Not enough Durian Discussion

[Finca La Isla]

Interesting Arvind.  What is your distribution like?
I think that ideal here is 2500mm with two short dry seasons in March and September.  And we get something like that sometimes.  The ground doesn’t completely dry out but dry enough to induce flowering for two harvests a year!
When it is prolonged dry with lots of sun the temperature goes up to about 33-34C.  A friend to the north in Guatemala got overly dry weather this year with temps to 40.  They lost the durian fruit set and some established trees even died.

We are just starting to get some early durian drop this past week, so pretty exciting.  This, right now, is from some very early flowering and we’re expecting our peak harvest of durian and mangosteen in September.
Peter

[Mike T]

If Thailand has around 200 or more named varieties, monthong and chanee would be 70% of what is cultivated and gaan yeow would be the next most popular.  The name means long stem. The next most planted is kradum tong and all 4 of these seem to have many variations and I am guessing due to seedling trees that retain the name. The top 3 are good by any measure, but try a gumpun or luang and figure why these great varieties are not planted extensively.

[Finca La Isla]

I think that if it was up to people like us then we would be always looking for new varieties to plant.  I think that it is the buyers that don’t want the complication of lots of varieties so the producers plant what’s known and easiest to sell.
On a small scale it makes sense to have new varieties to share with clients who appreciate diversity so that’s our focus.  But I don’t know how many varieties of durian a packing house wants to buy.  Maybe only one…
Peter

[Mike T]

Musang king and blackthorn are fashionable atm and I remember 10 years ago getting a seed to grow of a long laplae which is the most glamorous of all. This week I'll pick up some fresh long laplae flown in from Thailand. What are the chances of getting another seed of a seedless variety?

[Acacia]

Mike they are flying laplae durian into Cairns? I thought it would just be monthong. Laplae should have some hardiness qualities we want in durian being that is grown pretty far north?

[BigIslandGrower]

Musang king and blackthorn are fashionable atm and I remember 10 years ago getting a seed to grow of a long laplae which is the most glamorous of all. This week I'll pick up some fresh long laplae flown in from Thailand. What are the chances of getting another seed of a seedless variety?

What's the price on that durian?   Here's a write up from Lindsay that mentions this variety.  https://www.yearofthedurian.com/2021/07/lablae-durian-market-hunt-for-famous-varieties.html

[happyhana]

Fun to try different brands. The arroy-d one used to be very good but then it became hit or miss, they used to be $7-8 per packet in chinatown, now probably $20

Monthong close, the owner already has buyers lined at $10/lb 

Really great looking fruit!

What highs are you getting at leeward 1200’?

Does Monthong ripen properly and evenly at that elevation?

This gives me hope for my windward 800’ trees.

[BigIslandGrower]

Fun to try different brands. The arroy-d one used to be very good but then it became hit or miss, they used to be $7-8 per packet in chinatown, now probably $20

Monthong close, the owner already has buyers lined at $10/lb 

Really great looking fruit!

What highs are you getting at leeward 1200’?

Does Monthong ripen properly and evenly at that elevation?

This gives me hope for my windward 800’ trees.

You should definitely get something at 800'.   I'm at 700.

[Acacia]

What are the temperatures differences in hawaii at 800, 1000, 1200 feet?

[cassowary]

Musang king and blackthorn are fashionable atm and I remember 10 years ago getting a seed to grow of a long laplae which is the most glamorous of all. This week I'll pick up some fresh long laplae flown in from Thailand. What are the chances of getting another seed of a seedless variety?

Hey Mike,
Where do you order the Fresh Thai Durian? and how much is it?
If it's not frozen then is it irradiated? Or do they just fly em in and hope it does not bring any new bugs???

[fruit nerd]

Musang king and blackthorn are fashionable atm and I remember 10 years ago getting a seed to grow of a long laplae which is the most glamorous of all. This week I'll pick up some fresh long laplae flown in from Thailand. What are the chances of getting another seed of a seedless variety?

Hey Mike,
Where do you order the Fresh Thai Durian? and how much is it?
If it's not frozen then is it irradiated? Or do they just fly em in and hope it does not bring any new bugs???

There's fresh Thai monthong on Facebook market place. Fresh musang king and blackthorn from Malaysia is not irradiated I believe.

[cassowary]

Is it whole fruit or only the arils?

[fruit nerd]

Is it whole fruit or only the arils?

Just the arils. I don't think they can bring the whole fresh unfrozen fruits in and it'd probably be very expensive if they could.

[0hip]

thorny fruit co in sydney has starting bringing in fresh durians from Malaysia recently. they are quite expansive though and have to pick up locally