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There are several reasons a mono seed might develop multiple stems (damage, disease, nutrition, etc.,). Next Kent seed you germinate, snap off the stem before the leaves harden-off; it'll start  new stems from the collar. The mangoes you are getting this time of year are coming from outside the US and have gone through various processes to keep them edible/sellable and pass through US Customs. The answer to why it's happening probably lies somewhere in that process

Again, multiple stems does not make it poly. Poly seeds are fairly easy to spot; peel the brown skin off the seed and you should see separate/segmented embryos. Each embryo is genetically distinct from the others. You can take a poly apart like a puzzle and germinate each segment (no matter how small the segment is). This page has some pics that might be useful in understanding what a poly would look like: https://www.graftamango.com/learn-how-to-germinate-turpentine-mango-seeds

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please make a TFF App!!!!
« on: February 06, 2025, 03:42:26 PM »
As GiP outlined, a custom app is just not realistic. Porting to Discourse or Flarum would be the way to go, IMO. Both are modern forum software, free to install, and should work in the same hosting environment TFF is in currently. The problem is porting everything over. I've done many version upgrades over the years within the same platform/software, and things very often go sideways that require a bunch of tweaks to underlying SQL queries and multiple trial/error reloads. Moving to a different platform would likely mean converting nearly everything; text formatting, image links, user passwords would probably break (all users would have to recover their passwords). It could take weeks/months for a solo dev. Maybe 20 years ago when I had no wife/kids and time to burn...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please make a TFF App!!!!
« on: February 05, 2025, 08:19:01 PM »
SMF is older software; nobody was concerned with small screens and low-powered mobile devices 20 years ago. It's also open-source, so there's maybe not as much of an urgency for/at SMF to rewrite working code and take on the challenge of re-designing the software for today's mobile-first world. There are surely SMF templates available that function better on small screens, but even the smoothest template transition breaks the way people are used to some features working.

Porting over to modern forum software would be the way to go; building an app just for mobile devices would be pricey overkill. That said, moving all the old posts, user accounts, etc., over would not be fun.

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Lots of sellers on Esty. I just picked up some seeds, starting them in the next two weeks (first attempt with these)

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It is possible that the root was damaged at some point and both roots are from the same embryo. Time will tell when the stem(s) growth starts.
That's what I was thinking; I can only make out one stem in the pic.

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Thanks for the suggestion. I guess, my biggest problem is to decide whether I want an early season one or the one that fruits late. What are the pros/cons of those?
The biggest problem of my location is not enough wind and it gets pretty wet in summer. Carrie has been doing ok there.
If anthracnose is a big problem for you, you'll want to avoid fruiting during your rainy season when it flourishes, as best you can. Focus on early and/or disease-resistant varieties. The earlies you list are old varieties, nothing wrong with them, but there are other early candidates with better disease-resistance (Guava is a very good one). The link I gave you to TAF should be where you go first, Alex does a good job of giving you an overview of the characteristics of the varieties he grows. You can also buy the trees from him. Good luck!

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maybe one of those posts would be a good candidate for a pin?
Maybe...good luck in your finding said post; let me know when you think you've found it :)


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There are many opinion/feedback posts for each of those varieties going back over a decade; many from users who were very experienced growers, but are no longer active here. Use the search tool to get your information and narrow your choices: https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?action=search


Not saying you won't get opinions, you will, but these types of questions have been asked & answered time and again here.
Another great resource on varietals: https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/mangos (scroll to the bottom of the page, the table listing is the most efficient way to search IMO)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's my first time grafting
« on: January 14, 2025, 12:00:07 PM »
Might be a good idea to wrap the unions with something to give them a little more strength; once the branches start bending with fruit, any weak spots in the union could cost you the branch. I do it pretty habitually on all my unions once I remove the grafting plastic wrap; it makes for a prettier union scar and there's no worry of one side separating (there's no need to trim deadwood, either).


