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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: November 03, 2021, 11:27:13 PM »
Kumin is correct, Arctic Frost trees are always sold growing on their own roots.  The tree is a cross between a Satsuma and Changsha mandarin by Dr. Yang Doon, and is hardy to about 15F when dormant, and mid 20sF if not dormant.

I have one and I believe it was grafted. I'll check tomorrow.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Good source for Yuzuquat?
« on: November 03, 2021, 11:26:28 PM »
I don't believe so. Yuzuquat is a mix between Yuzu and Kumquat, while Sudachi is iirc a hybrid of Yuzu and tachibana orange + potentially one other japanese variety (non-kumquat). The results are (i'm told) that Yuzuquat is infinitely more palatable than Sudachi.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Good source for Yuzuquat?
« on: November 03, 2021, 03:45:37 PM »
I've heard there are some decent tasting varieties out there, potentially even more cold hardy than the Yuzu parent. If true, anyone know any sources? I know a ton of places to get yuzu, but I don't love the idea of trying to cross-pollinate with my kumquats until i'm successful. Would much prefer a reliable source :D

[I just realized this might be better in buy/sell/trade, but can't delete the post and don't want to double-post :/]

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No worries. You may also want to try Virginia Fruit Grower - he may be able to offer some scionwood if you're up for grafting.

And of course, Madison Citrus has some decent potential cold-hardy citrus, although edibility of some of the poncirus rootstock may be questionable (ignore the faust, that's going in a pot indoors....https://gyazo.com/f4152b69275b18f8ef8ab89b4e5dbf1c)

[P.S., love the name. I used to grow carolina reapers here in 'bama all the time. Got a 7 year old (!) Habanero plant i've been keeping alive by overwintering indoors.)

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I’ve been buying several times from BellamyTrees on Etsy, as a rare source of cold Hardy citrus. The plants were always shipped in careful packaging and excellent condition. I can’t say enough great things.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Report
« on: October 24, 2021, 02:47:17 AM »
Hey GregW, I'm near the Harvest, AL area, so we're about 90 minutes apart. I also have an arctic frost satsuma, though shortly after purchase, I was told by many in the community that it seems to fare no better than most other satsumas, and the name appears to be mostly for marketing purposes. We'll find out soon - I've got it on the south side of my house, but this is going to be its first winter in the ground.

I can say that, however our arctic frosts perform, it appears that some of the desirable qualities here may be (as others have told me) early ripening and how the tree handles dormancy. If it is grafted, is the graft high? if it goes dormant, does it break dormancy easily? Etc.

I'm looking into some early Louisiana varieties I hear may be viable. There's also the Xie Shen, which I'm trailing, as I've heard stories that it may be slightly more cold hardy than the arctic frost due to a longer dormancy period.

Let me know how it goes!

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“Somewhere between an orange and a lemon.”

Heh.

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SoCal - I tried to ask previously, but I never got to see any answers; the forum was in the middle of whatever that strange access issue was, and the topic seemed to have completely disappeared. Since I assumed it never actually got posted in the first place, I wanted to wait a bit until the issues appeared resolved and then try again.

But thanks for the info!

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Thanks for the advice!

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Citrus General Discussion / Bringing the finger limes indoors - any tips?
« on: October 19, 2021, 01:54:10 AM »
Hey folks, bringing several finger limes and a blood orange indoors for the winter here in 7b.

This will actually be the first time I've grown citrus indoors, other than a mostly dormant kumquat. Does anyone have any specific tips for finger limes? Never grown them before (indoors OR outdoors).

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Anyone ever figure out what type of Citrus this was?
« on: October 19, 2021, 01:52:37 AM »
From the story, it has all the staples of something I should be seeking for my little grove, i'm quite intrigued! https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/home/hardy-citrus-trees-take-root-in-local-suburbs/2013/09/24/d62c16d4-20ad-11e3-b73c-aab60bf735d0_story.html

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Still searching.

