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From another post on the forum from 2017:

" I found this interesting information on bakuri propagation in: “Fruit Trees and Useful Plants in Amazonian Life” published by FAO/CIFOR and PPI 2011

'If bacuri does not grow in your area on its own, you can plant it. You can do this in one of two ways: by planting the seeds, which take two years to germinate, or by planting grafts and sprouts that produce earlier. A good way to get sprouts quickly and cheaply is to plant a seed and wait 70 days for the roots to grow. Then cut the seed and leave the root in the ground. From the severed root, after two months, a small yellow sprout will grow, which requires a few more months to develop. You must wait about four or five months until the sprout reaches about 40 cm and is ready to be transplanted. A seed with a small piece of root can be used to form new sprouts. Just repeat the process. From one seed it is possible to obtain three or four sprouts. The recommended space for this planting is 10 x 10 m, reaching up to 115 plants/ha. Using this method you can have sprouts ready in less than one year.'"

Forum user Vernmented posted his seeds in ziplock bags with moist sphagnam moss, and had one successfully germinate. Idk if theres more posts continuing that elsewhere on the forum.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best native type persimmon
« on: March 28, 2023, 12:24:07 AM »
There isn't too much available online about American persimmon cultivars; I found the NC State Extension to be useful for summaries of named commercial varieties:
https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/diospyros-virginiana/

ARS Plant Germplasm database, misc. varieties when you search by species:
https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/search

Out of everything I read (briefly) about Mr. Lehman, looks like his most popular varieties in terms of current availability are the "Morris Burton" (low production, small fruit) and "Jerry Lehman's Delight 100-46" [F-100 cross] (good fruit quality and production)

The "Growing Fruit" forum has pages and pages of misc. threads on his work. Forum member "Barkslip" there seems to be currently active and has had access to Lehman's crosses budwood.
Never saw these growing up where I was in IL, wish I knew more. Personally, I would think the self-fertile commercial varieties, like Meader and Prok, would be easiest and most efficient to grow, unless you plan on doing persimmon breeding as well.
Hmmm...I found plenty on American persimmons. I bought some scions from a farm based on the data I bfoundnon the growingfruit forum and then thw may sellers websites. Rmmv

Feel free to drop any papers or data! Other than posts on other forums and a few websites, not much research coming up for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best native type persimmon
« on: March 27, 2023, 05:35:25 PM »
There isn't too much available online about American persimmon cultivars; I found the NC State Extension to be useful for summaries of named commercial varieties:
https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/diospyros-virginiana/

ARS Plant Germplasm database, misc. varieties when you search by species:
https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/search

Out of everything I read (briefly) about Mr. Lehman, looks like his most popular varieties in terms of current availability are the "Morris Burton" (low production, small fruit) and "Jerry Lehman's Delight 100-46" [F-100 cross] (good fruit quality and production)

The "Growing Fruit" forum has pages and pages of misc. threads on his work. Forum member "Barkslip" there seems to be currently active and has had access to Lehman's crosses budwood.
Never saw these growing up where I was in IL, wish I knew more. Personally, I would think the self-fertile commercial varieties, like Meader and Prok, would be easiest and most efficient to grow, unless you plan on doing persimmon breeding as well.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: OYSTERNUTS WANTED! :)
« on: March 26, 2023, 06:45:45 PM »
Forum member Haule has sold them before. Could try them.

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Kam, love the offerings, thanks for the opportunity to snag em.
I aint got time to import thats for sure.

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This is a scammer

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Ill say this, atleast for last year -- the prices were very reasonable for a wide variety of fruit trees. Ive seen prices spike in local nurseries within the last year. While they don't offer tons of rare varieties, theres still a lot to choose from. If you live nearby you may as well give it a shot.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB cupui and monkey orange
« on: March 24, 2023, 08:06:31 AM »
I just planted some green monkey orange seeds last week, would be glad to share if they germinate.

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Hey yall, I'm currently airlayering my yuzu, in the meantime I got a spare rooted cutting that I'm looking to trade. Prefer to meet around Ft Lauderdale but I can ship where legally allowed to.

