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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best commercial papayas out there?
« on: August 25, 2022, 11:27:32 AM »
This one has been the best for me, but the Red Maradol has also been good. If you are growing commercial be absolutely sure to plant the professional level hybrid seeds. I believe they are specially grown so that the seeds are "Feminized". The advantage of that comes because when you plant them you never get useless male plants, plus some hybrid vigor and known fruit characteristics of size, flavor, and flesh color. As I understand it, the growers of these seeds force a female plant to make pollen which fertilizes a female flower and results in seeds produces no males. By doing this, you can reliably produce seedlings which will all make fruit when transplanted. Commercially you need to be sure there is no chance of standing water around the papaya, full sun and high fertility. Try to avoid leaning trees they bear heavy loads and can easily be lodged over or break off in wind. Pick fruit at first color stripe for shipping.

This shows a fine example of what can be achieved:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ooVX7icbY

The main problem of growing fruits on a commercial scale in most African countries is getting quality propagation material. I have been collecting since 2003, and most need to be carried into Uganda by hand. So hybrid seeds will - at least in the beginning - be a one-time off, after which we need to propagate, select and try to stabilize a lineage, which we can use. Results will obviously not be optimal, but compared to the current situation - a big step up.
Unless you learn to feminize the seeds you will waste half of the acreage growing male trees. Wasting half of the planting can't be commercialized. That is why no commercial farmer would plant open pollinated papaya seeds.

I am in an African setting remember, not in Hawaii or tropical Australia. We have to work with what's possible here. Nobody is interested in using open-pollinated seeds for the next generation, but that can be controlled too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best commercial papayas out there?
« on: August 25, 2022, 07:55:40 AM »
This one has been the best for me, but the Red Maradol has also been good. If you are growing commercial be absolutely sure to plant the professional level hybrid seeds. I believe they are specially grown so that the seeds are "Feminized". The advantage of that comes because when you plant them you never get useless male plants, plus some hybrid vigor and known fruit characteristics of size, flavor, and flesh color. As I understand it, the growers of these seeds force a female plant to make pollen which fertilizes a female flower and results in seeds produces no males. By doing this, you can reliably produce seedlings which will all make fruit when transplanted. Commercially you need to be sure there is no chance of standing water around the papaya, full sun and high fertility. Try to avoid leaning trees they bear heavy loads and can easily be lodged over or break off in wind. Pick fruit at first color stripe for shipping.

This shows a fine example of what can be achieved:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ooVX7icbY

The main problem of growing fruits on a commercial scale in most African countries is getting quality propagation material. I have been collecting since 2003, and most need to be carried into Uganda by hand. So hybrid seeds will - at least in the beginning - be a one-time off, after which we need to propagate, select and try to stabilize a lineage, which we can use. Results will obviously not be optimal, but compared to the current situation - a big step up.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best commercial papayas out there?
« on: August 24, 2022, 03:20:57 AM »
I grow Sunrise aka Strawberry papaya.  No musk smell, and it's very sweet.  I recommend

I can see Oscar also enjoyed the Strawberry papaya, looks like Australia and Hawaii are the places to look for good varieties.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best commercial papayas out there?
« on: August 24, 2022, 03:19:22 AM »
Hi Steph,
Good to hear from you - yes, it's been a while, I got a beautiful hedge of your Surinam cherries at my compound :) How is your orchard doing? As you might remember, all the papayas in Uganda are unfortunately large, very mushy, with a large cavity and an offensive aftertaste, why none of them have commercial potential. I have tried a few different varieties from elsewhere, I remember one of the better being the broad leaf type from Mike T.

I would be happy to try out your "Eksotika"


Digging a bit on the forum I found a related old thread; https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=17998.0

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best commercial papayas out there?
« on: August 23, 2022, 01:07:58 PM »
Thanks. I will look for seeds.

Waimanolo 77 variety I hear is top tier. I'm growing this one out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best commercial papayas out there?
« on: August 22, 2022, 03:36:54 AM »
I'm looking for the best commercial papayas out there without the off-taste of vomit  :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit Similar to Starapple
« on: June 19, 2022, 02:26:50 PM »
Hi Oscar, just a revisit to this subject since I got a single tree of the species (from Jim) growing back in Uganda. Was it proper identified?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: psidium eugeniaefolia
« on: February 09, 2022, 05:04:06 AM »
It is PSIDIUM MYRTOIDES

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Mike, I had kept them in bags, but when we left Uganda in 2018, they were transplanted to the farm, and more or less left to fend for themselves. I am pretty sure they could have fruited faster  :) They seem very hardy and are doing well even when planted in heavy clay soils. Definitely a keeper.!

