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Hey all,

I need to trim two of my lesser known, but awesome, fruit bushes and thought I would offer cuttings up to the forum

The first is

Rosa roxburghii  “Cili” “Sweet Chestnut Rose”
Stout shrub 4–8′ tall. Thorned branches, long pinnate leaves. 2″+ pale pink to purple-pink flowers, sweetly scented. Unusual orange-yellow fruit blushing red, globose to 1.5″+ and covered in small prickles. Native to southwest China. The fruit can be eaten fresh with a mild pineaple-like flavor. Traditionally made into a jam and wine, the dried fruit is brewed into a sweet tea that is said to strengthen all faculties and enhance longevity. The leaves are used as a green tea substitute. The fruit is rich in minerals, vitamin C and E, beneficial polyphenols, polysaccharides and SOD. Studies have shown the fruit is a strong antioxidant with anticancer potential, cardiovascular benefits and cognitive enhancement. Easy to grow, sun to part shade, rich, moist soil. We offer seed grown plants from strains selected for their darker fruit color and medicinal value. Z6a

More cold tolerant than a lot of the species on here, pretty flowers, good fruit, and medicinal leaves

Green yearling cuttings wrapped in parafilm (at least 3 nodes) - $5
Hardwood cuttings wrapped in parafilm - $12

And second-

Lycium andersonii  “Desert Goji/Wolfberry”
Solanaceae. Densley branched thorned shrub to 3–6’+.  Semi-succulent leaves. Yellow/lavender tubular flowers followed by small round edible berries. Seed from Baja. Drought deciduous. Heat, drought and sun tolerant. A good choice for the arid edible landscape. The berries are rich in beneficial phytonutrients. Z8

This has been a 0 care plant for me and produces really high quality, but small, goji berries- the best I have tasted and are good for eating fresh

Hardwood cuttings wrapped in parafilm - $6

I also have a very small amount of Red Veined Indonesian Mitragyna speciosa and one fruiting Escalarte jaboticaba branch that prices can eb worked out over PM of anyone is interested

Shipping added at the end

I'll post some pics later


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WANTED: Inga seeds
« on: September 29, 2023, 10:33:56 AM »
Just curious as to why you want this one specifically?

there are more than 1000 species in the Inga genus so it is almost certainly impossible to ID based on this, although the 4 segment seed does appear to be pretty unique

Pretty much all the subrtropical stuff needs lots of heat. 

From this list its doubtful any of these would do well excpt maybe lemon guava.  Just being honest.

You are much better off growing things suited for your climate that other farmers are having good results with.

-'Dream' atemoya
-Lemon Guava
-Blue Passionfruit
-Date Palm
-'Ice Cream' Banana


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Plants for sale
« on: September 28, 2023, 02:03:50 PM »
Pouteria macrophylla

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Eugenias for sale
« on: September 27, 2023, 11:16:12 AM »
Amazing seller- Amazing plants- Amazing prices

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking to buy Paw Paw fruit!
« on: September 22, 2023, 06:04:43 PM »
Should be harvesting some this year from my tree in MI

send me a PM

this is the soap opera of this forum

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: trees that suffer injury below 45F / 7C?
« on: September 20, 2023, 11:11:27 AM »
Mamoncillo will be damaged-

seeds sourced from Jibril, FHC or any of our other central african seed suppliers are also of concern

i.e. Dennetia tripelata all died at 45F for me

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: High Stake Grafts
« on: September 16, 2023, 01:04:55 PM »
Put several of Bobooshkis jabo varieties on my fruiting escarlete this year

Tried to graft branches of fruiting Myrciaria guaqueia on a rootstock of the same and on M. glazoviana

a few variegated jabo grafts

Some yangs

That hirsuta looks like a beast

Received my cuttings today Kaz-

You are da man-

they are getting put in rootbuilder tree starter pots now


elouicious, I'm still a beginner when talking about figs. I have only tasted 10 or so different varieties even though I do have more than 70 different varieties in pots now.