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Very pumped. I prefer this sale over the Broward one, personally.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Plants for sale
« on: March 21, 2023, 07:32:01 PM »
Sent PM. Great variety Lance, thank you

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Inga spectabilis seeds
« on: March 21, 2023, 01:15:09 PM »
^and of course, HapaJoe the legend is always a recommendation.

In fact, Joe, I would be glad to get some spectabilis fruit from you next month too!

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I would also recommend Kohala Longan, best variety to grow in the states IMO.

I have a stunted aka "dwarf" (but growing) specimen I was keeping for myself in a 3-Gal, although I am open to trade. It would be good to keep potted if you try, and take it indoors for late fall/winter, cause I don't believe it will survive anything less than 9a.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Inga spectabilis seeds
« on: March 21, 2023, 12:49:57 PM »
Hey sytanta,

Good luck with your search! It was a bit difficult for me to find the Spectabilis and Jinicuil for awhile, but I purchased a few goods seeds off MauiSeedCompany on etsy. Great germination rate, would suggest inquiring about a mass order, they have edulis as well.
Could also try reaching out to palologrower on the forum, he has sold me inga seeds in the past I believe.

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Hey everyone!

Wanted to jump in on the trend of posting pictures with all this good weather we've been having. I was unfamiliar with Cecropia peltata until I stumbled upon one at the WPB Rare Fruit Council plant sale last year. Hope to find another at the same sale this weekend.

The pictures show the development of the "gummy worm" fruit. I have a strong belief that the fruits will be aborted since the plant is very young, but im hopeful to try one.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or advice on how to make my Cecropia as happy and strong as possible, limited useful information online. PS - I have ONLY a female tree. I am aware of the invasive potential when males are brought into the mix (plus they dont sell males).

Thanks!!


   

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@gnappi has a beautiful, mature, fruiting Fairchild #2. From my experience eating his fruit, theyre incredible and I definitely recommend!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Macro Fruitography and Zoom Shots
« on: March 18, 2023, 09:45:53 PM »
Phenomenal photos guys, thanks for sharing  :D

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Jabba,

If youre not already in the FB groups "North American Fruit Explorers - NAFEX" and "North American Scion Exchange", I suggest joining. Theres tons of posts throughout the week but not long ago saw some red-fleshed scions for sale, as well as other rare and misc. varities. Probably plenty more groups to joing from there. Best of luck.

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I'd love this one too, great price but no space.
If theres anything else you may be looking to trade for Mike and don't get any takers, let me know!

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Kaz,

Really awesome of you to share these cuttings with the community, along with your awesome challenge. People charge more than they should for these online (etsy/ebay etc.)
I would take some of the cuttings if I had the space, but my P. Quad vine is thick and boomin', leaves no space for others atm.

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Very glad to see interest in this species and genus growing as well,

I got 25 Kadsura longipedunculata seeds from tradewindsfruit that will go into germination now.

Would love to get in line for some of those hybrids Ted, and thanks again for joining!

Any update elouicious? I also got a bunch from trade winds months ago with no luck.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: March 12, 2023, 04:13:02 PM »
Al, I'll let you know the status in 6 months since I'm now grafting most of mine on M Pennsylvania.

Also interested in this. Have some M. pensylvanica that will be ready for grafting within the year.

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^I was that someone. I had phenomenal germination rates, and would definitely advise getting them from Ryan. Unfortunately, I was gone for a weekend and they all burnt to a crisp. Keep that in mind, they are definitely more sun-sensitive at this stage than I thought.

They were probably 2x the size of what Pinkturtle just posted. Roots were about 3x the length of the shoot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hi ask a question
« on: March 10, 2023, 11:08:16 PM »
I would not recommend using rarepalmseeds. Expensive all around and they could be too old to be viable.

I saw that Hapa Joe and Anderson Tropicals just updated their inventories on the buy/sell/trade thread of the forum with plenty of Duguetia species, I would inquire about international shipping.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: DMOR 38 mulberry - what is it?
« on: March 10, 2023, 06:22:57 PM »
You've got yourself a nice shahtoot mulberry (Morus macroura).

USDA-ARS Germplasm data below (although its not very informative):
https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/accessiondetail?id=1564312

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