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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB: Turpentine Mango seeds
« on: April 08, 2016, 09:45:14 AM »
I have a contact seeking to purchase in quantity. Does anyone know a place in south Florida that sells them once the season starts?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Jackfruit in Bermuda
« on: March 26, 2016, 06:11:22 PM »
A friend of mine has had 3 trees in the ground for about 10 years.  This is the 3rd time flowering and it appears she has her first fruit set.  There are lots of flowers the first is what I am thinking is female, the second male.  Anyone?

https://flic.kr/p/EM5EfZ

https://flic.kr/p/FAsYvP




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / 2016's First Lemon Zest
« on: January 09, 2016, 07:40:51 PM »
We'll sort of.  We brought out the last of the 2016 gems, a frozen Lemon Zest that I decided to wait until the new year to eat.  And we loved it.  My daughter exclaimed 'this is a reason to go to Florida every year!'  It was certainly not anything like a fresh fruit but this deep into even a Bermuda version of winter, I'll take it.  Just 6 more months to go....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hurricane Joaquin
« on: October 02, 2015, 08:05:59 PM »

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Storm Watch issued for Hawaii
« on: August 29, 2015, 09:45:09 PM »
I just saw TS watch issued for Hawaii with Cat 4 Ignacio due to pass by in the coming days - likely as a Cat 2.  Having experienced two hurricanes, including the eye of a Cat 3, in a single week last year, I bid all the forum members there the best. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Harry's July 12 2015 Mango Tasting
« on: July 12, 2015, 07:21:34 PM »
Today we have the distinct pleasure of a mango tasting hosted by  the maitre d of mango Harry H.  As always, it rocked.  Sleepdoc and Sheehan brought some real winners and I added a few to the table also.  Perhaps the only thing better than the mangoes was the seeming nonstop laughs we had.  Many will be inside jokes but just so I recall (please fill in the blanks other attendees...)

In no particular order:
- pee protein
- world's best uncle (Sheehan)
- world's best Dad (Sheehan)
- world's best husband (Sheehan)
- potential Monsanto lawyer? (Harry)
- world's best resume experience (Sheehan)
- Afros in China
- prerequisites for pink sand
- staying out of trouble in Thailand
- worst 5 hours of my life every day (boring Netflix episodes)
- vacation to watch Netflix in Bermuda?
- Puerto Rico invites and 4 consecutive No shows

Oh.  And we had some awesome mangoes too.  Just goes to show, mangoes are no substitute for friends....

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Update:

I have the following available but only for today and on a first come first serve basis

Coconut Cream (2)
Ivory
Mammou
Nam Doc Mai
34-12
Maha Chanok
Pickering
K-3
Cogshall
Henry
O-13
Pim Seng Mun
ValCarrie


PM me.


As noted here, http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=15518.0 I am running through Florida's finest mango offerings for the sixth year running.  On a very limited basis I can ship fresh seeds of these to far flung places without access to budwood or grafted trees of these gems.  PM me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Black Sapote as a Rootstock
« on: June 26, 2015, 07:31:20 PM »
Has anyone used black sapote as a rootstock for other trees?  It is quite a drought tolerant plant in my location and survives with minimal attention, even in pots.  Much better than any other plant I have.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Crossing sugar cane & making seed?
« on: May 09, 2015, 09:41:46 AM »
I recently saw a video (made by a rum producer from South America) and in the video they showed sugarcane with flowers. This was the first I have seen this.  Has anyone seen (in person) a sugar can plant flower before? I note per the link below they can produce seeds also. Crossing sugar cane plants would be a great project and I wonder if those in locales that support flowering (day length, temps) are doing this....

http://www.sugarcanecrops.com/growth_morphology/the_inflorescence/

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For the fifth successive year, I am visiting southiFlorida to sample the best fruits on offer.  Past reviews can be seen

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=11316.0
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=6365.0
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2104.msg28912#msg28912

(The first year was done on that 'other' tropical fruit forum.

I am starting early this year as I had the opportunity to pass through FL yesterday for the day.  I will also be in the area in June, the main trip in July and again briefly in August.

Yesterday I went to Squam's place for the first time.  Impressive space!  I picked up some early mangoes, mainly Edward with a few others (Wester, Rosigold) in there.  I also sampled his (Thomas?) sapodilla which was huge (up to 3lb), good tasting - and seedless.

As the Edwards ripen I will comment on them here.

I also had the pleasure to get some early mangoes at Truly Tropical -Tess Polluck, Dwarf Hawaiian plus some caimito and black sapote.   Chris is always a great host and I encourage anyone in the area to patronize her.  She gets visitors from as far away as Atlanta, Arizona, Bermuda several times a year seeking to get their tropical fruit fix.

Tess Polluck is super juicy and quite good for so early in the season.  Yes, its  parentage can be sensed in the turpentine taste is some portions of it but in April....no complaints from me.

I left all the mangoes in my car overnight and was  greeted by sweet aroma as I headed to the airport at 4am.

Same pleasant surprise 3 hours into my flight (to San Francisco) when I opened the overhead bin...sweet aroma.

