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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Kumquat seeds
« on: Today at 04:08:18 AM »
Looks like kumquat will be very hard to get here for a while (like years). As such I want to experiment with seed grown. Particularly looking for seeds from Meiwa. Thanks.

I'll be watching for your update

How were the cocktails ?
Any different to using regular Lemon or Lime ?
I hear it has flavour elements of both.
Sounds interesting.

It was ok, I like citrus with sparkling water and a nice blanco tequila. Usually in a 1:1 of juice to tequila. The flavour was ok, the half ounce of tequila was the most dissapointing. I much prefer a red or persian lime flavour wise, also I can usually get 2 oz of juice per fruit.
How does the red lime taste?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Favorite banana?
« on: March 18, 2023, 05:42:23 AM »
Since there are so many banana lovers here, have any of you tried one with a pumpkin is flavor? I had one once and loved it and have been trying to track down what it was since. It was grown in Florida.

Hey Rispa, there's 'Hua Moa' which is a plantain/banana that has pale orange flesh when ripe.

It maybe could be perceived as pumpkiny (is that a word?) in taste but the Cubans in south Florida like to use 'Hua Moa' to make fried plantains which are delish! 

But if you go looking for 'Hua Moa' in any of the latino community's grocery stores or markets in Miami or here in Tampa be aware that the spanish name here for 'Hua Moa' fruit is 'Hawaiana'.


Paul M.

Sweet! Thank you! I'll try to track it down in Houston 😁

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Favorite banana?
« on: March 17, 2023, 09:00:13 PM »
Since there are so many banana lovers here, have any of you tried one with a pumpkin is flavor? I had one once and loved it and have been trying to track down what it was since. It was grown in Florida.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling: some plants
« on: March 16, 2023, 10:20:25 PM »
Is that the purple mangosteen you see in stores?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: variegated eugenia uniflora
« on: March 16, 2023, 10:18:35 PM »
That's very 😎

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Passiflora-quadrangularis Challenge"
« on: March 13, 2023, 10:43:38 PM »
I was on the fence, but this is a nice push lol. I may not have the spot I want ready, but I'll find a place.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amla root system?
« on: March 09, 2023, 04:17:27 PM »
Honestly I would suggest calling your local Building/Engineering/Env. Health department and requesting that info, whoever regulates that for you there. Its all public information and should guide your decision.
Unfortunately, there is no national standard for these types of systems (To my knowledge), so I cant really be more helpful. When I worked in Env. Health in IL, septic and city sewer diagrams I reviewed varied in depth, material, size, etc. and it all depends on site condition factors such as soil permeability, soil composition, distance to groundwater, slope, flood hazard, etc. Of course, budget plays a role in that as well.

Papaya would probably be a decent shallow rooted option, or its relatives. But yeah regarding citrus, I think it just depends whats in the ground and how deep it is. I want to assume youre fine for a city line, but if problems come in the future dont blame me! lol.
Thank you for steering me in the right direction. I'll see what I can discover.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amla root system?
« on: March 09, 2023, 05:49:27 AM »
Amla has a fat taproot, so as long as you preserve that im sure the plants will be healthy. Its pretty hardy for poor growing conditions.

When you say sewer line, is it a city sewer line or a septic field line? if city, is it a larger sewer line or the one connected to your home? The city line materials, especially modern ones, are generally sturdy enough that most plants wont be an issue. Depending on the material of the line (if known) and soil conditions, citrus planted nearby may be fine, perhaps consider a cherry as they are shallow-rooted.

If youre talking septic, based on my own experience and understanding from working in that field, dont plant near it or on it. In addition to many potential health risks, the costs to repair/replace septic systems is bonkers.

Finally, my personal suggestion for something with shallow roots in your zone would be either Yauopon holly (Ilex vomitoria), beautiful plant with leaves that can be prepared for a great tea, or Southern Bayberry (Myrica cerifera), in addition to smelling good, would be awesome to graft some Yangmei in the next few years as scions become more readily available.
It's a city one. I thought the sewer lines were deeper, but apparently my friend who planted the Citrus hit it, so it's a shallow one. What soil conditions do you need to know? We have clay here. Do you know what materials I should ask about? I can probably call my local MUD that info.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm considering papaya (last year store fruit was terrible, so I need to plant some) too. There are definitely options, but I would need to shift my plans around and prefer to not need to. The Citrus would be kept small, so I can cover it during winter, so I'm debating trying it anyhow.