I hope to start reducing the collection to under 10 varieties once I get to taste each of these varieties. I'm glad for people like Simon and others who have experience growing and tasting the varieties and sharing their summary of the best 5 or 10 varieties, that helps. I just want the fig to taste better than the Brown Turkey. Most of these top tier figs are definitely much better tasting.

I feel you on that-

I don't need 70 vars of figs, maybe 10-15 good ones

NissanVersa on here is currently trying to winnow a collection of ~50 down to 16 to plant so maybe I can get him to do a writeup

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: San Francisco fruit recommendations
« on: September 14, 2023, 05:38:16 PM »
Tons of Fuschia spp. too- the fruits are edible

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: San Francisco fruit recommendations
« on: September 14, 2023, 11:48:57 AM »
Species in SFBG

Austromyrtus dulcis
Drimys lanceolata
Luma apiculata
Syzygium smithii
Ugni molinae

at least a few more

Youre a legend Kaz

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Phoenix End of Summer Outdoor Jabo Report
« on: September 13, 2023, 06:56:51 PM »
A+ excellent report.

I lost most of my jabos this past July from misters being faulty. Would love to meet up sometime and check out your collection

one reason I am almost exclusively on drip rings for my potted plants now

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Phoenix End of Summer Outdoor Jabo Report
« on: September 13, 2023, 06:31:44 PM »
Nice write-up CeeJey!

Campo ramon did poorly in the heat here as well-

Escalarte seems to do well in the heat to add to your data

survived 18f-

got whacked back to the ground and was a maybe 3-4 year old bush

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Need a Few Members for New Fig Trial
« on: September 08, 2023, 08:02:30 PM »
Lets see if they can handle Texas

Keep in mind the region they "come from" is gigantic-

the areas they naturally inhabit may have something special about them (i.e. being on limestone) that is not immediately obvious to the eye

There looks like probably a few issues- and they are probably all stemming from an incorrect mix of soil/water (who knew these things werent native here? :))

The leaves would seem to indicate an imbalance of nutrients- here is a decent image for identification of nutrient deficiencies, but there are better ones

Nutrient deficiencies can make your plant weak and susceptible to bugs/bacteria/fungus which is what I would say the black spots are

I asked about the watering because city water is often high salt with things like chlorine that prevent the uptake of Iron, Magnesium and Manganese-

as you can see it is a multifactorial problem that will probably need some careful adjustments to sort out

what are your water parameters

great write-up K-rimes! very jealous

Ciao Giampaolo!

Are you growing any of these outdoors?

Where in italy are you located?

Would be interested in species that would survive Lazio-

Grazie mille!

Dabai is a very difficult fruit to harvest, you’re likely to get more male trees than females, takes years for them to fruit. it’s a long shot to making it work. No one in Hawaii, that I’m aware of has been successful getting it to fruit. It’s almost like recommending someone to grow willughbeia sarawakensis. I suggested before that you grow durian , it’s extremely nutritious , well-balanced in terms of fats/carbs, it’s one of the only fruits that I feel I can make a meal out of , by itself. Also once you get some trees to produce well you will likely have people travel to your place just to eat durian. Can’t say that will be true for really anything else and I’ve never heard someone travel for avocado , engkala or anything else mentioned in this thread so far

Durian as well! of course-

Sourcing seeds may be problematic but something like Safou or Dabai might be good-

Pouteria are also great fatty fruits and there are several native to peru

We have caimito, which does well here. However, I don't think it's well-suited to the area in question.
Could you please share the scientific names of Safou and Dabai?

When you say caimito you mean abiu? or Chrysophyllum cainito?

Safou - Dacryodes edulis
Dabai - Canarium schweinfurthii

what about other Pouteria like...
P. lucuma
P. hypoglauca
P. viridis
P. sapota
P. butyrocarpa
P. campechiana
P. torta
P. multiflora
P. macrophylla

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