As much as I coddled my sole black sapote while in transit, it arrived as mush in a plastic bag.  Never fear, I sat down to eat it and it was perfect....and seedless.  Follow up with a caimito and Tess Polluck and I am all good for meal #1.

Out and about in Palo Alto, I picked up some white sapote (from Santa Barbara), feijoa (from New Zealand) and those mini avocados. Should be able to find some custard apples later. I did also see some Haden's for sale which may get my attention later in the week.

This is just a warm up set of posts with the main event to come in July. 

Can we top the 41 varieties enjoyed in 2014? 

Well this is a good start...

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I listened to an array of presenters on an online summit this week.  One was championing the cause, among other things, for direct seeding plants (vegetables and trees).  He stated there were plenty who disagree with his view but essentially he reasoned that transplanting is compromising the taproot of plants which compromises their performance.

He argues those who claim to find taproots on transplants are actually finding 2-4 taproots, none of which drive as deep or as well as the single one of a direct seeded plant.

So, has anyone experience in direct seeds rootstock and grafting onto it in place?

I seems clear that vast majority of our grafted fruit trees are transplanted but am curious as to if anyone has comparative observation of direct seeded alongside transplanted, ideally with same variety for comparative purposes.

Perhaps we are all used to compromised taproots/plants hence it is normal, not noticed.  It would be interesting, for example, to see if any changes in growth habit and production resulting with premier tasting varieties with unreliable production habits (noting not all production issues are to do with root development).

In my talk with Walter Zill about mangos, he very strongly emphasized their need to get in the ground and get their roots down to be able to thrive...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ecuador grown Nam Doc Mai
« on: January 19, 2015, 01:01:37 PM »
I saw a post but was not able to find it (so apologies for any duplication) regarding Nam Doc Mai mangoes imported to the US from Bolvia.  I am in FL until Friday and also found some at an Asian Supermarket (Tien Hung Complete Oriental Foods on 1112 E Colonial Drive, Orlando).

The first of the box was bland with only a hint of vanilla but the second which had a large black spoiling spot was more like the NDM I am used to.  The good portion was vanilla to good effect.

I also picked up some Rambutan, longan and sapodillas. There was one soft soursop I left behind.

Good eating for January.

(Title edit to put Ecuador not Bolivia)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fairchild 2015 Mango Festival
« on: January 03, 2015, 06:27:33 PM »
It is January 3rd so why not start talking about....never to early.  😄

http://www.fairchildgarden.org/Events-Community-Outreach/Mango-Festival

Look forward to Future's Fifth Florida Feast.  I do!  😃

Here is the Fourth

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Visiting Dallas - Where are the fruit?
« on: November 08, 2014, 01:11:19 PM »
I will be in Dallas for 5 days.  Any comments from locals or knowledgeable folks on where tropical fruits can be found would be appreciated.  Per suggestions on a prior visit to Austin, I did search for Asian Supermarkets and am curious has to how specific ones are rated by locals...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tropical Storm Fay, Gonzalo next?
« on: October 13, 2014, 10:54:33 AM »
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov

Bermuda experienced essentially a direct hit yesterday.  Winds appeared higher than TS strength with the weather service indicating triple digit gusts.  One unconfirmed report saw a gust to 155 mph. In any case, noteworthy tree damage, property damage and power outages across the country.  The trees in my yard did fine for the most part.  I expect many of the bananas at another property will be leveled.  For context, Bermuda has sme very sturdy infrastructure and thus only a small % of homes will have any serious damage.  I do know a few who lost parts of their roof structures.

http://bernews.com/2014/10/bws-bermuda-sustained-direct-hit-fay/

Bermuda weather serive website indicates 71 knots as the peak.

http://www.weather.bm/climatereport/climateReport.asp#jsAnchor




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Florida Mango Growing - northern limit
« on: October 10, 2014, 07:48:15 PM »
What is the generally accepted limit for locations for mango growing in Florida?  I am aware of the Merritt island situation, sandwiched between two rivers.  What about ,coastal or otherwise, places without this feature south of there?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Largest Polyembryonic Mango?
« on: September 21, 2014, 01:57:08 PM »
I met with a elder yesterday who's mother brought back a seed from a mango she at more than 2 decades ago while on vacation in Europe.  The resulting tree is fully mature and fruiting now and have large fruit.  She says her mother called it a "Beefy" mango.  I do have my doubts although I note there is a mango by this common name in at least one Caribbean island.

I will post a picture but for now some noteworthy points: the mango she gave me is 2 lb. 5 oz.

She says some are over 3 lbs.

It has a beak shape, somewhat typical of SE Asian mangoes.

She says the seed is very thin, which would be amazing for such a large fruit.

This also supports the SE Asian origin and it potentially being polyembryonic. To be confirmed.

We have cuttings and will graft this up today but in the meantime:

Has anyone experienced a poly mango this large or larger?  If so, what was it?

Has anyone heard of a "Beefy" mango?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Giving up in trees in pots
« on: August 05, 2014, 05:56:18 PM »
I have some constraints with leased parcels of arable land hence initially explored growing trees in cloth pots.  I noticed that some trees are much more suited than others to this.  Black sapote, soursop, Santol in particular seem fine.  Avocado does ok - nearly lost one.  Abiu and mango have not done well for me - lost many. Near too many.  For context, these plants were left to their own devices for 3 weeks in the summer, with most being over a year old.  In my mind I though it would be ok.  For the abiu and mango, clearly not. 

