The Tropical Fruit Forum

This post was started almost 7 years ago, a few on this topic dont post here anymore. Would be great to see some updates on how this all went and where the trees are at now? Im sure some valuable information could be obtained from both hawaii and west africa.

Two months into the year and already 1910mm of rain at my place!!! And 1225mm of rain for February alone. The monsoon is showing no signs of letting go any time soon with return to heavy rain this weekend. We have two days of forecast “partly cloudy” coming up so we better enjoy it as that’s as close as we’re gunna get to sun for now.

Quote from: Finca La Isla on February 23, 2023, 08:49:11 AM

We are having durian right now as well, D-99. This is earlier than normal but, welcome of course!
Peter

Finca,
Have you seen any difference if fruit characteristics from cloned tree's that you are certain are the cultivar?
Or are the fruits pretty much identical to the clones description on average?
Would be good with some more input on how the environment could potentially affect the fruit outcome from a clone.

Peace

I would be interested to hear Peters comments on this as well considering he is in Costa rica.  I know Oscar from hawaii who used to post on this forum and in this thread in the early parts said that he planted roughly 50/50 seedling and grafted trees and that his seedling trees mostly produced the better fruit there from his orchard.

He also said that other growers he knew in hawaii who had grown ganyao clones there were pulling out the trees as the fruits were junk and not comparable to thailand....One can only assume climate and soils were having an affect.  There is a good website from a guy in hawaii called mike parker called something like empi fruits or something its one of the best sites re durian information outside SE Asia which is applicable to most people participating in this thread. 

He talks a bit about how certain clones perform in hawaii both good and bad and gives some good general information.  One thing that stood out to me was that they were finding large durian like monthong and Gumpun showing uneven ripening and this has been reported by many over there.  They are focusing on the smaller fruits for this reason as they dont have that problem.

Cassowary Im certainly no expert on ganyao sounds like you have a lot more experience with it.  This however was not bought at local markets or unknown persons it is from a family i know who are very knowledgeable on tropical fruits. A few generations back they were a part of the original group of people in the 70's and 80's who bought grafted trees back to australia from thailand So i dont really know what to think of this.

I do agree with you though i dont understand why the flesh is not bright yellow, i do wonder however if that is to do with our soils here? I have yet to see any durian in Australia that show the bright yellow colouration of those in thailand and malaysia? The grafted kradomthong i had at fruit forest farm also didnt have the bright yellow i see from thailand photos and videos ??

Has anyone else here in Australia noticed this also ? Maybe we get too much rain at the wrong time of the year that washes the colour down is this possible? Maybe our soils are deficient in something that makes them “yellow up” I also notice a lot of durians here get a "golden yellow" outside shell colour maybe from too intense sun? Most of the ones i see on videos in malyasia and thailand appear quite brown on the outside when ripe sometimes green?

Beautiful little ganyao durian this one was only 1kg I chose the smallest one and perfectly ripe had more edible flesh than the 3.4kg partially ripe monthong I had the other day. Gunna grow a seedling from this one.

I think they will be fine they just aren’t as happy as I’ve seen them, I think if the rain ever stops and dries out a bit they will be happy again.

Isn’t Malaysia like a 3 hour flight for you aussies anyway? Good god, just go already

Yeh mate I’ve just gotta convince the wife of some other reason to go there other than durians….. she has no idea why I’m so interested in going to Malaysia lol

Did your durian ripen up okay in the end? I also ended up buying underripe fruit last year so trying to avoid that this year.

Hey mate I prolly opened it a bit early cos I’m very impatient, some of it was ripe some not quite ripe. My daughter and I ate the whole thing. The segments that were nice and soft were excellent tasted just like kradumthong I had at Salleras farm. I’m pretty easy to please I just love the sweet durian taste. If I ever make it to maylasia and get to try the big guns like musang king and black thorn I will probably never return to Australia.

So Peter you haven’t found that when cutting the top branch that it encourages growth in the upper part of the tree not the lower? Mine grew a new leader but also put all its effort into the top of the tree it is now an upside down tree, I know some others in Hawaii have found this too very weird.

Yeah that one looks really spiky and green so probobly dripped in the wind or was harvested early.
I don't know of anyone in AU that know how to determine when to Pick Monthong so that it will still ripen up. One probably have to count the days and also count the days of full sun because they mature way faster in full sun weather vs rainy overcast.

That looks like a monthong hybrid because the stem is quite long, and where it abscessed is the natural joint because can't see any joint on the stem itself. It got uneven pollination that's why only one section if filled properly.


Peace,

Cassowary i think you are spot on, i probably shouldnt have bought it but when you havent had durian for 12months times get desperate.  Beggars cant be choosers, Still waiting for it to ripen......

You must have been there before me most likely same ones. She had a 6kg plus one at $120 mine isn’t ripe yet and most likely all the segments are not full but unfortunately not many other options.

Pineapple over Durian...
I am out.

Agreed