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Citrus General Discussion / Re: sumo
« on: March 22, 2023, 08:00:41 AM »
I'll let you know in a few more years. My pomelo seedling tree took 7 yrs to fruit, but it was worth the wait, excellent tasting fruit.

I believe Shiranuis are very likely true to seed.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loaded 9b Mangos
« on: March 22, 2023, 07:26:19 AM »
I think that tree can easily be older than 8

I do, no HLB in Pennsylvania.  Are you in NE USA, or EU?

Good for you with the greenhouse! I'm in New Hampshire, I would love to get some cuttings please. I'll PM you.

I'm in New England and looking for some shiranui cuttings please, does anyone have any for sale?


Hi all! I'm a new gardener in SoCal in zone 10A. I've been looking for a plum tree, but am getting some mixed info online and from local nurseries. I was going to try for a Santa Rosa, but am now hearing that they may not be as low chill as previously thought, and have been unreliable producers. Does anyone have varieties that can live with very low chill hours, and has a juicy texture? Texture is honestly more important than taste for me with plums, if I'm not needing to eat it over a sink I don't want it haha

Thanks for your guidance!

How much chill do you get? Shiro is considered low chill and quite juicy when ripe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat fruit fly
« on: March 06, 2023, 09:50:42 AM »
DAP can attract them also if it's sold there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: February 21, 2023, 09:24:26 AM »
I bought some rootstock from Alex (squam) in 2017 when I was first starting to get serious about grafting.
From what I remember I think it was probably a seedling from his monster Edward trees.
I grafted Thai everbearing and z-0 to it and left the middle branches to grow.
I was excited to see the seedling branches flowering this year.
I'll report in and let you know how the fruit turns out.

WOW, super long panicles. Is there any correlation between the colors of the panicle and the fruit?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How exactly does cross-breeding work?
« on: February 21, 2023, 04:00:42 AM »
Figs can taste better when pollinated with a certain caprifig vs an other. This was the result of a couple scientific research articles.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquats that can survive the desert heat
« on: February 19, 2023, 04:59:22 PM »
Give it an other try on a Quince rootstock.
Is there good reason for trying quince rootstock?  Or just why not try it ain't got nothing to lose?

What we know for sure is the dwarfing effect on Quince rootstock, but I suggested it since Loquats are thriving in very arid and hot areas in the Mediterranean despite very poor soil and extreme summer heat. I don't really have concrete evidence though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquats that can survive the desert heat
« on: February 17, 2023, 04:10:40 PM »
I've given up on loquats here in the Coachella Valley. Like the others in Phoenix have said, they do great until July rolls around, then they turn into crispy critters. I planted a Champagne and a Big Jim, as well as dozens of seedlings. One of our drivers in LA brings me "Nisperos" from his house every year, and I plant a few every year in different locations but they never survive the summer. Same goes with Avocados. Although one rancher I know has a 12 year old, near 20 foot avocado tree, that one of his workers planted next to a medjool date palm. It's never thrown a fruit one though.

Give it an other try on a Quince rootstock.

Figs can cope with being buried extremely well. If they feel that the deepest roots are having problems, they would just send new ones from somewhere closer the surface.

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: wtb "Gulf" type Plum scions
« on: February 10, 2023, 01:18:28 PM »
Looking for "Gulf" plum scions, Beauty, Ruby, Gold, Blaze, etc.

I'm also interested, let me know if you find any please.

What varieties are those waking up already please?

I also noticed that even when the base becomes just a tiny thin stick, it would still grow, I guess there has to be some cambium left. I even tried pulling thinking it would slide out but it's really stuck so the roots should be intact.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: February 09, 2023, 01:55:29 AM »
Israel is right in the middle of mesopotamia, the fertile crescent

I think modern world Israel is a bit on the side. You would be surprised, it's also very alkaline desert sand with a lot of heat in the summer and a lot of cold in some places.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: February 08, 2023, 05:41:17 AM »
I'll have to be happy with just longan.  Phoenix 8.x pH soil, water and heat is just too much for any lychee variety.

What I can't understand is how Lychees can thrive in Israel.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gold nugget self destruction
« on: February 08, 2023, 05:40:01 AM »
It's too late now; I'll start eating them as soon as possible, take it off, and cut the tree back. I have identical citrus trees in my yard. I'll share pictures of an 8-year-old mandarin tree that is even crazier than this one. It's been there for maybe five years.

Not too bad for a bot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat ripening in February ?
« on: February 05, 2023, 04:19:15 PM »
That sounds great! Is it the first year fruiting? I hope it can maintain the earliness in the future.

In my opinion the citrus industry has no future in florida unless we take measures to destroy all the plants for a decade or more so that MAYBE there is a future industry. They don't care about that though with the amount they sell their only in it for $ and don't give 2 hoots what happens or how resistant they are to disease. My 2 verigated lemons I have 3 yrs now just started flowering and now seems the nematodes are devouring the roots and the canopies are thinning out, looking like crap. Too much work to replace trees every few years to keep the disease alive. I'm never buying another stupid citrus tree anyway. Mango is king anyway so don't waste your 3 years to have you plant eaten up above and below ground.

Are you doing anything special for the nematodes to not bother the mangoes?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Delicious Papaya varieties
« on: February 04, 2023, 03:17:08 PM »
Red Lady is a very good for papaya, just decent overall as fruits go.

Papaya is best eaten green as a marinated veggie, imo.

Open minded to a ripened papaya that will change my perspective, waiting on one now.

Rob, ill go to whole foods right now and get you a Royal Star papaya. Those are delicious, normally the fruit tastes like vomit to me.
I've encouraged people to try growing those cause its just a great hybrid all around, works well eaten green too.

I also can only tolerate that variety but do you know anyone who fruited a seedling already? I wonder how the offsprings will taste like.

Neelսm with u
How did you do that?  See I can't spell Neelam with u.

You could copy and paste from my message, that u isn't really a u, it just looks like it.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Fruits - Ripe in SoCal December
« on: January 07, 2023, 06:33:53 PM »
Never seen anything like this before!

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