So now am I looking to get on with burying these pots this fall and ideally the rains get them established in the ground.  Prune them to no larger than 7 ft and if push ever comes to shove, and they need removal, I am banking on either being able to remove them or worst case, get the budwood....

Any comments on what trees have NOT done well in pots for you?

What has?

Most of mine are 7 gallon and when I am hear they water every 2 or 3 days depending on the weather. 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Seedless Sugar Apple
« on: July 29, 2014, 10:16:53 PM »
As part of my Florida Fruit Feat I picked up a few sugar apples from Truly Tropical, some greens and some reds.  Among the greens I found one with no seeds.  It was a small one but this is something I have never experienced before.  Anyone else?

How can a sugar apple fruit without producing a single seed?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Operation California - help needed
« on: July 16, 2014, 11:02:44 AM »
Greetings to all fellow tropical plant enthusiasts.

For those who haven't see it, for the 4th consecutive year I have been chronicling the amazing fruits we are enjoying in Florida.  http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=11316.0

For those who don't know, Bermuda is one if the most restrictive places on Earth to import plant material into.  California is the last place left that meets requirements and even then, lab tests and willing providers has proven tough to come by.

Yesterday I was informed that mango seeds require phytos as well due to the risk of weevils and they should also come from areas free of weevils, which it is said our rare. 

Thus cutting, plants and now seeds have major hurdles to entry.

But having eaten amazing offerings from Harry, Sleepdoc, Zills, Truly Tropical, Farichild, Merrit Island...we refuse to give up on the vision.

Thus today I launch Operation California.

To stay within the law, we are seeking existing mango growers or willing growers in California who can host grafted trees. 

We have a list of varieties we are seeking which I will post momentarily.

We will procure varieties no yet in Cali as required.

We will arrange for inspections and phyto certificates next summer at the earliest.

We will fly to LA next summer to collect and lawfully take to Bermuda.

We are already preparing to implement what we have learned from our FL trip to be ready.

Anyone willing to participate as

- suppliers of bud wood to go to Cali
- existing or willing growers in Cali
- persons with grafting skills in Cali

please post a message here or PM me.

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I was showing a friend some monster Jackfruit from a supermarket in Austin.  She wonders if Jackfruit can be imported to Bermuda from a US source through the supermarkets (some of which do get their hands on mangosteen, lychee, cherimoya regularly). At the same time as far as I know we cannot import fruit from Florida.  So, are there commercially grown jackfruit outside of FL in the US?

Mind you, distributors are probably not clear on or even communicating where fruit was grown.  I know FL grown jackfruit are distributed as far north as Toronto...

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Wanted: Polyembryonic Mango seeds
« on: June 26, 2014, 12:51:44 PM »
I live in a country that is very restrictive on plant imports his must grow from seed.  I'll be in Florida July 9-21 on the hunt for good seed and am willing to collect where possible.  I am particularly interested in:

Lemon Zest
Coconut Cream (poly?)
Orange Sherbert (poly?)
Mammou
Brahm Kai Mau
Dupuis Saigon
Pim Seng Mun
Pram Kai Mea
Choc Anon
Mesk
Turpentine

If anyone suggest others polys, I am open to them.

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For the fourth year running, I will visit south Florida to sample the best fruits on offer.  Past reviews can be seen http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=6365.0 and http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2104.msg28912#msg28912

This year promises to be the best yet with many contacts made over the years.  I have advised my family that I will save some space in the car for luggage.  But most of it will be taken up by tropical fruit.  Look out for reviews beginning July 9th. 

We will be at the Fairchild mango festival, King Harry Hausman's, Gene's Unbelievable Acres (first time), Truly Tropical, Zills, a U-Pik jackfruit farm, Robert is Here,  first time: Merritt island, Squam's, Benders Grove and even Adam's place if he is open to it. 

It's on!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Visiting Austin TX! Where are the fruit?
« on: June 08, 2014, 11:58:24 AM »
Greetings all!  Noting I have already connected with Edzone9 I am shouting out to tropical fruit growers in the Austin area in that I will be speaking at a conference there next week hence am looking to get access to whatever tropical fruits - be they local or imported - while I am there.  So if you have suggestions...please fire away.  If there are specific things (seeds) from Bermuda that I can bring - not much happening now I must say - I am open to it.  Thanks in advance!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Thai Mangos from thanavaro.com
« on: June 07, 2014, 09:06:08 PM »
Has anyone ordered mangoes from here?  I see they have many Thai varieties I am looking for.  (I need seed).

From the site:
Thai Mango varieties included Choc Anon, Fralan, Nam Dok Mai, Keow Savoie, Kong Lum Kloang, Maha Chanok, Mun Kun Sri, Nung Klang Wan, Okrong Phikun Thong, Okrong Thong, Pim Seng Mun, Pram Kai Mea, Rad, Thong Dam and Yai Grom.


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