Spaugh had recommended Texas Roll Flagging tape awhile back for grafting, so I picked up a roll to test it out. I don't like it for grafting, but it is perfect for what I am recommending here. It'll give you a nice, tight wrap, but it also has give to it. I imagine you could wrap it too thick and cause the branch to girdle, but I've never had it happen (don't tie it off tight, try to allow some give/expansion). The tape expands over time with the branch, so I don't have to twice about it for a year or two and then remove it for good. It comes in a bunch of colors, so you could use it to differentiate different varieties or seasons/years the grafts were made, etc.,.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart vs Cecilove Mango
« on: January 08, 2025, 11:25:19 AM »
John -
Are you impuning that my Cecilove is in question due to it's health?
Now don't be offended.  Did you get your tree from Dr. Campbell?
My Cecilove is from TAF and has been fruiting for two seasons, no doubt what I have.
I know there are pictures on my phone from when it flushed a few years back; I am 90% sure they look something like GG's, but I don't have the time to scroll through Gigs of pics right now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart vs Cecilove Mango
« on: January 08, 2025, 11:19:53 AM »
Here is my sad example


I have seen that so many times, fatal flowering would be a good term for it. The last thing a small, less-than-healthy grafted tree needs to do is put precious energy into flowering, but they do it determinedly.

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Have you looked on Etsy?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart vs Cecilove Mango
« on: January 07, 2025, 01:52:48 PM »
Where did you get your tree?  The leaves on my CeciLove look NOTHING like that.  I got my tree from TAF so I'm 95% certain it's the real thing.  I hope others with the variety will comment.  I feel pretty confident that your tree is not CeciLove.  I just saw a video with young CeciLove trees today.
Shape would be the better determiner, IMO; color of new leaves seems to vary based on health/nutrition of the tree (rootstock may also play a role). I had the same variety grafted to an in-ground and one in a pot; the potted flushed a brilliant scarlet color while the other was nothing special. The potted tree died later that season....

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F'd nearly all my 2-3' Jack seedlings up, they are just now starting to sprout new growth. Wind wasn't the problem; it was salt spray burning the leaves almost entirely (even though I'm a few blocks from the Intercoastal). Salt spray did a number on all my fruit trees in one section of my yard (except for my one small Achachairu, which didn't get any noticeable salt damage).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: is this front yard jackfruit fair game?
« on: December 29, 2024, 08:50:29 AM »
It's no more fair game than a bike, lawnmower, dog, etc., in the same spot. It's clearly in and over their yard; it is their property and it would be stealing from them if someone took one in Florida. Might be hard to get a law officer to do something about it unless they are right there when it's happening (and even then it'll probably result in a warning), but it's not acceptable legally.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Semil 55 Avocado
« on: December 18, 2024, 11:12:13 AM »
I have Semil 34, and it is tasty. Good to have when all the stores have in-stock now are the fake-Hass

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado cocktail tree
« on: November 08, 2024, 12:52:04 PM »
My Semil 34 fruit came off super clean and delicious. Creamy, slightly firm with a mild sweet/nutty flavor; stayed in the fridge for weeks after it softened before I peeled it. Pretty big fruit with a smallish seed, just ate my last one two weeks ago. It's a grower, doesn't have any issues with our Florida sun, but it'll take over if you have it paired with something that doesn't similarly thrive.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Milton
« on: October 12, 2024, 11:12:05 AM »
We topped out at 102mph in my part of Sarasota (right next to Siesta Key). We have our power back and only have yard clean-up of small/mid oak tree branches and lots of downed big fishtail palms. Fishtails are great for a fast-growing, tall privacy hedge, but I'll never plant them near anything I care about again. Mango trees all fared well, but avocado trees are all slightly/largely askew. Large pine trees seemed to have fared the worst; they seem to break, not bend.