There's a guy on etsy (BellamyTrees) who sometimes does some hard-to-find cold hardy citrus; got an Ichang papedo, a morton, a keraji, a clem-yuz 2-2, and some others from him, but his inventory changes frequently w/o notice. I juuuust missed the dimicelli / dimicilli :/

I also managed to get some cold hardy stuff from georgiagrowncitrus.com and woodlanders.com

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: FFT (Fast fruiting trifoliate)
« on: October 08, 2021, 06:38:08 PM »
Tried tossing a PM, not sure if the forum issues have killed that, though.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: FFT (Fast fruiting trifoliate)
« on: October 06, 2021, 10:13:39 PM »
Oooh can I get in on this action?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Yuzu seedling growing in Washington state
« on: October 05, 2021, 02:46:35 PM »
My Yuzu survived last winter in the ground in rural north Alabama (7b)

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Storing yam bulbils
« on: September 26, 2021, 11:05:36 AM »
it's all about keeping them in a cool, dry place with airflow. There are a gazillion studies on what inhibits or encourages sprouting (everything from essential oils to keeping them near or far from apples, due to the ethylene). Bottom-line is it seems no one really knows with potatoes, and dioscorea yams, while a close cousin, are even less well understood.

But cool, dry, and with airflow are what helped me keep my dioscorea from sprouting for 6 or so months.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Edible "weeds"
« on: September 25, 2021, 04:44:30 PM »
air potato.

[There are edible versions of dioscorea bulbifera. Hard to find in the US, but you will struggle to find a more prolific edible "weed" once it starts growing]

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I attempted to germinate perhaps 35 different flexuosum seeds. Of the 35, 3 germinated. Of the 3, 1 has survived to maturity. I've got it sitting outside in a pot now. It's juuuust fruiting.

So excited. I'm in zone 7, so my goal here is to try and developed future generations of it that are slightly more cold-hardy.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Where to buy citrus online (USA)
« on: September 25, 2021, 04:38:43 PM »
Not sure if anyone has tried them, but https://georgiagrowncitrus.com/ is a fantastic seller that has some high-quality plants and a few tough-to-find varieties (just got some more red finger limes and more yuzu from them).

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Fantastic, I'll give those a try!

I've got a thomasville on its way right now. Where culd I get a changsha, ichang lemon, and benton?

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / WTB Prague Chimera / Dimicelli / Dragon Lime
« on: September 24, 2021, 01:47:44 AM »
I'm over in North Alabama (zone 7b) and trying to grow a little bit of an orchard out here with some microclimate and a bit of luck. Problem is, only a few varieties seem to be reliably hardy out here while also not tasting like poncirus. I've heard the three above are legitimately decent and have a chance of surviving my weather with some light protection. The only problem is, I've got no idea where to get them (I was able to snag baby prague graft from Stan, but he's fielding a ton of demand lately, so I'm wondering if there are any other sources out there?).

Thanks in advance!

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Ichang papeda seedlings for sale
« on: September 22, 2021, 04:57:08 PM »
oh man, if you still have these when winter is over we should chat :D

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The problem is that I grow a variety of tropical fruits plants that I have to bring inside in winter (pineapple, coffee, carambola) and they already take up the entire garage + some of the living room in winter. The wife hates it, and I'm going to be giving some away / downsizing the tropical side of things just to appease her. On the citrus side, I get the most enjoyment of my plants by being outside in my garden and such with them, and I'm hoping for something I can grow big and happy - not something I have to keep stuck in a pot.

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Thanks a ton, folks. I'm going to give it a try!

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Penn State lists Asimina as resistant (at the very leas) to Juglone:
https://extension.psu.edu/landscaping-and-gardening-around-walnuts-and-other-juglone-producing-plants

My own pawpaws seem to be happier the closer they are to the walnut tree line, but that may just be due to the extra shade at this stage of their growth.

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