, but the process is expensive. It's currently not on their "Upcoming" varieties list.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to buy cherimoyas in Santa Cruz, CA ?
« on: December 26, 2023, 02:30:19 PM »
In addition to the farmers market fruit that Bush2Beach referenced, the closest store I've found them at is Steve's Philipino Market in Marina. I'd call ahead. Their produce quality varies dramatically. 3056 Del Monte Rd Marina, CA 93933

You can find them at Casadores in Watsonville sometimes, but the price is usually really high, and the fruit quality is meh.

I've ordered fruit from Rincon Tropics, and the quality was great.

I'm planning a trip to ecuador next month. Plane tickets are high right now I payed 850$. 4x4 car rental at least 800 plus gas. Hotels are cheap around 20-30$ per night. Food maybe 30$ a day. I will stay for a month and likely dip into peru and colombia. I want to see the yasuni national forest. It's considered the most biodiverse place on the planet. There's a lot to see.

Sounds epic! We'll look forward to hearing about your journey!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: November 28, 2023, 05:35:58 PM »


Here are some screenshots of this short and sweet info download that was recently posted on TFF.
I sent the link to everyone I know interested in Casimiroa and have yet to discuss with anyone. I think itís fascinating and am curious on what other Casimiroa enthusiasts think about this.

There is some great info in that study. Probably most useful is a list of "type 1" cultivars that do not produce pollen. Here is another study that outlines specific cultivars.

Reedo, Michelle is not dwarfing. I was told the large white sapote tree at the OC Fairgrounds which is about 15-20ft tall is a Michelle. It seems to be a normal size tree. I'll look for a photo I took and post it here for you. Fruit tastes good, not excellent. So maybe just average tasting to me, nothing stands out in the flavor.


I will trade you 3 cuttings of my seedling yellow sapote (C. Tetrameria) for your Walton cuttings. My Walton grafted branch is very small so I need to add more on my multi-grafted tree.

The taste of my yellow sapote is good, better than average tasting.

Sounds good. I have plenty of Walton scions to share. My tree is huge. It's loaded up with fruit for the first time, so I should have some photos and taste reports to contribute in Spring. Also, if you're on FB, Harvey has a white sapote page where he has shared photos and reviews for a number of varieties. It's the only place I've been able to find photos of certain varieties. You might check it out and see if there are photos of varieties you haven't fruit yet.

Nice to see your opinion on yellow sapote (Casimiroa tetrameria) # 7 is in agreement with an old CRFG taste test.  CRFG #6 is out there, but most prefer CRFG#7.  I've posted this before, doing it again: using C. tetrameria as a rootstock for C. edulis severely dwarfs the white sapote down to 4 ft. Using C. edulis as a R/S for C. tetrameria makes a much smaller tree, about 8 ft. Both have remained  compatible for over 20 years and produce normal sized fruit.  It would be interesting to see what an interstock of various lengths would do.

If anyone has CRFG #7 scions, I'd love to experiment with some as intermediate grafts. I have about 50 C. edulis seedlings I was planning on grafting up for local folks in Santa Cruz. No one wants a 30' tree in their backyard. That could be really useful.

On a side note, I noticed Michele has a slightly fuzzy underside of its leaves. Does this indicate it's likely a E. edulis. x C. tetrameria hybrid? I've noticed it is growing painfully slow on an C. edulis seedling. It is about 12" tall white my Walton of the same age has been topped three times and is 15' tall. Perhaps Michele is another candidate for intermediate dwarfing?

Here are some images of Malibu #3. Another excellent selection. Very sweet without bitterness. Good vanilla-caramel flavor without any funkiness.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote - Which one should I get?
« on: October 28, 2023, 06:47:58 PM »
Has anyone tasted or grown Wilson white sapote? I believe this was a cultivar that circulated decades ago. A friend asked me to preserve it due to its contemporary rarity, but I canít find any info on it. Itís supposedly a large fruit similar to McDill. If the fruit quality isnít great, Iím not sure itís worth saving, so any info would be a great help. Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia neonitida / selloi growing tips
« on: October 10, 2023, 11:10:53 PM »
They're slow to get going, but then accelerate. Mine fruit nicely under 50% shade cloth in a greenhouse. I have one full sun seedling outdoors, it looks great, but doesn't grow as well as the ones in part shade.