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My trees started fruiting a year or two ago, not sure as I wasn't around. But the boys at the farm liked them a lot. Managed to get a single fruit to our friend in Germany, but didn't taste it myself - will do so next time. The correct name is Mimusops balata, as both M. commersonii and M. maxima are synonyms.

My trees are upright by the way, thanks for the seeds Mike.!


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With a bit of luck, I will be heading to my farm in Tropical Africa in July and are therefore looking seeds to purchase of various Durians, Green Sapote and Mamey Sapote.

Mail address is Denmark.

kind regards, Søren

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: African Black Plum (Vitex doniana)
« on: May 07, 2021, 06:52:40 AM »
Are you going to go back? Are you in the Netherlands now?

Denmark, been there a year. Will head back to the farm in July if all goes well, and I am planning to bring a few new species with me  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: African Black Plum (Vitex doniana)
« on: May 07, 2021, 06:46:31 AM »
Likewise Mike! I am spending more time more on Facebook after I left Uganda  8)

Heya Soren its great to see you rounding out this thread after commenting a long time ago.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: African Black Plum (Vitex doniana)
« on: May 07, 2021, 06:24:59 AM »
It could be we have about three to four months dry season here in Northern Uganda.

John, I would love a couple of seedlings next time you the farm  ;D

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They normally get slightly bigger for the following fruiting. Are yours in the swamp Oscar, or on higher ground?

Mine fruited. I liked the taste, was just disappointed that they are small and not so much to eat. But the taste was kind of like passionfruit.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 4 great fruits from Uganda
« on: March 06, 2021, 07:27:28 AM »
Luc, how did it go with them?

Soren , here are your S. comorensis , planted 21/1/15 kept in full shade and wet , going well ....what is the most used common name ?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Aframomum sp. seed germination
« on: March 06, 2021, 07:17:46 AM »
The funny thing, in Uganda it's the pulp people love it for. Never heard anyone used the seeds as a spice, but probably more common in the rural areas


I’ve had this plant for 5 years in Nor Cal and no flowers whether in ground protected or open , or in a pot. Curious about the spice from seeds flavor like the leaf smell?

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It's loved by most in East Africa, but it's not sweet and I remember Anestor wasn't crazy about it. Would love to hear what people think. It's also a very plant.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Trade: Aframomum sp. - large fruits
« on: December 29, 2020, 05:52:49 AM »
Did they set fruit?

the aframomum seeds i got from Soren are flowering now, after about 6-7yrs...hoping they set fruits!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey Sapote seed viability
« on: December 29, 2020, 05:33:37 AM »
I got around 10 mature trees, but still in pots. Hopefully they will be transplanted to Gayaza next July... Stay tuned :-)


I would think moist would be better. I planted a seed soon after consuming the fruit (I believe it was a day or so after eating the fruit) and it did sprout within a month. Perhaps whoever sources your seeds could put some in moist vermiculite? Good luck!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Want Junglesop seeds
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:25:08 AM »
Are you on Facebook - Eric from CENDEP in Cameroon is probably the source of 95% of all junglesop seeds distributed the last five or so years. Find him searching the name: wirsiy fondzenyuy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cerrado Cashew (Anacardium humile)
« on: September 30, 2018, 11:00:51 AM »
Nutrient depleted ferralsols

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cerrado Cashew (Anacardium humile)
« on: September 29, 2018, 04:16:55 PM »
I have problems with all Anacardium spp. until transplanted to the ground, after which they take off in an almost insane growth speed  8)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black/purple Guava
« on: August 05, 2018, 12:57:49 PM »
That my friend is a Malaysian purple and the one I had grew strongly, looked lovely and produced fruit very well. Unfortunately the fruit quality left much to be desired and the tree volunteered for mulch patrol.I don't have enough space for looks to triumph over substance.

I'm not impressed either, but as many of them probably are seedlings variety can be expected.

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durio mansonii doesn't produce edible fruit - correct?

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