They're trying from seed because real cardamom rhizomes are nearly impossible to find in the US. I'm working on getting the real plants -- I'll have some baby ones for sale in about 5 weeks, and in about 6 months I'll have more mature plants. (Importing those from Kerala, India)
Ooh I'll be watching for your ad.

If you manage to get more I would like to purchase one

Thai/Indian jujube would be best to grow in Australia. Just ate one off one of our trees; crunchy, refreshing, and lightly sweet. As mentioned, all the Chinese ones need cold to flower. Would be growing them if I could.
Have you had success making more? I would really like to try growing this variety.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Amla root system?
« on: March 08, 2023, 09:04:06 AM »
What type of root system does amla have? I have Indian and Chinese and need to relocate them. I also found out there is a sewer line very close to the surface and I have 3 citrus planted near it, so they need to be moved and I need to plan for different plants over there. Suggestions are welcome.

There is a scion swap today that may help you with the connections you might need to find it. I think I remember someone saying there was a guava by a beer place of your want to go for testing taste

Does anyone have leads on this one? Or experience growing it? Based on reading it sounds worth trying in Houston.

We ate quite a few Eugenia caipora. Underripe had a slight bitterness around the skin and firm tart flesh. As they ripen it got juicier and the tartness became Mild with a black pepper type spice to it.  Not quite black pepper but a “spice” I can’t quite put my finger on.
Do you need more than one for fruit?

How does Eugenia caipora taste? The nickname intrigues me.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: White Pakistani Mulberry Cuttings
« on: February 26, 2023, 08:12:41 PM »
Not much difference between all the varieties that reference the long white mulberry fruits.
I have purchased the White Pakistan, Australian Green, King-Shahtoot, Saharanpur Local, and have them grafted to evaluate the similarity/differences.

What i found is that the fruits are pretty much the same size, tastes the same. Major different on these is the growth habit. The White Pakistan seems to grow the slowest, with more side branches with short nodes. It seems to be more of a dwarf growth if you compare it to the Australian Green.

The Australian Green grows fast, strong, has normal leaf nodes like the Black Pakistan. Fruits on Australian Green seems to hang a little longer when ripe. It is also the easiest to graft of all of them, but none can be grown from rooted cuttings much. They all need to be grafted.

Did you experiment with air layering and routing hormone? Did you notice a difference between fruiting time?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: varieties to eat in whole
« on: February 26, 2023, 12:17:52 AM »
Thomasville Citrangequat is good eaten whole. But most people spit out the seeds....your call...ha.

Can you describe the taste?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: ‘Haruka’ my favorite japanese citrus
« on: February 26, 2023, 12:16:59 AM »
I would say my Meiwa kumquat is the tastiest citrus.  Cant buy them anyway so I grow them.  My New Zealand lemonade comes in second.
If you get any seeds I would like to buy them. I would love to grow both. I don't think I can get New Zealand Lemonade here and the Meiwa kumquats have become impossible to find.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Still no flies or bees
« on: February 25, 2023, 11:28:55 AM »
I wondered about that last year in Houston. My guess is a new pesticide. My mom had the same issue across town from me. The year prior her yard was literally humming with all the bees. They did eventually come in the fall, but in the spring I had a huge issue. Blue basil helps. They really like it and having several plants helps attract them more fan anything else in my experience.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trees with Edible Leaves
« on: February 24, 2023, 05:39:01 PM »
Rispa, if you experiment with chives, maybe try blanching them.  Take a pot and cover the leaves to exclude light when they are starting to grow.  The leaves will stay white since they are not photosynthesizing and flavor will be more delicate.

Daylilies have a mild oniony flavor to me.  Dusky rouge was selected as one of the best tasting varieties by Greenwood Daylily Gardens.

This is a great article on edible daylilies if you've never tried it.  Important not to confuse daylilies (Hemerocallis) with the non edible
Lilium species.  Also as mentioned previously if you're going to try anything new introduce slowly, some people may have sensitivity to it.  Not all daylilies taste good, they have been highly bred for their ornamental value.

Daylilies are one of my favorite edible plants.  Ninja storm has been my favorite cultivar.  The most common way I eat them is to wait the day after when the flowers fade and collect them in the afternoon to add to my noodles.  I have also dried the collected faded flowers and stored them to add to soups later.  The deep purple pigment of the flower goes into whatever liquid you add it to. 


Very nice, I didn't know any lilies were edible. Thanks so much. I will add them to the garden plan 😊

Also I've never tried eating the flowers. If my chives bloom I'll try them 👍

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