My opinion is that they are not that frost sensitive. Yes, the leaves will go purple, and defoliate, but even with my seedling in 4" of snow outdoors overnight, I didn't lose a single inch of branch. It was 30f for almost the whole night.

Wow, that's interesting. Thanks for the insight. I had one in full sun get burned pretty badly, and it basically completely defoliated, but has basically bounced back without any branch dieback. Sounds like they might be pretty tough.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia neonitida / selloi growing tips
« on: October 09, 2023, 02:05:58 PM »
I kept 2 25 gallon Pitangatoob's side by side on the westside, mid day sun protection and they both fruited very well.
I put them in full sun side by side near Downtown and they made no fruit.
I conclude they will grow & fruit better with dappled light or some shade .

I broke up the pair but visited one of the tree's yesterday  8)

Thanks! I planted 8 seedlings I grew out from seed from Steven Flitís plant. Theyíre all in partial shade and have been doing fine. I think Iím just not accustomed to the slow growing of Eugenias.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wampee vs Pink Wampee Taste?
« on: October 08, 2023, 04:59:14 PM »
What is the cold tolerance of punk wampee? Similar to wampee?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Eugenia neonitida / selloi growing tips
« on: October 08, 2023, 12:26:37 PM »
What conditions have you found to be ideal for growing pitangatubas? I'm in CA zone 9b, with a climate that is more arid than some of our Floridian counterparts. I've noticed we get a lot of sunburned leaves if planted in full sun out here, and growth can be quite slow.

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Texas persimmon seeds
« on: October 06, 2023, 01:43:46 PM »
Here is a great article on germinating D. texana seeds. The most important takeaway is keeping soil temps between 70-80ļf. Anything cooler and germination rate drops off sharply.

One thing not mentioned there (because they started with dried seeds in all their seed groups), but I found nearly zero germination with seeds placed directly from fresh fruit into moist soil, even heated. I gave up on the community pot and left it out all summer (dry season) where it got totally dried out. Then, when we started getting fall rains a few weeks ago there were new sprouts, and after moving it on a heating pad lots of new ones came up.

So, unlike some other persimmons, I think you should dry the seeds before germination, if you have seeds straight from fruit. If you bought seeds that are already dried, they are good to go.

Thanks for the notes! That's good insight.

I live where this species is endemic. If you put a note on your calendar for August and send me a message I can collect fruits or seeds for you. There is a very large specimen tree just down the street from me. I collected fruit last summer and they were delicious.

Any chance you have some leftover seed? I'd be interesteed.

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Texas persimmon seeds
« on: October 05, 2023, 11:58:46 AM »
Here is a great article on germinating D. texana seeds. The most important takeaway is keeping soil temps between 70-80ļf. Anything cooler and germination rate drops off sharply.

I do have some available. I do plan to plant a bunch(at least 50-100) for my land and nursery stock. Probably have around an extra 100 or so available. Stratification started on them too. Pm me if interested.

Thank you! PM sent.

Hi folks, I'm hoping to track down some Diospyros texana seeds. Let me know if you have some, and how many. I'm sure I can find other folks in CRFG to go in on a bigger lot if you have an abundance. If you're harvesting them wild, choice selections would be nice if possible. Thanks!


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: any kadsura coccinea successfully planted ?
« on: September 29, 2023, 03:40:00 PM »

My friend's young plant is in mostly shade and seems to flower well. His plant is still quite young.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona deceptrix for sale
« on: September 29, 2023, 03:16:42 PM »
Dang, bummed I missed the A. deceptrix. If you end up clearing out anymore, let me know!

Are we talking about the one Adam is offering?
I saw the mother plant at the Fruit and Spice park, and wow it is gigantic.

These were from Nattyfrootzís plant (Wildlands Plants). I donít know where he originally got his plant.

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