When the eye was breaking up right before it came ashore it seemed like we were going to get lucky once again here, but that backside was so fierce. I hate to imagine what a 165mph storm would do. Really don't like thinking about what the future holds for us here; these monster storms will hit us multiple times each year with the Gulf annually getting so hot. We are raised on the hero who saves the day at the last minute, the scientist who comes up with the antidote or invention that saves humanity from extinction, but the reality is we are stuck living in this situation; it's the new normal.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What I should I do with my mango trees
« on: October 04, 2024, 12:22:40 PM »
And what if I left three Sweet Tart in one pot. Can they coexist forever? I was toying with using the smaller trunks as grafting scions on a top worked Manila next spring.
It's not recommended, and one would eventually likely overtake the others. Waiting while they compete for nutrients, sunlight and space until a winner appears is lost growth-time. You could try to approach graft them (if they are close enough), and then cull the weaker tops.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What I should I do with my mango trees
« on: October 04, 2024, 11:02:15 AM »
You'd be bare-rooting them to separate, which can be very stressful, but with that many years to go before you plant them I'd do it. Here's what I would do when separating seedlings:
  • Have the new pots ready to go and most the soil ready that you'll be needing. Take two bamboo stakes (or whatever) and stand them up in the new containers, make a mark on each stake at the level where you want the top of the soil in the container. 
  • Get some tarp down to work on-top of, lay the pot on it's side, give it a few rolls to loosen up the soil and then work them out by gripping the base of the trees with one hand and working the pot in the other.
  • Once they are free, work all the soil out and gently shake/push/pull them apart; it can be quite a fun puzzle....unless you start snapping large roots off.
  • For each, take a stake and line the base/collar of the tree up with the mark you made on the stake, then tie the tree to the stake in several places.
  • Take the soil from the old container and mix it with the new soil well. This is probably not vital/necessary, but I like to treat it like moving a fish to a new fish tank (and you need less new soil).
  • Place the staked tree in the center of the container, be careful to spread/distribute the roots around the base of the container (if they are longer than the stake). Optimally, the container is deeper than the length of the roots, so they aren't immediately in a spin-out situation.
  • Take scoops of the soil and slowly add it to the container. As the soil level rises, gently spread the roots that are being covered. You want to get them reasonably spread laterally; just dumping the soil in will force the roots close to each other and the center of the pot, not great for stability and nutrient/moisture uptake. You may want to water at some level(s) as you go, depends on how big your pot is and how dry the climate. Dry-pockets aren't a huge concern for me here, but CA is much drier.
  • Once you've reached the soil level mark you made on the stake, add an inch or three more above that to account for the soil settling. 
  • Give it a good watering 2-3 times and place it in complete shade for a few days/weeks. If the leaves sag/drop you'll know it's stressed; you don't want to put it in any direct sunlight when it's stressed. Don't let the soil completely dry-out, but also don't keep the soil so wet you induce root-rot.
  • After a few days/weeks, if the leaves are perky and the tree seems happy, start to introduce it back to full sun starting with direct morning sun.
Good Luck!

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Shade Grown Florida Tomatoes
« on: October 03, 2024, 08:42:27 PM »
Hi @DavidBYE,

Thanks for sharing your experience! 🌿 I completely agree with you and like about the benefits of planting under trees. It's amazing how much healthier and longer-lived the plants can be with a bit of shade.

The summer heat can indeed be harsh on veggies, causing stress and disappointment. Growing veggies in the fall/winter or providing some shade during the hottest part of the day sounds like a smart approach. It’s all about finding ways to make gardening enjoyable and sustainable.

Have you ever tried using coco peat for your plants? It helps retain moisture and keeps the roots cool, making it great for managing heat stress. Green ScienX offers fantastic coir grow bags that could be a perfect addition to your gardening setup. Happy gardening!

Thanks,
Suganya
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Green ScienX
Hi Suganya. Happy to have you contribute to the conversations, but no more product links or marketing please. You have your company name/link in your posts, that's enough.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Grasshoppers
« on: October 01, 2024, 02:42:26 PM »
I have those giant swallow tail caterpillars that look exactly like bird poop all over my citrus currently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cY26ft5AwA
Pretty butterfly, but they are so destructive to the few healthy leaves I have on some of my small citrus trees. Most leaves are mangled from CLM and/or ACP, but the caterpillars (anecdotally) seem to stay away from those.

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